Tech West Racing Services MSD Upgrade
Tech West out of Huntersville NC claims they have a upgrade for MSD boxes. They list the cost between 65-90 dollars depending on what box they are doing it to. They claim that the engine will make more HP and TQ and even have a dyno graph showing the increases. Has anyone done this and does it really work. Seems to me that if the box and coil as msd makes it is fully igniting the cyl then modifing it to make a hotter/longer spark would not help. I am curious about what you guys think about this. Their website is Techwestracing.com Look under the tab labeled "Upgrades" for what I am writing about here.
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I'm pretty sure he is a member here now.
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His thread handle is: twrs 2006.
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We have used him and talked to him several times and he is an extremely nice and knowledgeable fella.
Try looking up Brisk spark plugs. Were getting ready to do a lil testing with them on our roundy round engines. |
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My first encounter with Pat was shortly after MSD quit working/ providing us V-6 racers with the modified odd fire box.
Listen to him, he has more than just the box improvement that has worked for me. It was not only with my own special odd fire V-6 box, but the box/system for a well known Comp racer I have helped. One of the "real" advantages was to get consistency of the tune-up from the dyno to the car. When you know you are getting 1250 HP on the dyno and 1100 from the car it is time to call Pat. Pat has also helped one of my customers that races boats. I've had the pleasure of talking to Pat for many hours and what he does is not "Black Magic". He applies sound principles of electronics and changes some of the components in the boxes that could have been originally installed as "cost savers". |
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Come on now Adger I just a box back and my dyno only picked up 2 tengths (.2). I really thought it should have been good for .4 so I talked to them again and he is going to make some more changes. Crap, I luv this stuff. Dont chu reed |
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Reed,
OH!, you just had one black box get .2 for you.... Then you need 2 boxes for .4.... Simple math!! :~) Seriously.. Yes I do like this. |
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Rob,
You have a PM |
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I did not read the structions. I went back and read them last nite after the 4th beer and it specifically says add one box for every .2 that you want. Duh. So now I gots to ask has any bidy gots any more boxes that I can get cause I want .8. I wonder if you have to stack em or put them side by side. Any help here reed |
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Tech West
I talked to a few guys about your upgrade this morning and they all seem to like it. I am going to try and get out one or two more times this year. As soon as I am done for the season my box will be on its way to you. Any info you could pass along about crossing over my plug numbers to fine wire would be appreciated. Rob |
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Tech West,
What if your using a 16volt system , I see all of your box checks are done with 12vdc can the box upgrade still be affective with a 16vdc system ? |
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Ever work with the ICE Ignition? PM me if you want too
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Tech West
What about the digital 7 boxes ? I have the 7530T. Last time I talked to you, you were not doing any upgrades to them. Is this because they are that good right out of the box and no improvements need to be made? thanks |
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Could you specify which (MSD) boxes benefit from your "upgrades"? I am running the #7520 box with the #8261 coil. |
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I checked your web site on the max 20 Volt regulator and my question is on the B+ that goes between the power source and the unit if you are using a MSD #8830 noise capacitor that is in the same circuit does it matter which side the Max 20 is on of the capacitor or is it compatible with the Max 20? thx |
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Pat. I understand there is a new upgrade for the 7AL3. Can you tell me more?
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can you do anything to Crane Hi-6 units?
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Does it matter what coil is being used w/ 7al2??
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I have went thru 2 8261 coils with 7AL3 box The 8201appears to be similar higher output is it more reliable? I have the 8251 in the car now and have never had an issue with it. when I went to the 8261 I saw nothing back to back runs. |
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Pat
I have a msd digital 6, and was wondering what coil you would suggest since msd says the 8251 is just for the 7 series and up boxs? i also have a 7al2 that i'm currious if a modified 7al2 and 8251 coil would provide better results the my digital 6? |
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Pat I have a MSD in the mail on the way to you. I look forward to trying it next year.
Robert |
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Tech West,
I have an older 1997 or 1998 model MSD 7AL-3. Can you checkout the box to confirm that there are no issues with it and perform any upgrades that occurred over the years? Also, do you recommend the 8201 or 8251 with the 7AL3 boxes? Thanks Manny |
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Pat I sent my 7AL2 to you to be updated. I am using the 8251 coil. Thx. Ed
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What is the best coil to use with a 6al box, optispark dist and crank trigger being used with it. How long to update a box?
Thanks Mark |
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Pat , at this years Dutch Classic at Maple Grove ,I helped two racers with MSD 7AL3 units diagnose problems.
Both units failed on the magnetic pickup input ,but still would function when tested on the points input. I've been told this is somewhat common on the 7AL3. Do you have any upgrades available to improve the reliability of the magnetic pickup input ? I'm concerned since I also have one in my car. Thanks , Tom |
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Pat,
My toy will be arriving late this week or early next week. Also, I sent you a PM to ask a couple questions. Do you prefer I use techwest@techwestracing.com to contact you? Thanks, Jeremy |
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I've been using the same MSD 8207 for at least 15 years. I've never had an issue. The last bracket race of this fall in October, I didnt have to change my dial for 6 rounds and went 3 rounds in a row within .004 with only about 10 minutes of downtime between each. I'm still interested in the upgrade, just curious, if it will be beneficial, or if it is just cheap insurance? Thank you, Clark Doukas |
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This is Cad's Dad. Is there an upgrade available for the 6AL? What are the sparkplug wires that you recommend? This is a 12 to 1, 383 SBC. What wire electrode sparkplug would you recommend.
Thanks, Duke |
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HI Paul
MSD 7al2 can you build timing retard inside box? Thanks Larry |
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How many volts input will a 6AL stand? I know your Maxpwer 20 is 20 volts. Will a 6AL stand 24 volts input?
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Pat:
We run HVC Blue Coil on MSD 6AL on a couple of our Low Compression Small Block Stockers.......would we be happier with one of you recommended Coils? They sure are less money on initial purchase. Thanks, John Irving |
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I had a customer to ask me a question, yesterday and I had no good answer. He asked which is better of the 6AL MSD units., a reworked analog(Tech West unit) or the new electronic digital MSD 6AL.
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I have had both types on my dyno with a scope hooked to both and everything I could look at here said that the analog box was better also, but my equipment to check is limited and I did not want to give a false answer. Thanks for the reassurance reed. |
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I tried staying out of trouble one time, and it wus no fun at all reed |
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Hey Pat I just wanted to let you know I shipped my msd 7al2 and according to the tracking it was left at the front door. If you can just confirm that you have recieved it. You can reach me on my cell 732 966 7731
Thanks Anthony Fetch |
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Hi Pat
I have stumbled on a Tech release Addendum quoting that the PN 7530T ( among others) will " shut Down unexpectantly" if a resister is not added to the "power on" line while using 16 volt battery's if the hand held PN 7550 Monitor is left hooked up..It states that if your unit has R1 or R2 stamped on the end panel,updates are already installed and this resister is not needed. Mine is stamped R4. I'm taking it that this is revision 4, and the other ones noted were revision 1 and 2...But wanted to verify. Thanks for you time and info, Jeff |
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Pat, wondering if you could give me a hand with an ignition noise related issue?
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