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Is that shocking?

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Electrifying news

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Only if everyone buys it

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Personally, I will be so DISAPPOINTED if all the TARDLINGS on this forum don’t have Electric tow vehicles by 2025 .......I mean if you TALK the talk, you should WALK the walk .....

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Most of them don't race anyway.
I know...I should talk, but.. bear with me

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My disability scooter is electric.. Does that ease the disappointment?

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I can't wait to see/hear all of the excuses for lithium toxicity. It is going to make the internal-combustion engine look really clean.

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GM announced yesterday, they will be all electric by 2035.

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Electric vehicles are here to stay, whether we like them or not. Many of us are 65+, so our active life is on the countdown. That being said, I hope we all can have an active lifestyle for as long as possible.

My biggest concerns about electric vehicles are durability and distance between charges. Gas or diesel vehicles last well over 150,000 miles with very little maintenance involved. Plus we can go over 400 miles between fill ups in the average vehicle, towing not necessarily included, some many more (cars).

By 2035 I will be 85, so probably not driving much at that point.

My question is 2 parts - How is the durability of an electric vehicle and what is the farthest you can go between charging??????

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Will we be able to recharge, use the restroom, get a coffee and a death dog with mustard in 15 to 20 minutes? I don't think so!

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My daughter just purchased an extended mileage Tesla (332 miles), as far as durability, we will see.

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I don’t know if any of the big 3 have all electric vehicles on the road right now. Seems most are hybrid and run on gas and electric. I rode in one of my friends Chevy hybrid a few months ago. It ran great and fast. Not sure on the fuel mileage. I can’t imagine a all electric dually that would be able to pull a big trailer for any long mile trips. I think it’s a pipe dream to be able to be no gas vehicles in 14 years. The technology is not good enough yet. I don’t even have a battery golf cart because of the charging and battery life.

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My son has one. Had it a couple years now. He was over to the house last summer in it and brother John wouldn't even take a ride in it ! LOL ..In two years he has not spent a dime on fuel. Drives an hour each way to work. Plugs it into his garage charger when he gets home from work. Tells me he did not notice any change in his electric bill. So far, its never had to return to the dealer. Acceleration is amazing. I'm guessing, it's gotta be a 13 second car. Its so quiet inside its strange.

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I was at the local track with my son in law. One of his friends was there running a Tesla SUV. It was running low 7’s in the 1/8th. I think he said the price for it was near 100k

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Thanks Eddie for the info. My kids live in Boise, Idaho so the trip is just about 500 miles. I would have to stop and re-charge somewhere along the way - not practical. I assume the re-charge would take a few hours. I'll stick to a gas vehicle for now, thank you.

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From Tesla site.

Public Charging
When away from home, Tesla Superchargers and Destination Charging networks have you covered. You can locate Tesla charging stations through your touchscreen, via navigation and on the Tesla Find Us map.

Supercharger stations are placed on well-traveled routes and dense urban centers, allowing your car to charge to 80% in about 30 minutes. Located near helpful amenities like coffee shops and travel plazas, Superchargers are designed to charge quickly and get you back on the road.

Tesla’s Destination Charging network allows you to charge at thousands of convenient charging locations like local shopping centers, parking garages, hotels, restaurants and other hospitality locations.

Find a Destination Charger or Supercharger near you.

If you plan on using chargers outside of the Tesla Network, keep the included J-1772 adapter in your car to expand your charging options.

pS

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So are these charging stations free power or do they charge you?? Tom

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How does he pay the motorfuel gas tax?

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Bobby, as far as I know we don't have one in OHIO. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never heard one mentioned. When he bought his he received free Supercharging credits worth 400 kWh (equivalent to 1,000 miles) annually on the anniversary of the vehicle’s delivery. It used to cost him around 15 bucks to fill his up at one of those charging stations.. I guess it depends on the State you live in how much they charge for the KWH rate.

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If you charge at a Tesla supercharger, the cost is typically about $0.25 per KW if you purchased a Model S or Model X after January 2017. Supercharging is free for cars purchased before, January 2017. The average supercharger cost of $0.25 per KW also applies for Model 3. A full recharge to about 250 miles of range costs approximately $22.00. More typically, a half charge (150 miles of range) would cost about $11.00. Cost varies based on the region of the country and local electricity rates.


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Interesting that he never noticed a jump in his electric bill. A few months ago on the local news, a person who bought a pure electric car, was complaining how much their electric bill had gone up since they started charging their electric car every night. You would have to think charging a battery for 8 or 10 hours every night just HAS to use some juice. Shortly before I retired after 23 years at a Toyota dealership, 2 of the mechanics leased new Toyota Prius Prime Plug In Hybrids. both live about 20-25 miles from the dealership, and under normal conditions, each can make the commute from home without having the gas engine turn on, they then plug the car in at work, and when their 10 hour shift is over, they can, again, usually make it home just before the battery runs down far enough to cause the gas engine to start, and help charge the battery. The one guy had driven his Prius for 3 months, and still had 1/2 tank from when he picked the car up. Of course if you get stuck in gridlock, or need to run the heater or A/C a lot, the battery runs down that much quicker, or if you don`t baby it on acceleration. At home, you can elect to use a conventional 115 volt plug in, and wait 8 hours or more to charge the battery up, or spend $2000. or more, to have a high speed charger installed at home. I suppose if you do a lot of mostly local driving, and live in or near the city, an electric car or plug in hybrid may be worth considering, but I couldn`t imagine having one as your only vehicle if you live semi rural, or need to be able to go on a long drive now and then, without being stuck waiting for the battery to charge along the way. As for being able to tow a heavy trailer long distances, not sure how convenient trying to maneuver a big motorhome or crew cab dually with a 28 foot trailer behind it, between a pair of Teslas suckling at the public charging stations , would be. Not to mention all the big rig tractor trailers criss crossing North America. Really can`t see fossil fuels going away anytime soon. And realistically, do our cities and utility companies have anywhere near the needed surplus power to charge millions of electric cars? Should be interesting!

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My dad is rolling over in his grave. He worked at the GM plant in Flint, MI for 24 years before Jimmy Carter destroyed the auto industry. I’m fortunate that I was born in the 60’s. The future of the automobile sucks.

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That is a good question, How are they the governments' going to pay for the road systems, bridges whatnots. Gas taxes generate lots of cash what is going to replace these taxes. Tom

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Mileage fee, here in Calif. they are experimenting with gps system to charge you by the mile and time of day for road usage. It will just become another screwed up Calif. system.

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$36.4 Billion in 2016. Drop in the bucket with todays Govt. spending.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_t...l_tax_revenues

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I drive a 1992 Geo Metro with 308K miles on it and counting. 56-58 MPG and it never gets less than 50. I'm good.

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Washington and Oregon are experimenting with road use taxes as well, biggest hurdle I see is building the infrastructure to support all the charging stations. California already has rolling brownouts during peak season so not sure if more nuclear power is the answer, all kind of alternatives in discussion but for sure plenty of tax dollars spent as they take the inevitable 2 steps forward followed by 1-3 steps back. The Ford F-150 with the Pro Power options (all the way up to a 7.2kW output!) is an interesting twist at keeping gas powered vehicles viable. I’m currently considering picking up an electric car just in case world events and/or the current political climate continues unabated.

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Tesla Model S Plaid Plus

Range 520 miles
Quickest 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile acceleration of any production car ever
0-60 mph: <1.99s
1/4 mile: <9.0s
Top Speed 200 mph
1,100+ horsepower
Three high performance motors
Carbon-sleeved rotors
Torque vectoring

The only rub is that prices start at about $135,000, however you can spend a lot more and not be as fast.

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No problem getting more electricity, Jim, Just built some coal burning power plants !Seems the Greenies don`t like nuclear power, coal, or fossil fuels, I guess their answer if for us to all ride horses again. Now, about that equine flatulence......:cool::rolleyes:

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The only way that we/they can do away with fossil fuels will be with nukes. There's no way that we/they can generate enough power with wind and solar alone unless we/they can come up with a way to encapsulate the sun! And OBTW, that's a nuke.

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Don't worry..fossil fuels aren't going away anytime soon. Does anybody think Pelosi wants to give up flying home , cross country on weekends , in her private jet?

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Crazy Nancy won’t give it up but she expects us to take a knee and give it up

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It appears that the CEO of Toyota and Elon Musk agree that it is not sustainable.

Also, it is a known fact that it requires 250 tons of mineral ore Spodumene when mined, or 750 tons of mineral rich brine to produce one ton of lithium. The processing of large amounts of raw materials results in considerable environmental impacts.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...Rp2SjIkAjNpgHs

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While you're looking at the toxicity of lithium, look at how toxic solar panels are.

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Truth over facts Billy.

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It’s all easy lipservice. They know it’s not real. They'll deal with the about face later.

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Can't wait to see the first electric car that will be in the "Stock car classification" guide. Come 2035 it will be awful quiet at a racetrack. I can can smell the "arcing" ozone already.

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What happens when 30 Tesla's pull in to recharge and only 10 charging stations are available?

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Annie had her Tesla at the Bracket Finals last Fall. 500 miles from Seattle/Tacoma to Firebird in Idaho. Desolate country for an EV. I didn't see her rig but I doubt she drove it. Al Young did (Big *** Plymouth).


EDIT: Pacific has had charging stations in the pits for around three years now and hosts an EV race (Silent Thunder). Do any of your home tracks have charging stations?
Electric racers seem to be a thing up and out here in tne NorthWest. The previously mentioned Annie and Her Tesla are a pain for the bracket racers and Steve Huff has the 200mph mark in an electric dragster. Below is a link for an article on him with specs and a video.


https://seatacblog.com/2020/05/16/lo...tric-dragster/


John: There are batteries and charging systems in the pipeline that will put 100 miles in an EV in 5 minutes.