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jmantle 12-31-2008 08:58 PM

Valve seat angles in stock
 
Just got my 2009 NHRA rule book, the cylinder head section in stock says stock angles plus or minus 1 degree. I had heard the "any valve grind permitted" was coming but the stock angle thing was a surprise. This should be interesting with some of the "approved" aftermarket heads where the angles don't match OEM.

JRyan 01-01-2009 12:43 AM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
jmantle,

This was covered in an earlier thread, around 12/11/08, entitled "2009 NHRA Rules". Dave described what NHRA meant, but you're living proof of what I said about "the average guy is thinking about valve jobs as valve jobs", not the valve angle/deck surface relationship NHRA is refering too. If that's what they mean, then that's what they should say. Thanks!

Read the thread and see what you think.

Jerry

stealy perf mach 01-01-2009 01:08 AM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
jerry
what they need to say is valve guide/stem angle in relation to deck surface or no valve guide relocation

jeff stealy

JRyan 01-01-2009 03:13 AM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
Jeff,

I agree! A new guy reading the rules for valve/seat angles in either Stock or Superstock would have no idea that they're refering to valve guide location or should I say re-location. I know!! I've asked several people to read those sections of the rules and NONE picked up on guide relocation.

Jerry

Bud Lefevre 01-01-2009 05:01 AM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
So , what is legal in stock ?

bill dedman 01-01-2009 10:48 PM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
Since when has that rule book been clear about ANYTHING? It is case study in obfuscation and self-contrdiction. I think they write it deliberately vague so they can interpret it according to the whim of the moment of the tech doing the decision-making.

I'm serious; it's a joke.... but, the joke's on the racers.

What a shame...

JRyan 01-01-2009 11:06 PM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
Bill,

You may be right. I don't know as it's NHRA's intention, but it can be made to work as they wish. So how do they know if a valve job is illegal. As Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart (thank Jared) said with regard to pornography, "I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it". NHRA takes the same view on valve jobs.

Really! Bud's question has been up most of the day. Does anyone have a descriptive answer for him?
I don't.

Jerry

Dave Turner 01-01-2009 11:31 PM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
Jim, you have a PM.

Mike Taylor 3601 01-06-2009 08:01 PM

Re: Valve seat angles in stock
 
Super stock rules in 09 book states it plainly,why doesn't stock rules say it same way if thats what they mean?
Mike Taylor 3601


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