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Dragsinger 10-12-2008 06:47 PM

Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
I am beginning construction of a 1990 Firebird in IHRA Crate Motor Stock. Looking at the bolt on suspension parts, I see that most torque arms use a "energy poly bushing" at the torque arm front. My question, since this is a dedicated drag race combination, why the poly bushing? Why not some type of rod end or solid bushing? Or, is the poly so hard deflection is not an issue? I have the same question about the lower control arms, why not solid bushings?

Thanks
Larry Woodfin - owner
Woodfin Automotive
Kilgore TX
903-985-1162 [cell]

SSDiv6 10-12-2008 07:18 PM

Re: Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragsinger (Post 86935)
I am beginning construction of a 1990 Firebird in IHRA Crate Motor Stock. Looking at the bolt on suspension parts, I see that most torque arms use a "energy poly bushing" at the torque arm front. My question, since this is a dedicated drag race combination, why the poly bushing? Why not some type of rod end or solid bushing? Or, is the poly so hard deflection is not an issue? I have the same question about the lower control arms, why not solid bushings?

Thanks
Larry Woodfin - owner
Woodfin Automotive
Kilgore TX
903-985-1162 [cell]

Under NHRA rules, you are not allowed to have heim joints, just bushed. I would assume that IHRA rules are the same.

Dragsinger 10-12-2008 07:27 PM

Re: Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
Could be the reason, however, the Cal-Trac bars have rod ends. What do you think of that?

Dragsinger 10-12-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
also, using the S & W torque arm as an example, it has ladder bar rod ends and ladder bars adjuster at the rear attaching points. Bushing only at the front pivot.

BRUCE PARSONS 10-12-2008 09:21 PM

Re: Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
You can have heims on the torque arm. You cannot have heims on the control arms.

Rory McNeil 10-13-2008 01:41 AM

Re: Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRUCE PARSONS (Post 86963)
You can have heims on the torque arm. You cannot have heims on the control arms.

According to my NHRA rulebook, a coil spring Stocker can not have lower control arms with Heim ends, or be adjustable, but the aftermarket uppers "may be adjustable and use Heim ends instead of bushings."

Joe Sprint Bros 10-13-2008 11:38 AM

Re: Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
Larry, most of these "catalogue" arms are marketed to street cars. Use large heim on foward location of arm, but it must be able to swivel front and rear. you can box the factory arms, use bearings for bushings. The critical piece is the preload device (Pete Z bars,etc) for side to side preload. Some guys also use sway bar. Use best shock you can afford with double adjustment. Joe

Joe Sprint Bros 10-13-2008 11:56 AM

Re: Camaro/Firebird Torque arm design notes
 
Larry, check PM


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