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BLIND MULE 08-30-2013 05:06 PM

A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
I have a 78 Fairmont 2 door 200 c4 all original any potential in this combo?

Robert Swartz 08-30-2013 06:23 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
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Originally Posted by BLIND MULE (Post 397254)
I have a 78 Fairmont 2 door 200 c4 all original any potential in this combo?

What engine has it got? You say 200? Do you mean 2000? I know they put 2300's in a lot of them. Really don't know what other engines were available.

I did have a 79-80, can't remember which. Bought it as a beater back in 87. Drove it until about 1995. It was pretty rough when I bought it and rougher when I sold it, lol. Some kid bought it and rolled up and down the roads here for awhile. Then it disappeared. That old car was tough as nails. It had a 2300 with a four speed.

Looked it up, I'm dumb. It is a 200ci 6 cylinder. Factory hp is 85. NHRA rerate is 140hp. The car is a natural R. I'd move it up to T, the index is 14.40. Just doing some quick figuring, if at 19lbs for T. Minimum weight for the car with you in it would be 2830lbs. It would take approximately 190hp to get to the T index. I'm sure Billy, Yac or Dwight Southerland could tell us whether this combo has any validity. I'm willing to bet the Ford 200 could be capable of making hp, just not sure about this version of the 200.

As a racing combo, just have to poke around the guide and see where it lands.

Joe Toller 08-30-2013 07:26 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
I tried it in a wagon. It's got potential, only if you can get the NHRA to refactor it to where it belongs, like V. Not sure where they got 140hp; I was told it was a typo and should be 114? The combo works in older Mavericks and Comets. Dave Turner on here used to run one. The integral head and intake design is a bottleneck. the plus side is Fox-body parts are cheap. My wagon came manual brakes and steering. I was thinking if the refactored 302s stay the way they are, then a guy would have something!

BLIND MULE 08-30-2013 07:31 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
I don't think it would make 140 with a turbo???? I'm just thinking outloud may just put adapter on it with 2v and bracket race it! Anybody have a camshaft for this what specs is the cam anyway if anybody wants to tell?

Joe Toller 08-30-2013 08:20 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
Keep duration at .050 around 240. Lunati does have a grind for this motor. Check out www.classicinlines.com, all he does is inline Fords, especially the 200. They can make 230-250hp with some work, in stocker trim I'd guess 150 max? The head/intake design is poor.

Joe Toller 08-30-2013 08:26 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
I think the best route would be a 302, very cheap to build and find headers, etc. for, plus a 4cyl. K member is the same as a V8. If it stays at 139, I'd say U/SA terror. If it goes back to the original 162, I'd think it would at least hit the Q or R index?

I am still thinking about getting my old wagon back and going V8...

Robert Swartz 08-30-2013 08:59 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
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Originally Posted by BLIND MULE (Post 397285)
I don't think it would make 140 with a turbo???? I'm just thinking outloud may just put adapter on it with 2v and bracket race it! Anybody have a camshaft for this what specs is the cam anyway if anybody wants to tell?

Ok, a little more back figuring. IF you could get the 114hp. You could look at W, car would weigh, minimum, 2906lbs. You're looking at 125 or so hp to run the 16.65 index. I'm kicking this around in my head, seems an anemic 200 could make 125hp? Here again, I don't know this engine. How much cam has it got? How crappy is the intake/carb? Factory hp is 85, it has to be pretty restrictive.

Here again, a good budget C4, a small converter. Some gear and a set of tires that would work. You could start out with a set of drag radials like I've done with my Achieva. At least starting out, you shouldn't kill the tranny and rear end. Pretty sure you could find some kind of headers.

I may be way off base here, fun excersize. Then again, the 302 might be the better way to go.

Joe Toller 08-30-2013 09:37 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
Classic Inlines makes a header; Hooker does for the Maverick, which could be modified to fit. Going junkyard crawling, look under Aerostars and Rangers, they often have limited slip rears with 3.73 gears, and 4cyl Rangers sometimes have 4.10s.

ALMACK 09-10-2013 04:00 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
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Originally Posted by iraceitall (Post 397292)
I think the best route would be a 302, very cheap to build and find headers, etc. for, plus a 4cyl. K member is the same as a V8. If it stays at 139, I'd say U/SA terror. If it goes back to the original 162, I'd think it would at least hit the Q or R index?

I am still thinking about getting my old wagon back and going V8...

I am looking into the '78 Fairmont 302 2 bbl (139hp) combo for U/SA.
Looks promising.


I had a '79 Fairmont 2 door with the original 200 six but it had the V-8 /2.3 k-member, so I think the oddball 200 six x-members came out in 1980-1981 or so. Not sure tho.

Cool cars and they be gotten down light because they came from the factory with thin glass and sheet metal as well as aluminum bumpers.

BLIND MULE 09-10-2013 06:26 PM

Re: A dime or a big dollar rocket?
 
I don't know much about the rules but if I changed it to a 302 would another year block pass if the heads were right or can it be done like that? Yea the Fairmonts are kinda neat I have 2 one is completley original and it also has a vinyl top! They have more over hang than a Mustang which should help also? Wish I could use a 289 I have a complete 66 engine?

Thanks!


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