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Dave Muller 12-30-2019 12:11 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
Thanks, Greg, glad I'll get to see you at Pomona.

I was using a stud but the issue seemed to be that the clamp was pushing more sideways on the edge of the distributor than pushing down on it like it should. The clamp I have now doesn't touch the edge, it only presses down. Seems to work fine. That was a very frustrating problem. I thought I had the clamp on tight enough for round two at the Wild Horse divisional. The timing was 38 degrees before the run, but it was 32 degrees after and I ran something like .06 over my dial. And lost.

Bob Gullett 12-30-2019 12:34 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
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Originally Posted by Dave Muller (Post 604967)
Thanks, Greg, glad I'll get to see you at Pomona.

I was using a stud but the issue seemed to be that the clamp was pushing more sideways on the edge of the distributor than pushing down on it like it should. The clamp I have now doesn't touch the edge, it only presses down. Seems to work fine. That was a very frustrating problem. I thought I had the clamp on tight enough for round two at the Wild Horse divisional. The timing was 38 degrees before the run, but it was 32 degrees after and I ran something like .06 over my dial. And lost.

I had my dist move on me a few years ago. Had a fancy billet aluminum hold down clamp. Changed it to a OEM steel one with a stud and now more movement.

Dave Muller 12-31-2019 12:07 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
Oh, I forgot about one more addition I made to the car recently.

I added an air/fuel ratio gauge. I picked up a single-gauge panel at a swap meet and added a piece of aluminum which I expoxied to the top of the dashboard.

https://i.imgur.com/01d8WfL.jpg

Then I welded a bung to one of the header collectors. One of my usual ugly welding jobs.

https://i.imgur.com/f5U9f4b.jpg

I ran out of room on my electrical panel so I made a small one to add to the side which holds the controller for the gauge.

https://i.imgur.com/lPs8YD6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/z2Wjgp6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3S4B6rf.jpg

FireSale 12-31-2019 12:52 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
"Ran out of room on my electrical panel" Ha! I should post a pic of mine...


I have an LC-2 as my A/F controller and it works pretty well.


Be sure to mount it where it is easy to access those Serial IN/OUT connectors. They fit together securely, which means they are hard to pull apart for connection to a laptop.



If your laptop does not have a connector for the serial cable IMS includes, pick up a Serial to USB adapter cable at Best Buy or someplace like that. It will take a few tries to train the software to see the cable if you are going through USB.


IMS has a little SD card recorder that connects to this system called a Pocket Logger. You need to stop the recording before shutting the car off or it will trash run data but the thing is under $100. They have a remote button so the logger can be mounted out of the way. I made one using an old transbrake button but don't recommend a DYI fix unless you're a better wirehead than myself.



I just finished adding one of their extended data devices - the SSI4 Plus. It adds RPM to the data log and can do driveshaft speed and stuff like that. Any 5 volt input except exhaust temp. Can't say how well it works yet (no engine). If I can see my RPM and AFR on the same chart I can get a better idea of what's going on.


Which gauge do you have? I have the IMS G3 series. It can do warnings and such. I think it's the only straight A/F ratio gauge IMS makes. All the rest have an A/F control function that kind of duplicates the LC2.


Keep that gauge where you can't miss it during a run. Mine was in a dash pod last year and I missed the warning and toasted my engine. Now it's secured to the side of my tach.


It's no Racepak, but then it's not $2500 either.

Dave Muller 12-31-2019 01:13 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
Thanks for the information. Mine is the LC-2.

So far I haven't even thought about doing anything more than looking over at it occasionally during a run. But I will see about pulling more detailed run data out of it soon. The connectors are reasonably accessible at least.

Greg Reimer 7376 01-30-2020 08:48 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
Dave- When do you expect to be at Pomona before the race? I need to get with you on something Chevelle related.We can meet up at the track very easily.

Bob Shaw 02-03-2020 10:15 AM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
I had a lot of weird electrical problems when I had my MSD box mounted close to my other wiring.

Dissident 02-03-2020 08:43 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
One should look at the use of an easy to fabricate Faraday Cage, but opinions often vary. However, they are common on critical electronics in military and aerospace applications.:cool:
One need only look at most racecar wiring and wonder why. LOL:D

Regards,
HB2:)
Dissident

FireSale 02-05-2020 12:17 PM

Re: '66 Malibu N/SA
 
Bit more info. You know those wallets that protect the ID stripe on your credit cards? That's a Faraday Cage, an enclosure that stops outside electrical or radio interference. It is a fabric available from Amazon or just steel screen. For a race application you would build a box frame of aluminum covered with steel screen to cover electronics prone to interference. My Digital 8, IMS air/fuel controller, IMS data interface (SSI 4+) and an SD reader are all in one place on the trans hump and my collection of relays and power connections is on the passenger floor. The hump should be caged.


Something new for me this season is an RV style digital amp meter. It's wired to a shunt at the battery ground and reads amp draw as I turn on accessories. I have it wired to a double pole/double throw switch and can reverse it to read amps going into the battery (charging). Like, $20.


Call me Professor Small Block...

HP HUNTER 02-06-2020 10:21 AM

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I had a lot of weird electrical problems when I had my MSD box mounted close to my other wiring.

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