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Gale Forse 12-14-2007 10:32 PM

Dommination of FI cars.
 
With the ability of tuning FI cars to go as fast as you want with A key board. How much affect will this have on future car counts when traditional cars can not compete any more.

Speedracer 12-14-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
Very soon, I believe you will see another new rule that Fuel Injection is allowed on traditional cars that came with a carburetor.That will put that theory of yours to a rest.There is nothing STOCK about Super Stock or Stock anymore.I still think a Nitrous carbureted car can outrun a traditional fuel injected car though.


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Upon reading the new 2008 rulebook,I'm not so sure that you have to run a carburetor in Super Stock.It looks like the CARBURETOR section is missing.Its still there for Stock,but it just might now be legal to run FUEL INJECTION instead of a carburetor.If its not legal now,I'm sure it will be soon.Even the Pro Stock section says CARBURETOR under the engine section,but not SUPER STOCK.

Jeff Lee 12-15-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
Stock rules take precedence over SS rules unless specified as an allowable difference.

Speedracer 12-15-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
Didn't some guy run a 400 block instead of a 440 and that was okay?

How about a 1968 Fuel Injected Pop-Up Piston 440 Dodge?
I bet that would be a killer combo!

Bruce Witherspoon 12-15-2007 07:40 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gale Forse (Post 50646)
With the ability of tuning FI cars to go as fast as you want with A key board. How much affect will this have on future car counts when traditional cars can not compete any more.

Gale, Can I pose a question to you? Help me understand how you achieve all of this extra horsepower from A key stroke. I've been working on that one for awhile and I just can't seem to grasp it?
If it was as simple as you say, don't you thinks that everyone who had an injected vehicle would be fast? It appears that from all of the qualifying sheets that I have seen that that isn't the case.

Rich Biebel 12-15-2007 09:06 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
I put together an LT-1 fuel injected Firebird and raced it for a little over a year. I built the engine myself with all very good parts. I never took the car or engine to a dyno session and tuned it myself on the racetrack learnig as I went along. I made some good runs but far from what the better cars can run. I ran a best of -.75 with the car 200lbs heavy for the class. Anyone who thinks a F.I. car is easy or will dominate is mistaken. Yes they are fast when they are working well but no faster or more consistant or predictable than some of the cars they will be lining up with in 2008. I sold my car in favor of something more "user friendly". Hopefully the new owner will do well with it and his first stop planned was a chassis dyno session with friends who are much more savy than me on the tuning of one of these cars.

james schaechter 12-15-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
I would rather race than argue about what will be on this matter, but Bruce I think Gale Forse is the only "key Stroke" on this thread.

Dave Ribeiro 12-15-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
Gale and Jim,

You are both right and FI will domminate as they want, until NHRA properly factors those motors..I think by mid-year racers will see just how much faster they really are over carbs...
Bruce, you are right they are not easy..But do have a big advantage over carbs... Anyway, time will tell and its not just the Chevies,but the 302 ci fords are a Hot little piece..... The bottom line is they will Domminate as they please, all the class they are in........2008 will be a very interesting year.. I think it won't be long before its sticks/auto's together, we will see in 2009..
I do think it will make for some good heads-up and class racing for a little while...
" Happy Holidays" Dave...1033/stock

Gary Smith 12-15-2007 10:17 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gale Forse (Post 50646)
With the ability of tuning FI cars to go as fast as you want with A key board. How much affect will this have on future car counts when traditional cars can not compete any more.

The last I checked, keystrokes replaced jetting, powervavles, squirters, diaphrams, and other legal carburetor changes in FI. You can dump as little or as much fuel into a 55mm hole, just as long as the hole isn't smaller or bigger than 55mm (or whatever came on the engine). If I recall, I thought carb cars can use an O2 sensor system which pretty much makes the tuning game even. But if there's a "keystroke combo" that increases horsepower, please pass it on!!!

Speedracer 12-15-2007 11:17 AM

Re: Dommination of FI cars.
 
Come to think of it,I sure have seen a lot of carburetors for sale lately.Some might want to consider a three speed powerglide trans.


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