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Andy Friar 07-10-2019 01:27 PM

5th Gen/ 6th Gen Camaro
 
Anyone know someone that is 6’3” or taller driving a STK or SS one of these era Camaros? Just spitballing ideas in my head and trying to see if someone my size (6’4” 300#) could actually class race & bracket race one of these and not need a roof blister for my helmet. :D Thanks!

Bobby DiDomenico 07-10-2019 01:52 PM

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Depends. Have a friend that is the same height as me (slightly shorter than you) though his inseam is 4" less than mine. He would need a Ford GT40 roof blister in one for sure being so long in the torso, or a really reclined seat! My helmet is really close to the roof in one of these. Go to the next division or bracket race and ask to sit it one. You'll get a great chance to see how your view is restricted. A new Camaro seems to have a big blind spot looking over your shoulder with the roof/quarter panel design.

Rat Raceway 07-10-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Friar (Post 592164)
Anyone know someone that is 6’3” or taller driving a STK or SS one of these era Camaros? Just spitballing ideas in my head and trying to see if someone my size (6’4” 300#) could actually class race & bracket race one of these and not need a roof blister for my helmet. :D Thanks!




I'm 6'8" 290 LBS and been running my 2012 5th gen COPO for 7 years. The 6th Gen cars are much smaller. I did put a set of kirkey race seats in mine to keep my helmet from touching the headliner.



When I picked up my car from Turnkey I asked who was the biggest guy they had driving a COPO. They said "That would be you!" :eek:

GTX JOHN 07-10-2019 03:51 PM

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The aftermarket Seat rule really helps for Plus size Drivers.
The visibility on the Camaro is a problem.

John Nechiporchik 07-10-2019 05:20 PM

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Andy, you have a PM

Andy Friar 07-10-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 592172)
The aftermarket Seat rule really helps for Plus size Drivers.
The visibility on the Camaro is a problem.

Thanks John. I have driven a street version and it was bathtub like, but I also slouched a lot and leaned the seat way back.

Andy Friar 07-10-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 592166)
I'm 6'8" 290 LBS and been running my 2012 5th gen COPO for 7 years. The 6th Gen cars are much smaller. I did put a set of kirkey race seats in mine to keep my helmet from touching the headliner.



When I picked up my car from Turnkey I asked who was the biggest guy they had driving a COPO. They said "That would be you!" :eek:

Thanks Ross. Yeah, if you can ‘fold’ yourself into one, I can too. Just need stretchy fire pants. Ripped two pairs out getting my Chevelle. Less cheeseburgers and ice cream, more walking too. I probably wont every be less than 250 though. Just how I am built.

Andy Friar 07-10-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 592165)
Depends. Have a friend that is the same height as me (slightly shorter than you) though his inseam is 4" less than mine. He would need a Ford GT40 roof blister in one for sure being so long in the torso, or a really reclined seat! My helmet is really close to the roof in one of these. Go to the next division or bracket race and ask to sit it one. You'll get a great chance to see how your view is restricted. A new Camaro seems to have a big blind spot looking over your shoulder with the roof/quarter panel design.

Thanks Bobby. I can fabricate the seat mounts and get the seat bottom 3/4” off the floor, but that only does so much. I would never run a blown version, rather thinking about turning a 100k mile V6 car from down south into a drag car. So I would put in a full cage, but not a funny car cage. And I am guessing I would need a removable steering wheel to get my Dad bod in there. Just thinking out loud at this point. Your idea is a good one though. Take my helmet and ask to sit in one at the next NHRA event I attend.

Andy Friar 07-10-2019 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Nechiporchik (Post 592181)
Andy, you have a PM

I saw it John. I will get a hold of you tomorrow. Got my 11wk old son sleeping on my chest. Georgia, 2.5 yrs old, is sleeping between my legs in the lazy boy...

HR9121 07-10-2019 10:10 PM

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If Larry Hill can squeeze in a Drag Pak I don't see where you would have much problem!!! Lmao!!!!

cmracing 07-11-2019 12:01 PM

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DO NOT get one with a sunroof! I had a 2014, my helmet was against the glass and I am only 6'1". I could lean the seat back, but then the visibility was even worse. Forget about seeing the stock dash while racing, you will need a tach mounted somewhere that you can actually see. I have friends with hard-tops and they have more headroom in them than my sunroof had.

Rat Raceway 07-11-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cmracing (Post 592216)
DO NOT get one with a sunroof! I had a 2014, my helmet was against the glass and I am only 6'1". I could lean the seat back, but then the visibility was even worse. Forget about seeing the stock dash while racing, you will need a tach mounted somewhere that you can actually see. I have friends with hard-tops and they have more headroom in them than my sunroof had.




The seat in the street cars literally will retract down to the floor. I have more headroom in my 13 ZL1 then just about any other car I ride in. Maybe that seat option is not offered in the SS or other models.



Our track wouldn't let you run if the sunroof is open...

Andy Friar 07-11-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cmracing (Post 592216)
DO NOT get one with a sunroof! I had a 2014, my helmet was against the glass and I am only 6'1". I could lean the seat back, but then the visibility was even worse. Forget about seeing the stock dash while racing, you will need a tach mounted somewhere that you can actually see. I have friends with hard-tops and they have more headroom in them than my sunroof had.


I bet. Wasn't planning on entertaining any race car with a sunroof for the above reasons.

Andy Friar 07-16-2019 01:58 PM

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Anyone know of someone running a 10-11MY, L99 Auto combo Camaro in either in SS/FA (light) or SS/GA (natural)? Just curious. I don't see many cars of this era made into 'normal' super stock cars. Rather COPO's and go-fast hood scoop GT's, high dollar build, etc classes. Just curious. The more I look at these cars, the more I get excited about racing one. I could run local to me Pts Meets, GLSSSA races, normal Sunday no box bracket stuff and multi day no box races too. Between all of that, I could race 15+ weekends a year, driving more than 2.5 hrs just 3 times, for the NHRA pts meets, and Indy is the long drive at just 4.5 hrs. With 3 kids total, 2 under 3 yrs old and working 50 hrs a week, that shouldn't be hard to pull off, right????:D

ss3011 07-16-2019 03:50 PM

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Wow , a 2010 Camaro SS has a shipping weight of almost 3800 lbs , that makes quite a heavy car to run in Super Stock GT .

Andy Friar 07-17-2019 01:58 PM

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Wow , a 2010 Camaro SS has a shipping weight of almost 3800 lbs , that makes quite a heavy car to run in Super Stock GT .


Yes, overall it a heavy car. I am not currently planning to run this car in GT at any point in the future. But just for me to learn, does the FGT/G Class min wgt value (3400# minus driver) listed below apply to all cars in that class or just this Camaro specifically? I guess the same question applies to the chart for the SS/FA class. Never raced, sat in or built a super stock car but based on what I know about new cars, I believe I can ditch 400# easy and not cheat to do so. I am willing to give it a shot, in the future with no guarantees of success, expecting to make dumb and costly mistakes (hopefully just not unsafe for me or others) and doing all of the fab, paint, interior, wiring and engine work myself. I would like to build the trans and rearend too. I don't plan on being the fastest car in the country in any class, I want to have fun, try to go rounds, and continue to learn, a LOT! I want to see what I can do, on my own and hope that it helps me in my career too.

Chip THELEGEND Johnson 07-17-2019 06:22 PM

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Come to Norwalk end of August to the NMCA COPO SHOOTOUT. You should get lots of ideas there.
Chip

ss3011 07-17-2019 08:14 PM

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In Super Stock GT you are allowed to run at the min weight of your natural class or the minimum weight of the next slower class , but you are only allowed to remove up to 250 lbs from the shipping weight get to the next faster class , you may not actually get to that classes "min" weight . So if the shipping weight is 3800 lbs and you get to remove 250 lbs then add 170 for driver weight the car is still a 3720 lb race car . My point is that's kind of heavy . The "natural class" and the next slower class is even heavier . I guess if you run it as a COPO with one of the COPO engines you could run much lighter , but if you run in SS GT its going to be heavy .

GUMP 07-18-2019 12:49 AM

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The 2015 is a much better combination......

Andy Friar 07-18-2019 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 592707)
The 2015 is a much better combination......


Yeah, I was noticing that and I was talking to Andrew Hill last night over text, he was saying the same thing. Thanks

Andy Friar 07-18-2019 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chip THELEGEND Johnson (Post 592689)
Come to Norwalk end of August to the NMCA COPO SHOOTOUT. You should get lots of ideas there.
Chip


I was bummed that there was no more D3 pts meets within closer than an 8 hr drive the rest of this year, but this got me excited. Wouldn't ya know, my wife has a girls weekend, that weekend. Maybe I'll drag my herd of Domestic Terrorist children down there for the day, and buy their cooperation with an overnight stay at Kalahari waterpark...Or trick one of the grandparents in watching them for the day so I can go play race cars.:D


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