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Good morning all. I thought I'd start a separate thread with some Covid-19 facts that were provided by my daughter who is an infectious diseases Doctor that works in N.Y.C. She wrote this for me yesterday with the intention of helping to dispel some of the panic and fear. Yes this is a serious thing, but common sense and more knowledge is always a good thing. The numbers are for comparison purposes to the Flu, and you likely won't hear it from the media. I just want all our racers and their families to be more informed so they can make better decisions for their lives. It's a lot of data, but worthy of the time .

Please be safe and let's hope we can get back to racing soon.
God Bless.
Walt

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Sorry folks........ the second page doesn't open for some reason unknown by me. It mainly talks about percentages and how they will vary based on the testing priorities, plus following the distancing instructions, good hygiene and avoiding contact with your face. That to me will be the challenge. How often do we touch our face and not even realize it.
Stay safe.
Walt

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Is this published somewhere so we can read the second page? It's well written and I would like to be able to read the rest of it. Thank her for writing it for us.

Curtis

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At this time your chances of testing positive are .00027%. 80% of those who test positive have mild sysptoms. 12% have no sysptoms. 60% of those that have passed away are 80 years or older.

The swine flu killed 12,600 americans and sickened 50 million. I don't remember any of this kind of madness going on.

Every year 12,000 to 14,000 Americans die from the flu. Doesn't make the news right?

Keep yourself rested and eating healthy. This will be behind us by mid May to early June according to a microbiologist I work with. Just like a normal flu season

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Curtis: I'll have to re-scan it and convert it to a jpg. Then I'll attach it.
Yo Ken had to help me the 1st time around, but I think it had to do with the size. Page 2 is shorter. I have to do this from work, hopefully this afternoon. Thanks for your compliment on my daughter's writing. She's a brilliant Lady and I'm amazed she's mine to be honest.
Please stand by.
Walt

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 610319)

Every year 12,000 to 14,000 Americans die from the flu. Doesn't make the news right?

We have flu shots that keep the spread of the flu down. Imagine what the flu would be like if we did not have flu shots.

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 610319)

This will be behind us by mid May to early June according to a microbiologist I work with. Just like a normal flu season

Let's keep an eye on Australia to see if your colleague is correct. Right now, Australia has 565 cases there, with 111 of them added yesterday.

https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...d-case-numbers

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Hi again all. I'm back at work now.

Attached is page 2 of the sheet I sent earlier this a.m.
Thanks for your interest and stay safe please.
god Bless,
Walt

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 610319)

Shoulda could woulda

Back then systems and responsive leadership were in sync to deal with the Pandemic. We were communicating on a sane basis with other countries and sharing information. We already had a Flu Vaccines out to help people from further infections. The systems worked, few people died compared to the 50 million were affected.

CV19 today the US leadership ignored the issue and calling it a hoax.
There is no Vaccine for CV19 and will not be available for a year.
The Agency that deals with global diseases was shut down two years ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ease-outbreak/

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One of my old chemistry professors posted some information that I think is helpful to understand the differences between this and the seasonal flu. I feel like there's so much out there that's either "This is a pandemic, everybody needs to panic" (but doesn't explain why) or "Look at the number of cases, the flu infects and kills way more people than COVID-19 does each year" (without looking at how fast it's growing from a single source or clarifying how it does differ).

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Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid, like it's no big deal, like all the requests for people to stay home and not travel, did not include you is not cool at all..... You are actually being very selfish.

#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.

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Great post Andrew and thanks for sharing. Hopefully it will be taken to heart by those who continue to believe that this is being over hyped and sensationalized.

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The numbers between the "flu" and COVID-19 are deceptive so here are some stats for comparing Influenza and COVID-19.

Influenza:
cases per year (average) 1,000,000,000
deaths per year (average) 291,000
calculated death rate 0.029%

COVID-19
cases to date 222,643
deaths to date 9115
calculated death rate 4.09%

Please take this seriously.
All numbers worldwide.

Technical Stuff
Influenza and COVID-19 are both a Chronavirus.
Novel (new) Chronavirus, now named COVID-19 is the illness.
The virus that causes it is named SARS-CoV-2

Read Here:https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...019-vs-the-flu

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The scary part is there could be a lot more infected people than what has been reported and they can be moving around the country infecting scores of others.
My nephew was an employee on the Diamond Princess cruise ship and was tested along with all the other employees even the ones with no symptoms. He tested positive and was placed in isolation in a hospital in Japan. During his stay they tested him about 4 or 5 times (he needed two consecutive negatives to be released) After 19 days he was finally cleared and was able to leave the country. He never experienced any flu like symptoms the whole time and if he wasn't tested he would never had known he was carrying the virus. He could have taken it home to family and friends and caused a local outbreak.

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I’m getting my information straight from Doc Hudson (Ashton). He’s on the front lines as an ER doctor. He told me today they need to find a vaccine soon......until they do people will continue to panic even months from now....and yes he has to get into that suit and treat patients with coronavirus. Some have been very very sick..scary stuff people..

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 610335)

Shoulda could woulda

The Agency that deals with global diseases was shut down two years ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ease-outbreak/

You know that funding was restored before that happened right? Your source is from 2018. Facebook might be a better place for that post.

Curtis

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Originally Posted by curtis reed (Post 610396)

You know that funding was restored before that happened right? Your source is from 2018. Facebook might be a better place for that post.

Curtis

Funding was NOT Restored. The Agency was not Reinstated and the People that were fired are working elsewhere at other agencies..

2018 was 2 years ago and there was no logical reason communicated why it was cut. What is stated is BS.

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Good info from WHO

https://vimeo.com/387664679

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 610448)

Dan, I've already told you once, the agency you are talking about was absorbed into HHS. There is NO reason to have 2 Govt. Agencies doing the same thing!

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 610451)

Dan, I've already told you once, the agency you are talking about was absorbed into HHS. There is NO reason to have 2 Govt. Agencies doing the same thing!

Dan just making this about politics, typical TDS Liberal. Most the TDS fake news is hoping it gets worse and that is wrong buddy.

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 610451)

Dan, I've already told you once, the agency you are talking about was absorbed into HHS. There is NO reason to have 2 Govt. Agencies doing the same thing!

Ok site your references...
Trump cut CDC funding, prevented CDC from helping other counties, ended. Gutted the group that handles pandemics..

Tell me BILLY where was it absorbed in HHS.
BTW HHS is a mile from my office...in Rockville Md
Then with bi-partisan support only some funding was restored by Congress..

Why would you cut funding to the CDC and gut whole agencies designed to help us?
Especially designed to mitigate pandemics
Then deny that you did it.
Making comments like People are dying that never died before..!

Trump is like the Capitan of the Titanic.
Warned about the path being taken and the Ice Bergs.
Hits them anyway.
Doesn’t send out a distress signal on the Marconi!
Until way too damn late.
Telling the passengers don’t worry we have enough boats.

Your inconvenience does not trump our counties safety !

Had trump any sense of running a government.
He would have used the DLA designed to help organize infrastructure.

Hey randy ...got your name calling..
Typical response when you have nothing except denial and cult responses..

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 610496)

Dan,
You’re the one that from your very first post on this virus brought in politics, you start the blame game on the administration with your lies, in fact the CDC funding goes up every year and always has that is why are deficit is what 21 trillion, so quit lying. I am not very PC and never will be, so like a typical CULT liberal you can dish it out but can’t take it, surprised you haven’t called me a racist. Your Kenyan President let 12,000 people die with H1N1, where was he at on that, nowhere. Oh yeah this is the Chinese Virus right, or I must be a Xenophobe.

Randy Wells
Wells Bros
C/SA 5034

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CDC budget rose $550,000 from 2019 to 2020. source, cdc.gov.
Dan, I don't care if your office is within "spitting distance" of the CDC.

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 610506)

Dan, I don't care if your office is within "spitting distance" of the CDC.

Actually, not a bit surprised..Anyone else?

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Here's a non-political fact: My daughter has been exposed to it by a VA Social worker that is a parent of an autistic child. She is on a self-imposed lock down at her home. She is a BCBA that works with parents and autistic children. TriCare would not pay for teleconferencing that would have prevented the contact. The bulk of her clients are active duty military parents that are insured by TriCare in the northern Virginia area.

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 610595)

Actually, not a bit surprised..Anyone else?

Isn't their a separate thread for bracket racers and communists?

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An elderly cousin from Throggs Neck, NY has tested positive for the virus. Her doctor has changed some of her meds and she is resting at home for the time being. Hoping that this does not spread throughout this tight-net family.

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I live on Long Island next to nyc. It’s a hot spot here.
PrAying for the best for all involved. I know some sick friends and or their families and
Some are not going to be here soon. Some may have also life changing problems for this virus time will tell.
Building where I work is infected and getting fully cleaned.
Some people will not stay home when they are sick.
Can’t fix stupid.
In terms of working and who does, I
See that 7/11 Dunkin’ Donuts and all sorts of garbage stores are open and considered essential which is rediculous. Along w land scapers.
So who is making money here? Not native New Yorkers.
Who turns out to be essential is ridiculous.
I don’t support these stores.
Today we found out Starbucks is essential.
I hope and pray for my friends businesses who can’t open survive and flourish again.

I look forward to getting to a divisional and watching stock and supe stock qualifiers.
My fav part.

Chris O.

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The latest here and it's interesting

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/06/us/co...nvs/index.html

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I just got sent home 2 weeks cause someone at work tested positive