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t.tosto 10-24-2018 01:47 PM

Man. trans for Stock
 
In light of Jericos decision to ignore us, what options have been tried for transmissions? Any comments on G-Force 101A, what price range? Thanks for any suggestions. TonyTosto 5302

Matt Welker 10-24-2018 02:26 PM

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G-force, they are awesome to work with and have a quality product. We run them in both our stockers. They have used ones on ebay all the time or just call them and discuss options.

Sean Marconette 10-24-2018 02:57 PM

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Tony,
G-Force, Call and ask if they have a trade in. It will be at a reduced cost, plus they will go through it and update it. You can get whatever ratios as well.

Sean

Robert Simpson 10-24-2018 04:11 PM

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Are the G-101A easy to work on? They look like Super T-10 designs. Have never looked inside one.

ssracer3821 10-24-2018 04:26 PM

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We normally run a Jerico but we put a G-Force in our Camaro and we really liked it. Shifted really smooth. Only diffference was that the handle for reverse went the opposite direction and its possible to put it in two gears at once so you have to be careful. I think the guy that bought our Camaro actually has the GForce for sale. Going rate for used seems to be about $2500-$3500 Also you will have to put a different drive shaft in the car - transmission is a different length. We have the Jerico in our Firebird that I think you sold to Dave Edwards - BUT I'd still rather have a G-Force


Hope this helps
Larry Buckingham

Matt Welker 10-24-2018 07:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Simpson (Post 575561)
Are the G-101A easy to work on? They look like Super T-10 designs. Have never looked inside one.

Yes, they are not press fit parts, they are snap ring. You can rebuild an entire trans if you know what you are doing and have the parts in a very short time.

Kenny Bomar 10-24-2018 10:43 PM

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Use to run jerico broke it a few times got a new g force now got it just a few weeks after ordering last February love it !

Nmbr1GMfan 10-25-2018 08:53 AM

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Does Gforce install the Racepak sensors?

t.tosto 10-25-2018 09:26 AM

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Thanks for all the replies, G-Force seems to be the preferred choice.

Matt Welker 10-25-2018 11:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan (Post 575596)
Does Gforce install the Racepak sensors?

Gforce drills the inputs and installs the magnet. We also use a special (non standard) Gforce retainer/register. This retainer allows you to screw in the racepak pickup and it aligns with the magnet.

If you dont have a bell or need a BH, talk to Browell. They can tell you how to set it up, ask for Scott, he can tell you exactly how it works, what parts you need and the new machining on the Browell BH makes install of the trans and racepack sensor a breeze if you have the right/matching retainer for the BH.

The right parts cost more, but it is worth every dollar.

Dana Fitzpatrick 10-25-2018 06:04 PM

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When I was building my 68 Camaro a few years back,I had to buy the entire set up for a stick.I talked with Rob Youngblood and John Calvert,both said without hesitation to run a 101A.Good enough for me.
Matt Welker-what sensor and V-net cable do you run? I had trouble getting a good clutch graph on my racepak sportsman with various combinations of cables and sensors.Went to the picking up the signal off my input,works fine.

Matt Welker 10-25-2018 06:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana Fitzpatrick (Post 575632)
Matt Welker-what sensor and V-net cable do you run? I had trouble getting a good clutch graph on my racepak sportsman with various combinations of cables and sensors.Went to the picking up the signal off my input,works fine.

Clutch RPM Module with Sensor Part No. RAC-220-VP-CL-1

Never had an issue with either car, and we have sportsman systems in both stockers. We have always picked up using a magnet in the input shaft using that part, never tried anything else. Always works, if it stops working, it has probably threaded out and lost the required gap to the magnet, and improper gap will also give you really weird graphs.

With Input and DS speed and a few simple math channels, you should have everything you need.

Wayne Totaro 10-25-2018 06:32 PM

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With out a doubt it is G-Force! Bubba and Paul are Great to deal with. Their stuff is tough as nails.

ALMACK 10-26-2018 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Marconette (Post 575557)
Tony,
G-Force, Call and ask if they have a trade in. It will be at a reduced cost, plus they will go through it and update it. You can get whatever ratios as well.

Sean

I have heard from other racers the same thing.
That buying a used/refurbished one is a better choice

Joe Martens 10-26-2018 10:35 AM

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G-Force! You will NOT regret it!

Dana Fitzpatrick 10-26-2018 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Welker (Post 575633)
Clutch RPM Module with Sensor Part No. RAC-220-VP-CL-1

Never had an issue with either car, and we have sportsman systems in both stockers. We have always picked up using a magnet in the input shaft using that part, never tried anything else. Always works, if it stops working, it has probably threaded out and lost the required gap to the magnet, and improper gap will also give you really weird graphs.

With Input and DS speed and a few simple math channels, you should have everything you need.

Thank you Matt. Sorry, I didn't read your first post correctly.That's what I ended up with,magnet in the input.I started off with the case drilled,and picking up the tooth count on the input gear.

Don Anderson 11-01-2018 09:23 PM

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Liberty Gear 5-speed with the Long shifter.
They will get you the trans ratios you need for your combo.

Ralph A Powell 11-02-2018 07:21 AM

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[

Much better service from G-Force


QUOTE=Don Anderson;576108]Liberty Gear 5-speed with the Long shifter.
They will get you the trans ratios you need for your combo.[/QUOTE]

Nmbr1GMfan 11-02-2018 08:42 AM

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Just looked at the G-gorce ratio chart, impressive.

Don Anderson 11-04-2018 09:01 PM

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Always have had great service & price from Liberty Gear.






Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph A Powell (Post 576128)

Much better service from G-Force


QUOTE=Don Anderson;576108]Liberty Gear 5-speed with the Long shifter.
They will get you the trans ratios you need for your combo.

[/QUOTE]

Mike Mans 11-05-2018 11:38 AM

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Hey Don - Which Liberty 5-speed trans are you running? Any idea what that trans weighs alone?

Mike Jones 11-05-2018 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Anderson (Post 576108)
Liberty Gear 5-speed with the Long shifter.
They will get you the trans ratios you need for your combo.

"Man. trans for Stock"
...4 speed only

Mike Mans 11-05-2018 03:41 PM

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You can run a 5 speed manual in stock if the vehicle came from the factory with a 5 or 6 speed manual. It just has to be clutch assisted, not clutchless in design.

Mike Jones 11-06-2018 07:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Mans (Post 576311)
You can run a 5 speed manual in stock if the vehicle came from the factory with a 5 or 6 speed manual. It just has to be clutch assisted, not clutchless in design.

Thanks Mike,
I don`t know why, but I assumed Tony was running 1st gen Camaro.

Mike Mans 11-06-2018 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 576341)
Thanks Mike,
I don`t know why, but I assumed Tony was running 1st gen Camaro.

Sorry Mike, I was just clarifying for Don Anderson's example - I wasn't thinking about Tony's original post question. Don runs an 80's Fox body that is eligible for a 5-speed where you're completely accurate that Tony (presumably in a '67-69 Chevy) can only run a 4-speed.

Hope that wasn't too confusing!

Don Anderson 11-06-2018 09:01 PM

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Mike,
Aluminum case & tail housing goes about 100 lbs.
Magnesium case & tail housing are 8 lbs. lighter.


I had Paul @ Liberty Gears help me upgrade an old Doug-Nash 4+1 back in 2008 to Liberty`s face plate system legal for my 1985 M/S NHRA Stock Mustang and up-grade the shift shaft seals in the case. I know for Super Stock racer Terry Johnson who went to Liberty`s 5-speed and picked up .2 in his car and made it more fun to drive again.












Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Mans (Post 576285)
Hey Don - Which Liberty 5-speed trans are you running? Any idea what that trans weighs alone?


Mike Mans 11-07-2018 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Anderson (Post 576428)
Mike,
Aluminum case & tail housing goes about 100 lbs.
Magnesium case & tail housing are 8 lbs. lighter.


I had Paul @ Liberty Gears help me upgrade an old Doug-Nash 4+1 back in 2008 to Liberty`s face plate system legal for my 1985 M/S NHRA Stock Mustang and up-grade the shift shaft seals in the case. I know for Super Stock racer Terry Johnson who went to Liberty`s 5-speed and picked up .2 in his car and made it more fun to drive again.

You're right, the 5-speed Liberty Equalizer was a pretty substantial gain for the small motors vs. a traditional Jerico 4-speed. I just weighed our G-Force 4-speed with aluminum case and it was like 97lbs with shifter and everything. Similar.

gmonde 12-04-2018 10:17 PM

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is jerico still in business ?

t.tosto 12-05-2018 02:30 PM

Re: Man. trans for Stock
 
They are still doing business but didn't seem too interested in drag racing trans. business at last years PRI show. Will check this year to see if anything has changed, at least hope in so far as to provide replacement parts. Tony Tosto

gmonde 12-05-2018 07:46 PM

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I called them today ,,I have a dr-4 wide gear trans and looking to see if they still support parts ,, the response was they only support the dr-4 revision 4 only ,I have to get back with them with my serial number ,, how can I tell if is a revision 4?

terry1 12-06-2018 12:19 PM

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I bought an input shaft and a billet release bearing retainer for my
DR-4 about two months ago. No problem.
I believe that when the input shafts are gone, that's it for them.
No sure if the RB retainer will/would be compatible with the
newer DR-4 Rev 4.
I have not seen a DR - 4 Rev 4, so I am not sure what to look for.
I DO know that a DR-4 can not be made into a DR 4 Rev 4; maybe
every one knows that, oh well!!!.
Terry K

gmonde 12-06-2018 08:26 PM

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I have been looking for the serial number for jerico,,is it located under the cover (drivers side top)

joe collins 12-06-2018 09:11 PM

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drivers side right below top cover

gmonde 12-06-2018 09:43 PM

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there is only a casting number on the case 2174f04
nothing that's been stamped in case on the left side ,I checked the trans ear as well

terry1 12-07-2018 09:14 AM

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The SN# of my DR-4 is 4942SCN.
I got this # off of my orig invoice.
I don't have access to my trans so I am not
sure where the SN# is.
I thought this my help in determining if the #'s
you see are indeed SN#'s.
Terry K


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