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MR DERBY CITY 01-09-2021 05:37 PM

Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
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Billy Nees 01-09-2021 05:44 PM

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That's not true M.J., in the 70s he voted against de-segregating schools because he didn't want his children going to school with black children. In the 90s he voted against same-sex marriages because it was immoral.
Look it up while you still can!

SStockDart 01-09-2021 06:20 PM

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Got "Corn Hole" as an official Olympic contest???

Chuck Gallagher 01-09-2021 07:13 PM

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No argument from here.
Biden got what every presidential candidate dreams of; being able to run against the only opponent he could beat at the perfect time he could be beaten.
Had to be the luck of the Irish.

Billy Nees 01-09-2021 07:33 PM

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https://www.hutchnews.com/story/opin...tor/115102276/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=_XRnHVht7G0


Pretty much says it all for me!

Rory McNeil 01-09-2021 08:03 PM

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He certainly seems to have a nose for testing shampoo fragrances of females too young to vote.

SStockDart 01-09-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 631538)
He certainly seems to have a nose for testing shampoo fragrances of females too young to vote.

It seems his preference is the new Chinese fragrance..."to yung for yoo"

Paul Sarvas 01-09-2021 08:47 PM

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YouTube can be a wonderful thing...

https://youtu.be/_3djX-XHAcY


pS

Mark Yacavone 01-09-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 631544)
YouTube can be a wonderful thing://youtu.be/_3djX-XHAcY[/url]


pS

I don't get it...Not funny if you have to explain it, either..so don't bother

Mark Yacavone 01-09-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631534)

I get it. Just another one of his bone headed gaffes from the basement.
But he did say it..So where are they ? Who were they? Seems to me, they should have been able to put down DT's complaints..on Nov. 4th. for all the money that was spent on them
Of course, most here realize it was just more total BS and plagiarism of Trump, as was his whole alleged campaign .

Paul Sarvas 01-10-2021 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 631550)
I don't get it...Not funny if you have to explain it, either..so don't bother

Come on Mark. I thought we had a deal? We realists are outnumbered here, ya boyz don't require backup.
I'm just as pis sed as you guys about the election mess. We just look at it differently.

btw, the point of the video is...Stop whining about the election and try harder next time.


pS

Billy Nees 01-10-2021 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 631577)
We realists

Does anybody else on here see the irony of a "realist" quoting Buckaroo Bonzai?

Paul Sarvas 01-10-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631579)
Does anybody else on here see the irony of a "realist" quoting Buckaroo Bonzai?


A predictable turn that happens to every political thread. No reasonable argument, then frustration, then try to change the subject, then a flurry of name calling and personal attacks. What a surprise.


Oh I forgot there's always this.

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631505)
Ken, can we please pull the plug on this?
Either way, I'm done.

pS

Billy Nees 01-10-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 631581)
A predictable turn that happens to every political thread. No reasonable argument, then frustration, then try to change the subject, then a flurry of name calling and personal attacks. What a surprise.pS

I thought that my Freudian Slip video was a VERY reasonable argument. It would seem to a "realist" like me that his videoed statement is far more impeachable than anything that Trump has said lately.
Frustrated? I'm not frustrated, I just don't tolerate foolish attempts at one-sided arguments by people that don't want to find out all of the facts very well.
Have I called you any names? Have I personally attacked you?
Please Paul, as one "realist" to another, what is your "reality"?

Paul Sarvas 01-10-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631583)
I thought that my Freudian Slip video was a VERY reasonable argument. It would seem to a "realist" like me that his videoed statement is far more impeachable than anything that Trump has said lately.
Frustrated? I'm not frustrated, I just don't tolerate foolish attempts at one-sided arguments by people that don't want to find out all of the facts very well.
Have I called you any names? Have I personally attacked you?
Please Paul, as one "realist" to another, what is your "reality"?

I don't agree that a 17 second grainey, most likely altered video is a reasonable argument. Certainly not enough to impeach a president. You have your opinion on the video and I have mine.

If you aren't frustrated, why would ask the site owner to lock the other political thread and say you are done with it?

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631579)
Does anybody else on here see the irony of a "realist" quoting Buckaroo Bonzai?

You're snarky comment about my sig is just a start and you know it.


My reality is all 50 States in our country certified the presidential election results of 2020, all 50. Some states more than once, Georgia
three times, once by a hand count. Several lawsuits (over 60) have been thrown out of court, some by federal judges appointed by Trump. Two cases went to the Supreme Court. Both were thrown out unanimously (sorta) by the court. There were two dissents on one case by Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., and by Justice Clarence Thomas. They issued a brief statement saying they would have taken the case, however they would thrown the case out on it's merits. The U.S. congress certified the electors and counted the votes, after an attempt by, (Law and Order) citizens to disrupt the process and kill a cop. (nice touch). I havent seen you mention that tidbit. Instead you insist on believing wild conspiracy theories that somehow several states conspired to steal an election. I know the 2020 presidential election didn't turnout like you had hoped. But come on man, who's being real?


pS

Jeff Niceswanger 01-10-2021 11:17 AM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
I like who he put in as the head of the NLRB (Video below). The Labor Department had been gutted by Trump. He filled it with corporate lawyers and big shots from wall street. Trump put Scalia in charged. He was a big profile wall street attorney, that helped wall street, but also got several high profile union cases reversed before Trump hired him to lead the NLRB ( National Labor Relations Board which is the "Supreme Court" of Labor) "Walmart verses Maryland". The state was suing Walmart, demanding they either insure their people, or give them enough wages to pay for healthcare themselves, as Maryland was tired of all the Walmart employees getting on Maryland Medicaid and the state having to pick up all their healthcare cost. Or the class action disabled UPS workers suit that was going to make UPS install less repetitive equipment so workers were not ending up with carpal tunnel injuries, Scallia called those types of injury's "poppycock". Or the fact that after filling the Labor Department with company lawyers, three decades (25 cases) worth of precedent setting cases were overturned, reversed..., every single case in favor of huge corporations and against unions. They were working on making the entire country Right to Work. Trump had ask for a NATIONAL Right to Work bill, which is a death spiral for any type of labor organizations, but of course he could not get it through the House. I could go on and no here, how bad he was for labor, but bottom line unions were not going to exist if he got his way. I owe my entire livelihood to the fact that throughout my 43 year career, I was able to bargain for a good wage, benefits, including good healthcare, and a pension. I know that of all the people I race with, I'm in the super minority. I know of about 5 of us guys. So, the question was ask in this thread, What has Biden done? Watch the video, and keep in mind he's been on the side of labor his entire career. As far as I'm concerned, this is 100 percent better than the direction the last guy was pulling us.



https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...fr=mcafee&tt=b

Grey Ghost 01-10-2021 11:47 AM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
He has become a billionaire after a lifetime of "pubic service" (public service definded as the public serving politicians) on a government "employee" pay scale.

He is the Warren Buffett investing (must be a savvy investor because he has never produced so much as a "as seen on TV" widget) mini-me of the District of Corruption.

Billy Nees 01-10-2021 11:53 AM

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REALITY is Paul that 75 million people have been dis-enfranchised and that is going to be a major issue in what the future will hold for this country. Knowing the time and Federal monies that were spent on a 2 1/2 year Hoax by the leaders of your party to bring down a LEGITIMATELY elected President, the LEAST that I expect is a Congressional investigation into the half-a-dozen States in question. In my own personal experience, my Democratic Governor supported by Democratic Lawyers in front of Democratic appointed Judges determined "nothing wrong". This after all of the tall-tales and lies told by these same Democrats over the last 4 years.

You can't agree with a "17 second grainy, most likely altered video" of your man that should have been IMMEDIATELY investigated but you go on to believe the CNN clips and fraudulent comments of "(Law and Order) citizens disrupting the process and killing a cop (nice touch)".

The thread that you referred to IMHO was getting out of control and I didn't want to be associated with where it appeared to be going. The last I looked, that is still MY choice and not yours.

My "snarky comment" (I prefer sarcastic remark but still ironic given the subject) was just that. It wasn't "just a start and you know it". I do find more irony in your comment though. Was it said to try and make me look bad based on your presumed assumptions? Was it said to attempt to ruin me on this site? Ya know, the Democrats have spent the last 4 years trying to ruin some very good men based on their presumed assumptions.

Eddies66 01-10-2021 11:53 AM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger (Post 631596)
I like who he put in as the head of the NLRB (Video below). The Labor Department had been gutted by Trump. He filled it with corporate lawyers and big shots from wall street. Trump put Scalia in charged. He was a big profile wall street attorney, that helped wall street, but also got several high profile union cases reversed before Trump hired him to lead the NLRB ( National Labor Relations Board which is the "Supreme Court" of Labor) "Walmart verses Maryland". The state was suing Walmart, demanding they either insure their people, or give them enough wages to pay for healthcare themselves, as Maryland was tired of all the Walmart employees getting on Maryland Medicaid and the state having to pick up all their healthcare cost. Or the class action disabled UPS workers suit that was going to make UPS install less repetitive equipment so workers were not ending up with carpal tunnel injuries, Scallia called those types of injury's "poppycock". Or the fact that after filling the Labor Department with company lawyers, three decades (25 cases) worth of precedent setting cases were overturned, reversed..., every single case in favor of huge corporations and against unions. They were working on making the entire country Right to Work. Trump had ask for a NATIONAL Right to Work bill, which is a death spiral for any type of labor organizations, but of course he could not get it through the House. I could go on and no here, how bad he was for labor, but bottom line unions were not going to exist if he got his way. I owe my entire livelihood to the fact that throughout my 43 year career, I was able to bargain for a good wage, benefits, including good healthcare, and a pension. I know that of all the people I race with, I'm in the super minority. I know of about 5 of us guys. So, the question was ask in this thread, What has Biden done? Watch the video, and keep in mind he's been on the side of labor his entire career. As far as I'm concerned, this is 100 percent better than the direction the last guy was pulling us.



https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...fr=mcafee&tt=b

Jeff, I am sure you know were I stand on these issues. I came from a Union family, my father was president of his local Steelworkers, I was a member of the Labors and my wife is a card carrying member of the Operating Engineers. Last year she recovered $445,000 in wages snd benefits from non signatory companies that do not comply with prevailing wage laws. She retired from the state of California as a Deputy Labor Commissioner, she averaged about 60 cases a year. These cases involved everything from no workers comp, no overtime, human trafficking etc. I trust this administration with be a lot more labor friendly and more forward with rebuilding the infrastructure of this country.

Randy Wells 01-10-2021 11:55 AM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger (Post 631596)
I like who he put in as the head of the NLRB (Video below). The Labor Department had been gutted by Trump. He filled it with corporate lawyers and big shots from wall street. Trump put Scalia in charged. He was a big profile wall street attorney, that helped wall street, but also got several high profile union cases reversed before Trump hired him to lead the NLRB ( National Labor Relations Board which is the "Supreme Court" of Labor) "Walmart verses Maryland". The state was suing Walmart, demanding they either insure their people, or give them enough wages to pay for healthcare themselves, as Maryland was tired of all the Walmart employees getting on Maryland Medicaid and the state having to pick up all their healthcare cost. Or the class action disabled UPS workers suit that was going to make UPS install less repetitive equipment so workers were not ending up with carpal tunnel injuries, Scallia called those types of injury's "poppycock". Or the fact that after filling the Labor Department with company lawyers, three decades (25 cases) worth of precedent setting cases were overturned, reversed..., every single case in favor of huge corporations and against unions. They were working on making the entire country Right to Work. Trump had ask for a NATIONAL Right to Work bill, which is a death spiral for any type of labor organizations, but of course he could not get it through the House. I could go on and no here, how bad he was for labor, but bottom line unions were not going to exist if he got his way. I owe my entire livelihood to the fact that throughout my 43 year career, I was able to bargain for a good wage, benefits, including good healthcare, and a pension. I know that of all the people I race with, I'm in the super minority. I know of about 5 of us guys. So, the question was ask in this thread, What has Biden done? Watch the video, and keep in mind he's been on the side of labor his entire career. As far as I'm concerned, this is 100 percent better than the direction the last guy was pulling us.



https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...fr=mcafee&tt=b

Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

Randy Wells

Billy Nees 01-10-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger (Post 631596)
They were working on making the entire country Right to Work. Trump had ask for a NATIONAL Right to Work bill, which is a death spiral for any type of labor organizations

What has Biden done? Watch the video, and keep in mind he's been on the side of labor his entire career. As far as I'm concerned, this is 100 percent better than the direction the last guy was pulling us.

Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?

Billy Nees 01-10-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grey Ghost (Post 631600)
He has become a billionaire after a lifetime of "pubic service" (public service definded as the public serving politicians) on a government "employee" pay scale.

He is the Warren Buffett investing (must be a savvy investor because he has never produced so much as a "as seen on TV" widget) mini-me of the District of Corruption.

Hey Paul and the rest of you "realists" on here, can somebody explain this to me?

Randy Wells 01-10-2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631605)
Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?

Good question Billy, Jeff is a union boss.

I moved into the engineering and commissioning side of the industries, not represented by the union. I have fired a lot of people that think just because they have that card in there pocket they are untouchable, and by firing them I was able to keep good hard working members employed..



Randy.

Billy Nees 01-10-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 631608)
Good question Billy, Jeff is a union boss.Randy.

Oops, no personal offense Jeff but still a legitimate question.

Mark Yacavone 01-10-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 631577)
Come on Mark. I thought we had a deal? We realists are outnumbered here, ya boyz don't require backup.
I'm just as pis sed as you guys about the election mess. We just look at it differently.

btw, the point of the video is...Stop whining about the election and try harder next time.


pS

Paul, I honestly didn't get it. I don't know who those people are, or where they come from . "Wambu.... ?? Still don't see the humor.
Cheers

Jeff Niceswanger 01-10-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631605)
Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?

Billy,
I just retired from being the union president (of the plant I'll post.). And I can tell ya, I was not corrupt. We just wanted a fair shake. In 2004, when our previous 3 year contract expired, we were expecting smooth sailing on our future contract. Our company had been spending money hand over foot. They had purchased a cookie company, a cracker company, a ketchup company, a mayonnaise company, and a nut company. Instead of treating us with respect, after all, we helped them buy all that stuff, we were told the company could no longer afford our pension. The trend was to do away with them, and they were going to follow corporate trends. We told them to shove it, and went on a month long strike. Interestingly enough, while we were out on the picket lines freezing our butts off in Ohio's winter, we noticed the Wall Street Journal articles announcing they had just purchased Pantry Chef a few days before, and had paid 500 million cash for it. I'm retired now, because of the bargaining that was done during that strike. We kept our pension and made improvements. Sometimes, you have to stand up, not just quit, which if we were non union, would have happened.
As far a where the money goes, all of our union paying members moneys was split between the International, and our own in house kitty. The International supplied the training for our stewards, and officers, and lawyers for our arbitration cases. (We never lost one BTW.) They also sent a rep to be at every one of our monthly union meetings to answer any questions and to hear the heartbeat and concerns of the local. Our local's moneys paid for all office supplies for our office, printers, laptops ect. and arbitrations, which cost around 5 grand now. I was required to put a monthly meeting on, every month, for the entire 10 years I was president. There were 3 meetings, one at 6am, one at 2 pm and one at 4 pm so all members had a chance to attend.

Mark Yacavone 01-10-2021 12:53 PM

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This is for my friend Jeff.

Anybody that doesn't get it...I'll explain LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1d0hv7bdjw

Paul Sarvas 01-10-2021 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631601)
REALITY is Paul that 75 million people have been dis-enfranchised and that is going to be a major issue in what the future will hold for this country. Knowing the time and Federal monies that were spent on a 2 1/2 year Hoax by the leaders of your party to bring down a LEGITIMATELY elected President, the LEAST that I expect is a Congressional investigation into the half-a-dozen States in question. In my own personal experience, my Democratic Governor supported by Democratic Lawyers in front of Democratic appointed Judges determined "nothing wrong". This after all of the tall-tales and lies told by these same Democrats over the last 4 years.

IMO, most of the disenfranchised voters are that because Trump stated in 2018 and after, over and over again that if he lost the 2020 presidential election it was because the other side cheated and if they are Trump slurpers, they swallowed it. Shame on him. Trying to use the impeachment is changing the subject. Sorry Billy, ain't workin here.The 2020 presidential election results in Pennsylvania have been litigated, counted and certified. If you can't handle it, that's on you. Not the U.S.congress and V.P. Pence.
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631601)
You can't agree with a "17 second grainy, most likely altered video" of your man that should have been IMMEDIATELY investigated but you go on to believe the CNN clips and fraudulent comments of "(Law and Order) citizens disrupting the process and killing a cop (nice touch)".

Ya got me here Billy. I have no friggin idea what you are talking about.
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631601)
The thread that you referred to IMHO was getting out of control and I didn't want to be associated with where it appeared to be going. The last I looked, that is still MY choice and not yours.

It is indeed your choice to stop posting on a thread. However instead, you chose to ask the site owner to lock the thread and announced you were done. Why would you do that?

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631601)
My "snarky comment" (I prefer sarcastic remark but still ironic given the subject) was just that. It wasn't "just a start and you know it". I do find more irony in your comment though. Was it said to try and make me look bad based on your presumed assumptions? Was it said to attempt to ruin me on this site? Ya know, the Democrats have spent the last 4 years trying to ruin some very good men based on their presumed assumptions.

No and no, wtf are you talking about? It is a start of more to come and you do know it. Also more of trying to changing the subject. Most people ruin their own lives. They don't need politicians to do it for them.


Aw man. Now I have a headache after all this copy and pasting.


Nice chatting with you.


pS

Paul Sarvas 01-10-2021 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 631613)
Paul, I honestly didn't get it. I don't know who those people are, or where they come from . "Wambu.... ?? Still don't see the humor.
Cheers

You're right Mark. If it has to be explained then the point was missed.
It wasn't that funny anyways.


Regards,


pS

SSGT Mustang 01-10-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 631603)
Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

Randy Wells

Great post.

Unions no longer have control over their people. Millions of members support Trump for good reason.

Trump has taken labor from the democrats who did nothing but trample on them for decades outsourcing their jobs, importing illegals by the millions, ruining industry and taking away trade schools.

What did they call members when they began supporting Trump? Deplorables, white supremacists and whatever terrible name they could come up with. Funny how they were great people and the salt of the earth before 2015.

The democrats have done the same thing to black people who are leaving the party in droves. They call them every terrible name in the book. It's despicable.

To say that China Joe supports labor is a bad joke.

I love how Union people say that Joe supports labor. He certainly does. He supports China where slave labor is pretty much the only labor they have. So much for looking out for their brothers.

Jeff Niceswanger 01-10-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 631603)
Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

Randy Wells

We support it because of the survival instinct. There's no good choice for us guys. Yes the Democrats are pushing agendas that will hurt the oil industry, but there's a lot more to this battle than one industry.
And I fully agree with your previous statement about firings. Boy could I tell you some stories. The union sit in on new hire interviews, and even with the best intentions, some of our new hires turned out to be real duds. We tried like heck to get problem maker/lazy new hires dismissed before their probationary period ran out and they became members of the union. But our company had a big heart, or sometimes just laziness, and it was tough to get them to unload people. Once they became paying members, we were forced by law to represent them. Our membership did not want slackers, far from it. If one member did not carry his weight, the guy beside him, or even another shift did. The ones I hated most was when one member was against another member. I remember when a fight broke out between a maintenance worker and a production worker. Both of them very good workers. The plant manager came to me and said " This is a UNION issue. " You fix it !

Paul Sarvas 01-10-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 631606)
Hey Paul and the rest of you "realists" on here, can somebody explain this to me?


I really don't like to debate too many post at once but ok.
Grey Ghost doesn't say who is talking about, but I'm thinkin president elect Joe Biden. Who said he is a billionaire? I did a quick search and got this from Forbes.


In all, Joe is reportedly worth $9 million at present, which is significantly more than earlier in his career. This number, from Forbes and calculated in 2019, is based on a total portfolio of $4 million in real estate (Joe and wife Jill Biden own two homes in Delaware), cash/investments worth $4 million, and a federal pension worth more than $1 million. The Bidens released their tax returns from 2016 to 2018, which showed that they paid about a third of their income in taxes in 2017 and 2018 ($3.7 million and $1.5 million, respectively), and that they donated a significant amount to charity in 2017 and 2018 ($1 million and $275,000, respectively).


Wut?


pS

Jeff Niceswanger 01-10-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 631603)
Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

Randy Wells

One other thing Randy, just so you understand, the "Bosses" don't vote. I got 1 vote, just like any other member. You being a member, I assume your International might have had some other way, but all the ones I'm associated with vote by memberships. The entire membership is the only one that approves, disapproves, or votes to strike. The union bosses are the ones negotiating the contracts, and they have the final say in what is brought back to the membership, but the membership decides the outcome and can turn down the proposed contract. Those negotiators are elected, so even that is rank and file decided. There is a lot of misinformation on these subjects, and I like to explain so people get the low down ...It's really amazing to me, when only 10 % of America is unionised, that such effort is put into eliminating what is left.

Grey Ghost 01-10-2021 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 631628)
I really don't like to debate too many post at once but ok.
Grey Ghost doesn't say who is talking about, but I'm thinkin president elect Joe Biden. Who said he is a billionaire? I did a quick search and got this from Forbes.


In all, Joe is reportedly worth $9 million at present, which is significantly more than earlier in his career. This number, from Forbes and calculated in 2019, is based on a total portfolio of $4 million in real estate (Joe and wife Jill Biden own two homes in Delaware), cash/investments worth $4 million, and a federal pension worth more than $1 million. The Bidens released their tax returns from 2016 to 2018, which showed that they paid about a third of their income in taxes in 2017 and 2018 ($3.7 million and $1.5 million, respectively), and that they donated a significant amount to charity in 2017 and 2018 ($1 million and $275,000, respectively).


Wut?


pS

Key word in your post...Reportedly

Paul Sarvas 01-10-2021 05:41 PM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
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Originally Posted by Grey Ghost (Post 631655)
Key word in your post...Reportedly




Okie Dokie...


Whatcha got?


pS

Billy Nees 01-10-2021 06:22 PM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 631656)
Okie Dokie...Whatcha got?pS

Hunter

Frank Castros 01-11-2021 09:30 AM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
What happens with the Hunter Biden story now that Daddy is the POTUS?

Frank Castros 01-11-2021 09:44 AM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
The simple answer is, Mainstream Media will make it go away.

MR DERBY CITY 01-11-2021 11:03 AM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 631704)
What happens with the Hunter Biden story now that Daddy is the POTUS?

Quite simple, more COKE and more $$ from foreign countries. In other words, he gets a RAISE .....and the media TARDLINGS continue to persecute Trump ......

Mike Pearson 01-12-2021 05:23 PM

Re: Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....
 
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Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 631603)
Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

Randy Wells

All of that I coming under the Biden regime Randy. I have lived in Florida my whole life. No one in my family down here is in the union or has been in a union. My dad was nuclear physicist and worked for General Electric, He made a six figure salary. My sisters and I all make 6 figure salaries and only one of us has a degree. Hard work snd dedication is what it takes to be successful. You have to make your boss or company owners some money. That's what make business go. The company I work for rewards their employees for longevity and production. There is almost no union in Florida. The unions here are like a temp agency. Most unions here are catering to the government. Teachers, fire fighters and some police depts., Maybe bus drivers.


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