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Why the difficulty with multiple drivers in Las Vegas?

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Your 2013 stock elimantor world champ is a ***!ing joke. Congrats on buying your championship. Way to earn it Justin. What the total rounds purchesed 5 or 6 it's been hard to keep up with ***** clowns like you.

Drew skillman is the real world champ, never purchased any rounds and drove his ***** off all year. Congrats Drew on a great year. It's to bad one worthless racer cheats the whole system.

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Could not have stated it any better.

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chuck calls it as many saw it....

captain

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I've known Drew and his family since Drew was pooping his diaper. I hate to see this go down this way. The Skillman's are a class act and I know Drew prefers to beat people straight up. Charley, you hit the nail on the head. Thanks for the passionate post.
Rusty

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Dang. better watch out slamming people and making accusations......they are banning people around here.

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I don't think Charlie Bob cares who wants to ban him...

All I gotta say is I wish Charlie was here to see it all go down...Now that would have made a good video!

:)

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Pretty sad if this is the truth. I guess more people care about money than personal pride? What is the going rate for an intensional red light to help somebody win a championship? Can't be cheap. Shame if this is all true.

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I guess I'm really out of touch. Do people really do that?

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Doug Lambeck
Ted Romero
Larry Gilley

Who were the others?

These clowns are just as guilty and should be brought to light as well. What a f'in joke!!

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Chuck D couldn't have said it any better. Hope that hollow championship feels good. Congrats to the racers who EARNED all of their round wins this year

Drew Whalen

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Charlie Bob and I have had our differences in the past but I think he is right on with this one:eek:. Nobody gunna ban him for this! Jim


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everybody should have a carburetor!!!

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First time anyone has pushed through the brakes on a heads up? weird? push through a two step, that never happens either, oh wait im sure he paid Austin to turn it just a touch red too...

Maybe next year charlie...in the mean time keep bashing... im sure we will have a toast dedicated to you at the banquet...thanks for the laughs

Herem

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and, Doug Lambeck can come...Too!!!!

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so here is my question. if in fact deals were made to lay down, is that any different than "team cars" laying down for each other?

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I was actually trying to be -.009 but missed it by just a touch. Damn it!

Austin Williams
464Q

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So do you or any of the other haters in this thread have proof that people were paid to loose as has been suggested? Looking at the results I see where one guy was -.006 against him.....I doubt that was intentional. Next round was heads up. Based off qualifying results, it looked like Justin was .2 quicker than his opponent so maybe he paid him off but It looks like he would have won that race. The last one who knows. I will give you that but if you are going to accuse someone of paying people to hand him the win in public you should have some facts to bring to the table. If not you are no better than the guy you are accusing IMO. If you were there and had the proof you should have brought it to NHRA's attention and let them handle it.

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Herem I would expect nothing less out of some round buying west coast boys hiding behind some bogas name.
I just want to know if V made Justin pay for his rounds out of hid own pocket or if round buying is bulit into the budget for 2013 race season.
That is a nice YouTube video randy. You guys can toast to me all you want. But the facts don't lie.
How about the final round at the last pts race he ran. That race was a 22 point swing. Where Doug failed to stage vs him

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Round buying? im still laughing. where are the facts genius? have you seen a check or cash handed over? id love to see your PROOF? lets see the facts!

But as of the 2013 budget it appears its now 10k larger... oh wait, they all rolled over for him in Super Stock today too... so that makes it 14-15k larger!!! plus a ring we can trade to someone for a real important round next season!!!

Where is the bogus name? I clearly posted my name, google it if youd like!

Jealousy is an ugly thing!!

Cheers,

Ryan Herem

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Charlie Downing
Charles Downing
I never made the connection there mister obvious.
Lol just reminded me of the Bob and Tom Show....

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where is Sterling Potts when ya need him ?????

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Wow !!!
Busy weekend on Classracer.
Can't wait for next weekend.
I need more popcorn.

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Alan Reinhart was like are you kidding me!!

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When I was having 2 step problems I wish someone would have paid me.
I might be rich by now. LOL

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Ryan no one is saying Justin is not a talented racer. But you can't tell me he did not buy3 rounds at his last two pts races.
Why would I be jealous of someone who has to buy a championship? And besides Drew passed me a long time ago for both the world and div 3 title. He is the one that got boned in the deal.
Anyone that can read drag race central can see the 3 rounds he purchased. Congrats Justin on your 2013 stock eliminator championship**. The sad part is he had a good chance to beat all the racers he paid off or made deals with.

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I was on the starting line observing the race in person.
I know both the racers and have raced them both several
times and run the same class as they do.

I watched both of them prepare their cars for a Heads Up
race and push them to starting line. I saw the tension and
effort they had made to win the race in their demeanor and that
of their crew. Unless they are the best actors I have seen in my
Fifty years of drag racing............The race was the real deal!

Justin's car was probably a good .1 to .2 faster consistantly
and in qualifing. Vegas is Home track to both of us......I watch his
car in testing all the time and know it's performance capability.

By the sound of Gilleys car when he put it on the
two step.............He had raised his chip up a significant amount......
I would do the same thing and pull out all the stops on a Heads Up
especially if I knew I was the underdog and indeed we HAD done the
same thing and gambled by raising the chip to the limit and gambling
that it would work with very little to lose being on the short side
of a heads up second round in Super Stock today.

Larry Gilley won the very First National Race he ever entered in Stock
and won the fourth National he entered right here in Vegas a couple of years ago!

He came to Vegas to race and win again.
What I know of his intergrity and his conduct as a person,
I do NOT believe he was Bought Out PERIOD END!!!!!!

I have carefully read each and every post on this Thread and I have not
seen a shread of concrete evidence put forth!!!!!
I do not have a dog in this fight, I have been beaten and have beat
both of these men as like most anyone who races in Division 7 for a
few years.

Again..........I was there and closely watching the race with great interest
and curiosity as they were in my class and often my competitor.........
How many of you gentleman were there by the starting line watching with me?

John Irving
Irving Family Racing

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I would like to speak of the character and integrity of Justin, and the other three guys accused in these accusations and you can be the judge for yourself. I don't know Ted Romero or Larry Gilley very well but I can say this. Ted is a state of Colorado corrections officer, I have raced him several times and pitted next to him once, him and his father were complete gentlemen and truly love to racing as a family. Larry Gilley is one of the most fierce competitors out of the San Francisco bay area, he is very well respected by the whole West Coast Mopar Gang and from what I have gathered over the last few years a real class act. Doug Lambeck two time US Nationals Champion, has Multiply National event wins and division championships, comes from a family that has deep roots in NHRA with his father Bob former Pro Stock racer and engine builder to many people on the west coast. These three guys are all "Good Guys" these are guys all of you would be proud to call your friends.

Now lets talk about Justin and his father Chris Lamb, in all fairness I will say I am friends with Justin so yeah I have a dog in the fight. Here is a short story that speaks to the type of people Justin and Chris are. Last year about this time I was getting my stuff ready to go to the races in Vegas at the end of the year when Justin called asking me if I was going to be at the SportsNationals, I told him I had to go back east the weekend for work, he asked if he could drive my camaro "Yes the one he just won the World with" I said sure if you can get it there, I'm not coming down till the next week. He had a mutual friend bring it down in a three car stacker. On the way down the car came unstrapped and beat the hell out of the right 1/4 panel. With out me asking or saying a word Chris had the car taken to a local painter and fixed in 5 days to I didn't have to race is wrecked. Two weeks later at this same race last year I had gone back home and Justin raced the car again and in a 3rd round heads up it blew up. Justin and Chris called me and told me they wanted to fix it or they would buy the car for a price like the engine was still in tact. These two are classy people.

Charley Downing you are and extremely poor looser! Your accusations are just that accusations, with no proof or evidence. We are all less intelligent after reading them. I take nothing away from Drew Skillman, he is a hell of a racer, but this was Justins year. So next Monday Nov 11th, as we all sit around a big table at the National Championship banquet about 7pm pacific time and your ears start burning, yeah its us toasting you! Now put your computer down go out in the shop and start working on your ****, the 2014 season is less than 100 days away.

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Tommy these are great stories but lets get back to the facts of what happen over the last two pts races. You really want me to believe Doug lambeck did not lay down in the final a few weeks ago. He rolled the beams and never staged. And I guess it was just luck that Justin's last two opponents rolled the beams went -500 red which gave him a bye for the world title. Iam seeing a pattern here. No one is that lucky unless they make there own luck.

Anyone that can read drag race central can figured this out.

Justin did not beat me for the world title so I don't know how I would be a poor looser in this deal. I just stated what everyone that races divisions 1,2,3,4,5,6 viewed today.

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Charles, what you are failing to recognize is you are calling into question the integrity and morals of three other men! You also have failed to grasp the reality you are the only one beating this dead horse of falsehoods. You are not the voice of the masses you are but the freak on the street corner saying the world is ending, it does make us all stop and look but it does not make it fact. Lastly you are incorrect again Justin beat you, me and the 1000 or so other people that ran stock for a world title this year.

Now don't forget, Nov 11th 10pm your time, when your ears start burning....... It's just us toasting you!

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Yea tommy that's why there are only three of you defending Justin on here. 25 plus people called me today saying this is total bs. Yea iam the crazy one. You guys have fun at the banquet, you guys earned it.

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Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
776 Doug Lambeck 7474 Justin Lamb
E6 No Time ****WINNER**** 0.025 17.907 60.00
A/SA Dial: 10.00 (+/-): 89.999 D/SA Dial: 11.49 (+/-): 6.417
Prior rounds:
E5 0.037 10.686 0.686 (M Brand ) 0.000 11.490 0.000
E4 (J Percy ) 0.075 10.874 0.164 (S Burton ) 0.058 11.472 0.002
E3 (J Cooper ) 0.042 10.677 -0.823 (G Stein ) 0.055 11.162 -0.908
E2 (E Snow ) 0.032 10.700 0.030 (J Hughes ) 0.033 11.491 0.061
E1 (S Hagberg ) 0.043 10.648 -0.852 (N Bosworth-S) 0.045 12.226 0.796
Qualified: #4 10.586 -0.914 #18 11.385 -0.685

2:49 p.m. Weather conditions: air temperature 76 degrees, relative humidity 22 percent, barometer 25.63 inches, adjusted altitude 6,687 feet, track temperature 81 degrees.
Well, that was very weird! Neither car made a burnout and just pulled directly up to the starting line and staged. As soon as they staged, Lambeck drove slowly away. Lamb took the green and drove down the track right behind Lambeck. You decide what this was all about!!

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Has anyone on this site really been offered money to take a dive?

I must admit I have been approached to do this one time in my life but under very different circumstances. Wichita International Raceway, my local track, was having a "Pro Street/Pro Mod" show with Tony Christian and some other celebrity headliners called in for promotional value. Just my luck I had Tony first round so hopefully someone would get a good starting line photo as I knew that was all I would have to show for my day. Apparently the hand of Jesus push down on the rear of my car and it hooked on that slippery old track like never before and guess what, Tony lost! (plus he redlighted).
That was the end of my luck however because during the run I smoked 4th gear out of the Lenco and was done for the day after all. Being a good sport I was heading up to approach the tower to let them know I was broke, so they could put Tony back in under the break rule if they wanted, when the track operator intercepted me and offered me a couple grand if I let them run Tony in my place next round. He obviously didn't get the report from my pit area. HUMMMM? What to do?

I will admit I felt dirty afterwords.

Tracy

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Gary Parker posted about no burnouts,was that in comments of DRC coverage?
Was there no burnouts on Lamb vs. Lambeck ?
If that is true then I just became convinced something is not right.
Mike Taylor 3601

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Here's the thread Gary's post is all about...I like Larry's asterisk thread too!

http://www.classracer.com/classforum...ferrerid=16593

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This is starting to remind me of NASCAR.

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The loudest sound heard November 11, 2013 7:00 PST will not be the toast to Charley or the splash from the dive. The loudest sound that night and forevermore will be the sound of a hollow championship.