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Project was set back because I have to work for a living but now that I have some free time this winter, time to rock and roll. I would like to be at the div 2 event in Atlanta in april

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Nice new sheetmetal

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headers and this just aint getting along

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I saw these on a stocker years ago so they must be legal, I am sure somebody will help me out

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Cool Build! Thanks for sharing!

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Looks good, Bill, nothing better than a Mustang with a stick !

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Haven't seen those valve covers for years, have wondered the same. Nice looking headers but how well do they mate to a 4bbl 351c head ? Got your work cut out for your if you're planning on April. Good luck. Glad another Ford is getting built. :D

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I have to change the flange, or build another set, they bolt on but the port mismatch is a lot

I don't think I will be using the covers either as I have changed and corrected the valvetrain geometry and my heads use a different pivot length rocker

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sheetmetel just goes for a ride.......how about the nuts and bolts of what makes the power

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I am running the Pac 1427 BBC spring/ret/lock package

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looking good,Bill
Mike Taylor 3601

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The rest of the sheetmetal parts are down here....

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I was going to rebuild the factory headlight assemblies..but being 45 years old and they looked like they were 145 years old, I got these instead.

These things are really nice even if they are offshore clones

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and they will bolt on to this....

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If it wasn't a cleveland I wouldn't be using these, but it does make for a nice way to restrict the oil, should have posted them a few pics back with the rest of the cam gear

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Looks nice. What's your source for sheet metal? I used mostly Dynacorn stuff from CJPony Parts to rebuild my 68 coupe. Floor pans, radiator support, a fender and such. Pretty descent stuff for Korean stamping.

I don't have access to a rule book on this computer but I think you are allowed to cut that cross member for header clearance.

Dale

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Dynacorn, and I am happy with the parts. I noticed they just came out with a strut rod crossmember, for the 71-73 .......now I can start putting the front end back together.

I am tig welding all the panels back in also, but its a slow process in between bending tubing for the roll cage and pouring concrete for a living

Headers where designed for the engine to sit lower.....but rules state I cant do that, raise the engine to stock location they hit the floor, lower the engine hits the crossmember..no problem, I have a plan

wish I could use a dif intake manifold though, I have the best set of heads on the planet (nobody has anything close) with the worst manifold bolted to them

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With that statement, I just have to ask. Why are they so much better ?

Can those cam beearings be used with an iron cam ? Comp told me 400lbs open was about it for an iron cam but those 1427's are 500 @ .600" so a tick less with the Boss cam. :eek::eek::eek:

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You will just have to believe me;)

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The exhaust crossover, lead is too much of a hassle, tin leaks....aluminum plate works much better and don't have to worry about anything falling out or finding its way into the exhaust bowl. and I am able to swap manifolds without screwing around with it.


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pushrod clearance....they start out as little round holes

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My bender wont bend this piece, I had to buy one....083 4130

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I need to get some clarifications on the roll cage, I got an approval for a 25.5C spec floor construction ect, but I would like to "attach" the rest of the cage to the a pillar, b pillar, door post ect....but then it makes a hard time with the plastic trim going back in. (that the rules state you got to have)

Just putting tubing inside a shell is one thing but there is still a lot of heavy unibody structure surrounding it going for the ride, just seems better to be all "one piece" since this is not a car with a plastic or carbon body around it

the firewall, front drops to the front frame structure that is new for 2016 I completely agree with

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Are you adding the now allowed tubular front frame extensions? When I saw the revised rules I took a look at the currently empty engine bay of my 68 coupe and just scratched my head. Like, where am I going to route this and retain my stock shock towers? I don't need the stiffness at this point, but since the bay is empty it makes visualization easier.

Dale

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Yes i am going to install the drops, in the past we ran them inside the fenderwell at the top of the fender and back down to the frame horn. It makes for a nice and clean strong install and the are not in the engine compartment .

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Thanks. That's the area that caught my eye. Are the fenders still removable?

Dale

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Ummmmmm, that's an aluminum head in the pics you posted. You running SS ?

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I think this is what it may look like it was posted on another sight as stock Dave.

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That looks nice, thanks Sooner.

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I think wer'e looking at a BOSS 351 '71 Mustang. Those might be Edelbrock heads part number 61607. They are listed as legal for both Stock and SS. They ship as bare heads and the buyer has to have all the machining done. That seems to be the case here.

Dale

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The heads in the picture are ford DOEA-N heads not edelbrock the casting number is on the head plus it has a Cleveland combustion chamber the edelbrock doesn't .

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correct, that's exactly what they are... cast iron and for the others that are dying to know...they are well within the rules, they hold the proper volumes...no grinding, porting, acid, bead blasting, epoxy or any of that other cheating BS... they have 16 seats installed and a proper valve job on good ole ford cast iron.

I been working this style head over for 40 years...this is the best set ever

Edit...I posted last year in one of the threads where I got beat up that it is easy to get these to go 325+ at .500 with the right "stuff"....you all can do the math but this set blows those away....since the cats out of the bag, I mine as well turn this into an educational thread...stay tuned..LOL

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yes, I will try to find a pic to show you what we did on the past on the faster cars, but now that it is legal for stock....its all good

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For anyone really interested in seeing what a good job Bill has done on these heads, here is a link to specs on MustangTek with rusty photos.

http://mustangtek.com/heads/D0AE-N.html

EDIT: Re your edit: I don't think anyone on this particular thread has anything other than positive interest in your build. We (at least me) are curious because we all like good stuff.

Dale

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Its all good Dale...stay tuned

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Not quite. The 61607 isn't legal for stock on the Boss. It is on the 240hp (what I'm running) the 280hp & the 285hp. The 71 Boss is rated @ 355hp with the iron head. In SS the iron head is @ 330 and the Edelbrock is @ 340.

In this thread there is an Aluminum head pictured (with the recess around the crossover) and those real nice looking D0AE-N's.

And yes, I'm nothing but supportive of seeing another 71 Boss hit the track. If I had more resources, I'd have the 71 285hp in my Cougar which the Boss wasn't available in.

Looking forward to more post's on this build.

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Dave, that pic I posted with the recess around the crossover is my cast iron DOAE_N heads..... this should clear things up.....the 61607 eddy head does not have a crossover


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Whoops, sorry about that, :o:o:o. With the shiny from that fresh mill cut across that face, I mistook it for aluminum. My bad.

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I am waiting for the strut rod crossmember to show up,so I can start putting the front end back together but.... before I open the next can of worms.....I have seen these on plenty of cars but I can't find the word roller bearing in the rule book under front suspension anywhere:eek::eek::eek:...maybe somebody with better reading skills can help me out
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The opentracker roller upper and lower control arms are legal, as is the roller spring perch. I had the whole mess on my '71, including the double-roller spring perches (expensive) and you will be absolutely astonished at how freely the front end moves. The alignment guy loved it too. Don't forget to notch the upper frame rail where the upper arm hits to get a bit more suspension travel on launch. You will need to lower the upper shock mount at the same time to keep the shocks from bottoming out. It will be easier to find shocks if you use the earlier "T" upper mount instead of the single stud version that came on the '71. Get the best double adjustable shocks you can. I used the Calvert shocks and they are awesome for launch, but are way under-damped when landing after a wheelstand and the car bounces way too much. What is NOT legal are modified strut rods, like the Calvert with the spherical bearing. They are OK in SS but not in stock. The stock strut rods work just fine. Poly bushings make it stiffer but perhaps a little more stable on the top end. I would just use new rubber bushings if it were me.