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Birch motor cars 12-13-2017 04:28 PM

EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
I have an ex IHRA Stock Eliminator car (68 Camaro) that ran as a Crate Motor car for years. Car has no engine, car is mini tubed, leaf spring with cal tracs. What class will this car fit into at NHRA ? Will be a small block. Im assuming it will have to be ran as a Super Stocker being mini tubed ? If your going to bash me for having a crate motor car please refrain yourself and not comment. I know I need a rule book but just thought someone could answer a simple question as to class selection. :cool:

Rusty Gillis 12-13-2017 04:38 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Birch motor cars (Post 551720)
I have an ex IHRA Stock Eliminator car (68 Camaro) that ran as a Crate Motor car for years. Car has no engine, car is mini tubed, leaf spring with cal tracs. What class will this car fit into at NHRA ? Will be a small block. Im assuming it will have to be ran as a Super Stocker being mini tubed ? If your going to bash me for having a crate motor car please refrain yourself and not comment. I know I need a rule book but just thought someone could answer a simple question as to class selection. :cool:

Yes you will have to run Super Stock unless you can put the stock wheelhouses back in.

HR9121 12-13-2017 04:58 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Are you going to run 327 or the 350? Also a possibility would be GT classes I think.

jmcarter 12-13-2017 05:20 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
GT would give you the option of buying any legal GM SS motor and running. Get access to the greatest tool around by going to ClassRacerinfo.com and following the link. This is a 1000 times easier than going through all of the classification guides on nhraracer.com

HR9121 12-13-2017 08:30 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
What Jim said x2! Very informative website to say the least, good luck.

2021STK 12-13-2017 11:35 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Check on Classracerinfo.com for your '68 combo's in the Stock-SS class tool for outside of the GT classes.

Good luck,

Myron Piatek 12-14-2017 08:10 AM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
IMO, if the replacing the mini-tubs is the biggest change you need to make to fit Stock, I would suggest taking that route. The learning curve, time and expense will be much easier to handle than going into SS. The variety of available engines is also a plus.

jmcarter 12-14-2017 10:00 AM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
If you decide to put the regular tubs back in you might consider the 327 two barrel combination; Sorensen has proven it to be potent and can hold it's own in heads up runs. If you jump up to the 396 you're going to be spending a lot of $ any way you go. Don't necessarily think one of the GT classes would be a bad deal, lots of people have GT cars that don't spin the high RPM which makes SS more costly. Factors in favor of SS is any GM motor will work (Dave Barcelon's 327 Larry Stewart built motor for sale sounds like a good buy BTW, particularly if you can fit enough tire) and can use trans brake and electric/air shifter. Only you can decide the budget and how fast you want to go; just trying to help a former crate motor racer make the switch. Good luck

Billy Nees 12-14-2017 10:36 AM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 551756)
If you decide to put the regular tubs back in you might consider the 327 two barrel combination; Sorensen has proven it to be potent and can hold it's own in heads up runs.

Sorensen's deal is a 69 350 2V. The 67-68 327 2V has WAY too small a carb and too high a HP factor. Even I wouldn't do the 327.

jmcarter 12-14-2017 11:10 AM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 551758)
Sorensen's deal is a 69 350 2V. The 67-68 327 2V has WAY too small a carb and too high a HP factor. Even I wouldn't do the 327.

Thanks Billy, my bad. Saw Sorensen's car at Woodburn this past summer and was very impressed and just glossed over the model year. Besides, I was busy admiring Jared's 64 Dodge. All the more reason to pour over Dwight's classracerinfo website including the specs.

Nitro Joe's stats are a great resource as well when seeing just how deep the water is before diving in.

Mark Yacavone 12-14-2017 12:51 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
68 car is very limited in Stock ,without spending a boatload of money to keep up.
As a SS/GT car, it doesn't need to be full tilt to run under the index.
69 full size 327, 1.250 2 bbl, 235 / 207 hp rating. GT/QA.
9" radials, stall it up good on the footbrake...Good to go... Half second under, no heads up runs
You're welcome..

Billy Nees 12-14-2017 01:17 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Now, that would work!

Birch motor cars 01-11-2018 03:21 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Thanks for all the replies, I have a lot to think about. Its just a pisser I have a complete (new) 350 330hp Legal engine sitting on the stand never fired, with no place to run it. :confused:

jmcarter 01-11-2018 03:28 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Birch motor cars (Post 553495)
Thanks for all the replies, I have a lot to think about. Its just a pisser I have a complete (new) 350 330hp Legal engine sitting on the stand never fired, with no place to run it. :confused:

Association combo races and NMCA will give you a chance you know...

Chipper Chapman 01-11-2018 04:19 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Birch motor cars (Post 553495)
Thanks for all the replies, I have a lot to think about. Its just a pisser I have a complete (new) 350 330hp Legal engine sitting on the stand never fired, with no place to run it. :confused:

The pistons in that engine should be the same for the 71-80 dished piston 350's. Buy some of the glamorous new dart castings allowed,sell the vortecs to recoupe, use your valves etc in them, good to go for a smog era motor, cheapest you'll get! lol The '71 350 2bbl is likely a good combo, 233hp with OE heads or 243 with replacement, the "big" 2 bbl carb, you'd fit in around GT/OA and have an 11.45 Index, at 3200 pounds with factory heads, 3330 with aftermarket. Go for it!

Billy Nees 01-11-2018 04:32 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
71 350 doesn't get the big 2bbl.

btrc 01-11-2018 05:36 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Birch motor cars (Post 553495)
Thanks for all the replies, I have a lot to think about. Its just a pisser I have a complete (new) 350 330hp Legal engine sitting on the stand never fired, with no place to run it. :confused:

If you are from NW Iowa like it says under your name you can race it at most of the MCR combo races in your area. The only ones you can't I believe would be the ones that are also National Opens.

SSGN 01-13-2018 10:01 AM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Would be a great 10.90 car and a lot cheaper to build/maintain. I see the Fletchers run the Nova in 10.90 lots, and then regular brackets etc. Just a thought.

Birch motor cars 01-19-2018 05:45 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
I have been told I can race for at least the next two years with my Crate Motor with the Midwest Class Racers. I think that's what Im going to do and start collecting parts for a Legal NHRA combo. :D

Birch motor cars 01-19-2018 05:55 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipper Chapman (Post 553500)
The pistons in that engine should be the same for the 71-80 dished piston 350's. Buy some of the glamorous new dart castings allowed,sell the vortecs to recoupe, use your valves etc in them, good to go for a smog era motor, cheapest you'll get! lol The '71 350 2bbl is likely a good combo, 233hp with OE heads or 243 with replacement, the "big" 2 bbl carb, you'd fit in around GT/OA and have an 11.45 Index, at 3200 pounds with factory heads, 3330 with aftermarket. Go for it!

So, Chipper your saying I can use the motor I have and all I have to do is change the heads ? What intake and carb can I use ? Im assuming I can use the comp cam I have in the motor as well ?

Chipper Chapman 01-20-2018 07:53 PM

Re: EX IHRA Stocker What does my car fit at NHRA
 
Yes you could. It would be a SS/GT combo so you can use any cam and intake, would need to get hold of a good 2gc carb though


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