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CraigG 01-17-2024 11:28 AM

Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Hey Guys,

Bracket racing now with nose heavy 72 GTO - high 9 second car.

These are the two in my budget - please let me know your opinions.

Thanks, Craig

1320racer 01-17-2024 11:48 AM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
you want Afco BNC shocks aka big nose compression

El Duderino 01-17-2024 12:44 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 691748)
you want Afco BNC shocks aka big nose compression

Craig, I don't know which shock is right for you...I do know that I wouldn't be taking advise on front shocks (or anything else) from a know it all, .90 bench racer

Tom Goldman 01-17-2024 01:37 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Spend the money for a pair of Santhuff shocks . Yes they are $1400 but they will save your headers and oil pan and all the other wear and tear on the suspension.
They WILL control the bounce , Strange and Viking are not going to give you what you are looking for.

cad 01-17-2024 01:51 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Out of the box BNCs will not be perfect. I sent mine to Competitive Suspension to be revalved.
https://i.postimg.cc/Lg3qYYJx/FB-IMG-1703016466568.jpg
Clark

1320racer 01-17-2024 01:51 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El Duderino (Post 691750)
Craig, I do know that I wouldn't be taking advise on front shocks (or anything else) from a know it all, .90 bench racer

Says the guy who registers a new user name 3 days ago just to engage me who doesn’t have the balls to do it under his original user name. LOSER:p

1320racer 01-17-2024 01:58 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cad (Post 691753)
Out of the box BNCs will not be perfect. I sent mine to Competitive Suspension to be revalved.

I’ve been using Afco’s BNC shocks for nearly 20 years. Their adjustment range on both compression and extension provides the ability to dial in the shocks perfectly for most applications and if they need adjustment, you don’t need anyone else but Afco to tune them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17hHOSyN8w

https://i.imgur.com/nTy0R5Gl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/baIzqeql.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YqxDsHRl.jpg

1320racer 01-17-2024 02:10 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 691752)
Strange and Viking are not going to give you what you are looking for.

Agree

CraigG 01-17-2024 02:28 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Well I am not sure that the AFCO shocks come as non coil-overs as I am using the stock control arms and Landrum #180 5X18 springs.

Thanks

1320racer 01-17-2024 02:30 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
They do. The stock A arms, need a small modification for the shock body diameter and mounting. Go to www.Chevelle.com and search Afco BNC. You should find info and photos regarding the required A arm modification.

I had planned to install the BNC shocks in my nose heavy Chevelle which had 59% of its 3880 lbs. over the front tires, but I sold it months after this video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKYio6OvKM

Rick J 01-17-2024 03:39 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Listen to Tom

Rick J 01-17-2024 03:53 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
xxx - sorry, double post

Marty Rinehart Jr 01-17-2024 07:06 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigG (Post 691746)
Hey Guys,

Bracket racing now with nose heavy 72 GTO - high 9 second car.

These are the two in my budget - please let me know your opinions.

Thanks, Craig

Craig, give me a call and I will be glad to help you make sure you’re getting the correct shock to control the bouncing. We are dealers for Santhuff and Afco. So I will give you a few options to meet your budget.
717-793-6819

1320racer 01-18-2024 09:34 AM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Afco for the WIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r2EEF-hLI0

Mike Pearson 01-18-2024 10:03 AM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Santhuff would be my first choice. I have them on my car and they control the bounce perfectly on my Gen 1 Camaro. Afco would be my second choice. I have known some racers that took the Afco shocks off and replaced with Santhuff because the Afco didnt satisfy them on the bounce control.

1320racer 01-18-2024 10:16 AM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
and I know racers that have thrown their santhuffs in the weeds and Afco’s BNC instantly fixed their bouncing landings. Just watch my videos, there is NO bounce.

NHRA1926 01-18-2024 04:26 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
I bought a pair of Santhuffs last year from Marty Reinhart. Expensive, yes, BUT, Afco BNC would not stop my Camaro from bottoming out, even after sending them back to Afco 6 times for re-valving. As soon as I installed the Santhufs shocks and landrum springs that Marty recommended, the car was doing 80 foot wheel stands, but lands like its on a cloud. They are the only shock I will run on my Camaro. Call Marty, he will inform you to make a good quality decision.

Ryan Horensky 01-18-2024 04:50 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigG (Post 691746)
Hey Guys,

Bracket racing now with nose heavy 72 GTO - high 9 second car.

These are the two in my budget - please let me know your opinions.

Thanks, Craig

Randy Mans at FastShocks is another direction you could go with. We’ve had ours since 2017 and have zero bounce when the front end comes down. Great product and Randy is great to work with.

SS3860 01-18-2024 10:14 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
I can tell you Vikings won't control bounce and Randy Manns at Fast Shocks can.


Tom Flowers
E/SA

1320racer 01-19-2024 06:23 AM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
the OP doesn't need shocks built by Randy or Dave or any other custom shock builder nor does he need Santhuffs. The videos I have provided show clearly that Afco BNC's not only control wheelstand bounce but eliminates it as my 3244 lb. Firebird with 55% of that on the front tires has zero bounce when touching down, it's perfection in motion!

cad 01-19-2024 02:25 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 691820)
the OP doesn't need shocks built by Randy or Dave or any other custom shock builder nor does he need Santhuffs. The videos I have provided show clearly that Afco BNC's not only control wheelstand bounce but eliminates it as my 3244 lb. Firebird with 55% of that on the front tires has zero bounce when touching down, it's perfection in motion!

I couldnt get my S10 to stop bouncing. Eric revalved them, and went far wrong. Dave C stated that the valving was what he would use on a 5.0 second car...

What front spring?

What are the Comp and Rebound settings?

Eric Merryfield 01-19-2024 02:43 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 691782)
and I know racers that have thrown their santhuffs in the weeds and Afco’s BNC instantly fixed their bouncing landings. Just watch my videos, there is NO bounce.

Which weeds are these?.....I'll snag them.....I like my santhuffs for my mopars, but I must say those Afco's are a very attractive blue, remind me of my bmx days...

1320racer 01-19-2024 03:09 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield (Post 691852)
I must say those Afco's are a very attractive blue, remind me of my bmx days...

Afco are now available in black too.:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by cad (Post 691849)
I couldnt get my S10 to stop bouncing. Eric revalved them, and went far wrong. Dave C stated that the valving was what he would use on a 5.0 second car...

What front spring?

What are the Comp and Rebound settings?

Eric hasn't been involved in retail sales for a very long time so your issue was a very long time ago and were your shocks even BNCs?

My BNCs are about 13 years old and were rebuilt last winter by Ben Baker from Afco and I purchased new chrome springs too. My rear Afco shocks and springs are
also brand new and too installed last winter, replacing the Afco's installed by MPR when the car was built in 2004. 20 years of trouble free service and they were never rebuilt.

https://i.imgur.com/BAhLTial.jpg

nickh 01-19-2024 05:28 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Ed nice setup those chrome springs should be worth a tenth LOL

1320racer 01-19-2024 05:35 PM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Nah the chrome just makes the underside more photogenic :D but I wish considering most of the guaranteed to run quicker/faster parts I have tried in all my race cars over 30 years weren’t worth a tenth and some weren’t worth a hundredth.:rolleyes:

1320racer 01-20-2024 10:25 AM

Re: Strange DA vs Viking DA for Wheelstand Bounce Control
 
Another perfection in motion video:D thanks to Afco BNC shocks and Alan Reinhart notices;)

start at 4:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1bSLwioDk


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