Moby Vic!!!!
 

Coming next season to a dragstrip near Div.1! The great, white whale of a car will be crushing concrete starting lines and causing fear in the shut-down area as it attempts to go rounds and crush the competition! 75 FFFFord LTD, 460/300 and P/SA at a VERY whale like 4970!

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And it's got four door go Vic.

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Bill, it's time to cut the grass.

Ed

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Looks kinda like my 74 2 door, only nicer.......... I found one of the elusive T-Quad intakes. :rolleyes: What headers for the whale ?

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My Dad had a 69, a 72, a 75 and 78 LTD,s. I know the last two had 400M motors. Can't remember what the 69 or the 72 had. They let me drive the 72 to the prom. Back then didn't think of these beasts as potential race cars. Back then we laughed at the Mustang II's as well. Now I own one of those!

With the 460, even with the weight, this thing ought to make some torque. I have an 89 Buick Estate 9 passenger wagon with a 307 Olds carb motor, that I acquired thru a trade. It's not in the guide. Told the wife if it isn't gone by next spring. I'm gonna give it an oil and tranny oil and filter change and haul it to the local track.

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BNRC..Billy Nees Race Cars

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Bill, way cool with the name, good job. :)

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Billy your having a really hard time sayin the "F" word. Lol

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Nah, you work with FFFords for a bit, the "F" word will flow quite naturally. To quote Mark, "make sure" you have the proper Ford tool handy.

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This is, by far, the most exciting build on the entire page. Back in the day, we ran a 460 powered mid 70 s Lincoln Town Car at Palmdale where are typical da was between 5000 and 6000 feet. With a 430 gear and 26 inch Caldwell's, the car ran 14.50 s all day long. Sounds like a very cool bracket car..........I mean stocker.

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I agree, best thread on here!
Show us more Billy!

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Billy,
Making any progress on Moby Vic? Are you sure those heads are legal?

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Bob, Bob, Bob, didn't your Daddy teach you better?
You never ask a lady what her age or weight is and you NEVER ask a Stock Eliminator Racer if his heads are legal!

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Billy,
How about an update. I know that the thread on the Pontiac was time consuming and a pain in the arse but inquiring minds wanna know. I think this is a way cool combo and I know a lot of guys are interested in the build. Thanks in advance.

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Billy,
You could roll a tennis ball through those intake ports.

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and I wish that I could make them smaller!

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Probably will have to lift @ the 1000' so you don't get HP from NHRA

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What for? Put some valve springs on it and buzz it up! They make 6.50 gears for a 9" don't they? What is life without a little adventure?

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I just gave away 5.86, 6.00, and 6.20 9" gear sets for free. It will be interesting to see how fast it can run. Assuming 460hp (1 per ci) and 5000 lbs it should go 12's :)

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:d :eek: :D

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7500 RPM ? Not with the stock rods. With Eagle or better rods, yeah. And GOOD springs. And Balance. Oil system is the same as a cleveland so it's not gonna wanna go that high, and, and....................................

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. . . . and 1 hp/cu in out of that whale is a lot of blubber!!!


Hey, Vic! Why don't you do something really wild? . . like the 400M for Q/SA at a svelte 4590 lbs?

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Same carb(1.21)/valves(2.06)/intake and lift is like .406 to .428 compared to the 351M so I think it'd be better.

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There ya go...351M, as a Landau..U/SA!

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351 blueprints under 9:1 compression; 400 is 9.7. 50 more cubic inches.

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OK. Both the 351M & 400M use the same size 2bbl (1.686/1.21 ) the same heads with the same valves. The 351 has a little over 8 1/2:1 compression & the 400M a little under 9 1/4:1. Yeah the cams are different but with what cam grinders can do these days, I think that's pretty much a wash. (probably wrong).

The 75 & 74 460"s The valves, cams are the same the compression's are similar But as Billy reminded us:

& It seems Mr.Graham does pretty well with the combo in Super Stock

[IMG] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLUtJrUsxG4 [/IMG]

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351vs400 I just figure with the same top end the smaller cubes it's got to be fed better. Same as a 302 is ok but the 351W is a pig cause it uses the same head/valves.

50 cubes in that case is a detriment not a bonus.
A point in compression is obviously nothing to sneeze at either, but there are more factors in the 351's favour than the 400's.

The 460 is just cool regardless:)

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piston in block

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anyone notice the wing on that gt/fa car....I'm no ford expert but? also I have a
1979 ranchero..wonder how that would hook up with a 460...

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Pic? Link?

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The link is in post #26. It's on a GT/FA Mustang.

Dale

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Ford built 300 2000 Cobra R Mustangs. They will all a red type color with the wing.
Roland

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Okay I see it now.I DID go through the thread once!
I knew who you were talking about anyway.
Yes, 2000 Cobra R...Mike built the car himself.

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cool, thanks, didn't know that....that's why I read all these... learning all the time

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All right Billy, time for an update...PLEASE! :)

What's going on with the whale? C'mon, you know you want to run a ffffford! LOL!

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Curious about how this build is going myself. Also wondering, on the SS Mustang in the earlier video, how can he claim it as a 2000 Cobra R, but not have the correct front bumper?

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i got piston in block waiting on billy for cam
i do not know about new mustang
i would like to get car done before i die, it will be a bitch atferwards

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Thanks Vic, love to see how this whale runs. I know 460's have been underrated (maybe dismissed is a better term) love to see how it can run when given a fair shake.

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The Cobra R front splitter is attached with zus fasteners. I choose not to run it because of all of the flack I get about the wing. The splitter would get 10 times the attention. The rules say you don't have to run both spoilers. I may put it on just to hear the complaints that it gets

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Ok, lol. I just always thought that you had to run the correct body parts for the body claimed. Learn something new every day. Car is nice though.