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Mike Savelle 09-03-2019 08:17 AM

sb Chev. starter noise
 
what is the correct clearance , this is a racing starter that sounds noise loud when cranking, went to start it last nite and had to turn motor a bit by hand , has a good sfi flex plate and we have had three starters on it . Whats going on ?

Alan Nyhus 09-03-2019 09:37 AM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
You need to check the clearance between the drive gear and the flex plate teeth. Many of the starters that use aluminum mounting blocks are all over the place for clearance. In general, from .020 to .035 is where you want to be. If you can insert a paper clip, you'll be in the ball park.

Here's how I do it, for what it's worth.

https://i.imgur.com/EfIm3Oeh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eQmnFsth.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/TqORtrth.jpg?1

Paul Merolla 09-03-2019 11:51 AM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
Also, don't count out the possibility that the starter gear could be too far away from the ring gear. I ran into that on my street car - for years, it sounded like a cat got its tail stuck in there, but no amount of shimming would cure it. I finally got fed up and took a good hard look...only the ends of the teeth were meshing. Ended up filing down the aluminum on the starter. Sounds great now.

Mike Pearson 09-03-2019 02:11 PM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
I haven't seen any of the aftermarket mini starters that didn't want two shims installed for them to work properly. I have had Tilton, CSR and one no name mini starter and they all needed 2 shims. Many different blocks and flex plates as well.

Mike Savelle 09-03-2019 05:29 PM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
thank you so much for the info , will check and correct .. Mike

FED 387 09-03-2019 10:02 PM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
Also make sure you don't have the starter "cocked" in there a just little bit crooked---the 2 bolt holes they machine in the starter generally are not done the most accurate way possible either--the old paperclip deal is usually pretty close to where you want to be anyway---also ALWAYS have a spare starter and or starter drive---these things crap out on you at the worst imaginable times and you can change a starter out in a few minutes if need be--FED
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SSGN 09-04-2019 06:01 AM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 596506)
Also, don't count out the possibility that the starter gear could be too far away from the ring gear. I ran into that on my street car - for years, it sounded like a cat got its tail stuck in there, but no amount of shimming would cure it. I finally got fed up and took a good hard look...only the ends of the teeth were meshing. Ended up filing down the aluminum on the starter. Sounds great now.

Paul, most of the better made racing starters had a washer/shim between the alum block and the starter motor. If you removed it then this would be rectified. I had a cheaper one and had to machine the alum mounting block also. This was for my Buick so I thought it was just a Buick thing. lol

SSGN 09-04-2019 06:03 AM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Savelle (Post 596545)
thank you so much for the info , will check and correct .. Mike

I thought you quit racing and retired. lol

Mike Savelle 09-04-2019 07:48 AM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
Ha Ha you forget I have a son that got the disease from me , sold my cars and he bought back one of them, now we are in a 50/50 deal going to the races looking like the Clampetts. .Mike

Michael Compton 09-04-2019 11:37 AM

Re: sb Chev. starter noise
 
We had an issue where the mounting holes for the starter on the block were not straight. Took forever to figure out why it would start one time and do nothing the next. Luckily, GPE Starters fixed it for me once I sent them the difference between the bolt holes. Might be worth a call to Jared and see if he can help. He is a racer in Stock and SS also.


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