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Randy Wells 02-09-2024 07:39 PM

Not fit to stand trial.
 
So FJBs classified documents case is over, he is not fit to stand trial according to his own DOJ. Does that concern you, this idiot has the launch codes.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

Eddies66 02-10-2024 09:19 AM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 693244)
So FJBs classified documents case is over, he is not fit to stand trial according to his own DOJ. Does that concern you, this idiot has the launch codes.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/he...uclear-weapons


Do just a little homework to have a better understanding of the system of Two Man Control, EAM, and SAS/PAL.


Signed, Dragon Keeper

Randy Wells 02-10-2024 09:29 AM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 693279)
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/he...uclear-weapons


Do just a little homework to have a better understanding of the system of Two Man Control, EAM, and SAS/PAL.


Signed, Dragon Keeper


Eddie,

I am well aware that the president can't launch a nuke on his own, he is just a link in the chain, in FJBs case a broken link.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

Mark Yacavone 02-10-2024 01:24 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 693244)
J. Does that concern you, this idiot has the launch codes.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

No, because he won't remember where he put them.

Eddies66 02-10-2024 03:43 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 693291)
No, because he won't remember where he put them.

Do you know who has the football?

Mark Yacavone 02-10-2024 09:40 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 693299)
Do you know who has the football?

Let me guess...
Joe Biteme, in the garage , behind the Corvette...next to the toilet plunger?

Eddies66 02-10-2024 11:50 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 693309)
Let me guess...
Joe Biteme, in the garage , behind the Corvette...next to the toilet plunger?

Wrong, no brownie points for you.

Eddies66 02-11-2024 09:39 AM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Let me post what I believe is the real problem, having been a Security Manager with access to TS material. Let give my thoughts on how all this classified material should have been controlled. Once a document has been classifiedi, a control number is placed on it by whoever is running the CMCC. When a piece of material is checked out, an individual must sign for it. When it is turned in that same individual signed it back in and is relieved of the responsibility and it falls back under the control of the CMCC and placed in a Class C container with a 3 way combination lock.



Here is the real kicker, elected officials do not require the completion of a Background Investigation (SF86). I have not only been subjected to numerous background checks and interviewed numerous individuals for access to classified material. An example of information asked and what can have you denied access is: have you been convicted of a crime or have you ever filed for bankruptcy, do you or have you ever done drugs. These are just a few of the questions on the SF86. Again, unfortunately, elected Federal officials are not subject to a Background Investigation (BI).



In both, the Trump and Biden cases, improper storage of classified material is a slap on the hand. When I worked with State Dept. a JF-11 was issued and the individual would have to explain why the material was not properly stored and I have found some real interesting stuff that would have compromised the security of this nation. Nobodies career was ended...nothing. Here is the difference in the two cases, when Biden was asked to return the material, he did. You know the rest of the story, Obstruction of justice is a serious crime and nobody is above the law.

Chevy55 02-11-2024 08:38 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 693309)
Let me guess...
Joe Biteme, in the garage , behind the Corvette...next to the toilet plunger?

Those boxes were taken out of his old office and moved to his home just like the documents that Pence had and neither knew they were there. The problem with Trump is he wouldn't give them back was flaunting them and maybe before this is all over we'll find out if any National Secrets were compromised because rumor has it that he had taken some documents out of the Country!

Mark Yacavone 02-11-2024 11:15 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 693370)
Those boxes were taken out of his old office and moved to his home !

Really? Blame the staff, huh? Of course ,Biteme didn't notice them in an open box, when he took his Corvette for a ride.
You and a few of your buddies are so gullible...

Mark Yacavone 02-11-2024 11:47 PM

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Eddies66 02-12-2024 09:31 AM

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Eddies66 02-12-2024 09:33 AM

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Eddies66 02-12-2024 10:06 AM

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Eddies66 02-12-2024 10:10 AM

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Chevy55 02-12-2024 10:41 AM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 693393)
Really? Blame the staff, huh? Of course ,Biteme didn't notice them in an open box, when he took his Corvette for a ride.
You and a few of your buddies are so gullible...

Yeah, okay! LOL

Mark Yacavone 02-12-2024 12:18 PM

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https://i.postimg.cc/J4s91dD4/libera...96-da7m9wi.jpg

Chevy55 02-12-2024 12:27 PM

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“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”


― John F. Kennedy

Alan Roehrich 02-12-2024 05:03 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Funny, the records Trump had were those he was entitled to possess as President, and took with him, listing them when he left the White House. They were stored in a location known to the FBI, secured in a manner the FBI agreed to in writing, and guarded with a constant Secret Service presence, and monitored 24/7 with closed circuit cameras. There is still a legal dispute as to whether not Trump is entitled to possess them. Note, not once did the FBI or NSA complain, until the "National Archives" complained Trump had documents they wanted.



Biden was never entitled to possess any documents outside a secured federal facility. But the documents in his possession were stored in multiple completely unsecured locations, where they were never supposed to be to begin with. Biden took records he was not entitled to not just as VP, but even before that as senator. Further, not only were those records not secure, Biden did not even know where they were.



But you raging leftists just keep right on excusing and spinning.


Honest, intelligent people know Biden is the national security risk, guilty of felony mishandling of federal documents.

Eddies66 02-12-2024 05:41 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Title 5 of the US Code states:

1312.25 Storage.

All classified material in the possession of OMB will be stored in a GSA-approved container or in vault-type rooms approved for Top Secret storage. Under the direction of the EOP Security Officer, combinations to safes used in the storage of classified material will be changed when the equipment is placed in use, whenever a person knowing the combination no longer requires access to it, whenever the combination has been subjected to possible compromise, whenever the equipment is taken out of service, or at least once a year. Knowledge of combinations will be limited to the minimum number of persons necessary, and records of combinations will be assigned a classification no lower than the highest level of classified information stored in the equipment concerned. An SF–700, Security Container Information, will be used in recording safe combinations. Standard Form–702, Security Container check sheet, will be posted to each safe and will be used to record opening, closing, and checking the container whenever it is used.


Protection of classified material is not the responsibility/mission of the FBI or Secret Service.

And how many foreign workers did Trump hire to work at hotel?

An executive order signed by former President Barack Obama authorizes the vice president to classify and declassify documents.

Former President Donald Trump did not issue an executive order setting new rules on classification and declassification powers; President Joe Biden hasn’t issued such an executive order, either. So Obama’s order remains in effect.

Mark Yacavone 02-12-2024 05:42 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 693431)
“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”


― John F. Kennedy

ATT. The three stooges

Today's democratic party is NOT the party of JFK.
Only thing wrong with the liberals of today is ruin everything they touch, and I mean everything!

Eddies66 02-12-2024 06:36 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 693463)
ATT. The three stooges

Today's democratic party is NOT the party of JFK.
Only thing wrong with the liberals of today is ruin everything they touch, and I mean everything!

Yeah, they did great job on the stock market and creating jobs…shall we go on?

Chevy55 02-12-2024 07:49 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 693457)
Funny, the records Trump had were those he was entitled to possess as President, and took with him, listing them when he left the White House. They were stored in a location known to the FBI, secured in a manner the FBI agreed to in writing, and guarded with a constant Secret Service presence, and monitored 24/7 with closed circuit cameras. There is still a legal dispute as to whether not Trump is entitled to possess them. Note, not once did the FBI or NSA complain, until the "National Archives" complained Trump had documents they wanted.



Biden was never entitled to possess any documents outside a secured federal facility. But the documents in his possession were stored in multiple completely unsecured locations, where they were never supposed to be to begin with. Biden took records he was not entitled to not just as VP, but even before that as senator. Further, not only were those records not secure, Biden did not even know where they were.



But you raging leftists just keep right on excusing and spinning.


Honest, intelligent people know Biden is the national security risk, guilty of felony mishandling of federal documents.

Funny this is that you got everything wrong! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Eddies66 02-12-2024 08:09 PM

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I am anticipating that some here may think an ex-president may have decided s/he “needs to know” certain information and can therefore access it. That is not how it works. The person with the information determines if the requestor has a “need to know”. If they determine that there is no “need to know” they are forbidden (yes, forbidden) from sharing that information regardless of the would be recipient’s security clearance.

Chevy55 02-12-2024 08:11 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 693463)
ATT. The three stooges

Today's democratic party is NOT the party of JFK.
Only thing wrong with the liberals of today is ruin everything they touch, and I mean everything!

Yep, Clinton ruined Reagan Bush recession then Obama ruined Bush Jr's depression and left a booming economy for Trump.
Trump then turned that booming economy into a total catastrophe then handed that mess to Biden.
Biden then turned it into a record Stock Market, brought the pandemic under control, achieved record low unemployment, brought inflation back down and has the economy booming.
See a pattern here? :p:p:p

Randy Wells 02-12-2024 08:39 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 693482)
Yep, Clinton ruined Reagan Bush recession then Obama ruined Bush Jr's depression and left a booming economy for Trump.
Trump then turned that booming economy into a total catastrophe then handed that mess to Biden.
Biden then turned it into a record Stock Market, brought the pandemic under control, achieved record low unemployment, brought inflation back down and has the economy booming.
See a pattern here? :p:p:p


What world are you living in? WOW. he is doing such a good job I think he is running about a 34% favorable rating in most polls. You must a be a goverment worker.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

Chevy55 02-13-2024 11:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 693487)
What world are you living in? WOW. he is doing such a good job I think he is running about a 34% favorable rating in most polls. You must a be a goverment worker.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

You guys are all the same, when you're faced with a post that pushes back on your beliefs you attack the poster while refusing to comment on the post.
If you don't agree with what Biden's doing then say it!

SStockDart 02-13-2024 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 693510)
You guys are all the same, when you're faced with a post that pushes back on your beliefs you attack the poster while refusing to comment on the post.
If you don't agree with what Biden's doing then say it!

You could say that we are all the same because we use our names and home location. You don't, are you skeerd????

Mark Yacavone 02-13-2024 10:15 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
This what happens to Democrats when they rely on identity politics.
Now they are stuck with a cackling lightweight that doesn't even poll as good as FJB




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcHU8aMCz1Q

Mike Gray 02-14-2024 02:36 PM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 693482)
Yep, Clinton ruined Reagan Bush recession then Obama ruined Bush Jr's depression and left a booming economy for Trump.
Trump then turned that booming economy into a total catastrophe then handed that mess to Biden.
Biden then turned it into a record Stock Market, brought the pandemic under control, achieved record low unemployment, brought inflation back down and has the economy booming.
See a pattern here? :p:p:p

Government employee? They're the ones who prospered the most under democrat administrations. I owned a small company with about 100 employees. I always did better under a republican administration (and we were a union shop) The market can overcome any particular administration and it goes in predictable cycles. I was even earning 16% on savings under Carter. It takes a few years for the government actions to really be felt and Trump was skewered by Covid, Biden prolonged the problem. It's now getting by better because he hasn't done too much. Elect someone like Newsom and he can screw up the status quo with his hare brained ideas. Look what he's doing to Calif. despite what retired military (thank you) Eddie says. In Calif. most people work for the state, work for a union in bed with the democrats or are on state assistance. It's turned the state into 1 party control which is the democrat dream for the country. Calif. for the 1st time is losing population by those well enough off to get out and take their money with them. I'm next.

Greg Reimer 7376 02-14-2024 04:10 PM

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It's funny how many states surrounding calipornia don't exactly welcome us, but it's understandable. They don't want liberalism to contaminate their population centers and over rule the will of the People in those states. They don't want liberal programs from surrounding states to change things that they feel has served them well in the past. They don't want higher taxes to fund and finance programs from outside their states they would find detrimental. Ever notice that when people in office push through expensive legislation, the people who get stuck paying the bill are the people who were there first and never needed it in the first place?
What if you had a nice home, it was furnished the way you want, you had nice cars, a truck, and an RV that you worked for, and you had it the way you wanted it, you have good kids that are being educated on your nickel,you have competitive race cars and a few trophies to substantiate that, you always paid your own bills and you gave to those less fortunate who deserve it,(like our Veterans), and some liberal outsiders moved in to your town, city,county,state,whatever (like liberals),started making demands, started taking over, started basically telling you what to do in your own domain, imposed fees, taxes,fines,assessments, whatever and then started attacking your family and way of life, implying that you somehow shouldn't have any thing at all that they didn't give you, and basically put out the attitude that you somehow owe them a living and everything else as well.How long would you send for that? Why are we any different?
A good friend of mine who passed away several years ago had a shop nearby, and his most common rant was the city-state,county, whatever has gotten into the habit of stepping in and telling him and everybody else how to run their business, and imposing new fees fines,taxes, hiring quotas and mandates, and all else. This was about 10-12 years ago, and if he could see it now! He told me once that a revolution might be coming, he wouldn't probably live to see it, but that I probably would. I hope he was just over reacting, but you really wonder sometimes.

Eddies66 02-14-2024 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 693595)
Government employee? They're the ones who prospered the most under democrat administrations. I owned a small company with about 100 employees. I always did better under a republican administration (and we were a union shop) The market can overcome any particular administration and it goes in predictable cycles. I was even earning 16% on savings under Carter. It takes a few years for the government actions to really be felt and Trump was skewered by Covid, Biden prolonged the problem. It's now getting by better because he hasn't done too much. Elect someone Newsom and he can screw up the status quo with his hair brained ideas. Look what he's doing to Calif. despite what retired military (thank you) Eddie says. In Calif. most people work for the state, work for a union in bed with the democrats or are on state assistance. It's turned the state into 1 party control which is the democrat dream for the country. Calif. for the 1st time is losing population by those well enough off to get out and take their money with them. I'm next.


There are 38 million people in California, the most populated state in the country and the 4th largest economy in the world. I live in a great neighborhood, I pay my taxes, have all the freedoms that I took an oath to defend. Been retired for 10 years, I volunteer to help veterans. I have a great life and family. The greatest choice for change is your vote!

Mike Gray 02-15-2024 12:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 693611)
There are 38 million people in California, the most populated state in the country and the 4th largest economy in the world. I live in a great neighborhood, I pay my taxes, have all the freedoms that I took an oath to defend. Been retired for 10 years, I volunteer to help veterans. I have a great life and family. The greatest choice for change is your vote!

It was a great state, now we have more people living in poverty percentage wise than any other state. More homelessness than any other state, high crime rates all while paying just about the highest in the country in taxes. Under Brown and Newsom the budget for the state has tripled and they constantly talk about investigating big oil for ripping us off when the high price of gasoline can be traced directly back to their policies.
(Cap and trade is alive and well in Calif.) The legislature even passed a resolution to investigate taking over all health care in the state and coming up with a single payer plan covering everyone including illegals, only going to cost us about 500B.

Eddies66 02-15-2024 09:31 AM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 693653)
It was a great state, now we have more people living in poverty percentage wise than any other state. More homelessness than any other state, high crime rates all while paying just about the highest in the country in taxes. Under Brown and Newsom the budget for the state has tripled and they constantly talk about investigating big oil for ripping us off when the high price of gasoline can be traced directly back to their policies.
(Cap and trade is alive and well in Calif.) The legislature even passed a resolution to investigate taking over all health care in the state and coming up with a single payer plan covering everyone including illegals, only going to cost us about 500B.


I wouldn't live in any other place. No state is problem free!

Eddies66 02-15-2024 09:34 AM

Re: Not fit to stand trial.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 693609)
It's funny how many states surrounding calipornia don't exactly welcome us, but it's understandable. They don't want liberalism to contaminate their population centers and over rule the will of the People in those states. They don't want liberal programs from surrounding states to change things that they feel has served them well in the past. They don't want higher taxes to fund and finance programs from outside their states they would find detrimental. Ever notice that when people in office push through expensive legislation, the people who get stuck paying the bill are the people who were there first and never needed it in the first place?
What if you had a nice home, it was furnished the way you want, you had nice cars, a truck, and an RV that you worked for, and you had it the way you wanted it, you have good kids that are being educated on your nickel,you have competitive race cars and a few trophies to substantiate that, you always paid your own bills and you gave to those less fortunate who deserve it,(like our Veterans), and some liberal outsiders moved in to your town, city,county,state,whatever (like liberals),started making demands, started taking over, started basically telling you what to do in your own domain, imposed fees, taxes,fines,assessments, whatever and then started attacking your family and way of life, implying that you somehow shouldn't have any thing at all that they didn't give you, and basically put out the attitude that you somehow owe them a living and everything else as well.How long would you send for that? Why are we any different?
A good friend of mine who passed away several years ago had a shop nearby, and his most common rant was the city-state,county, whatever has gotten into the habit of stepping in and telling him and everybody else how to run their business, and imposing new fees fines,taxes, hiring quotas and mandates, and all else. This was about 10-12 years ago, and if he could see it now! He told me once that a revolution might be coming, he wouldn't probably live to see it, but that I probably would. I hope he was just over reacting, but you really wonder sometimes.


Let me say a little about that, you and I have busted our asses to have what we have. Enough said, see you at the Winternationals.


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