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Dan Fahey 03-12-2018 12:32 PM

Stocker Roll Bar
 
Live in Montgomery County, MD - Rockville/Germantown

Need a NHRA Certified Roll Bar Installed !

Who and where can I get this done?

Dan

Hacksaw 03-12-2018 01:09 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
You want one of the best? Ken Keir Race Cars.

Lenny5160 03-12-2018 03:08 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Is there such thing as a NHRA certified roll bar?

Hacksaw 03-12-2018 03:26 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 558025)
Is there such thing as a NHRA certified roll bar?

You are correct, there is no " certification " , but there are min. requirements, ie: 1.75" tubing with a min. of .118 on the wall on mild steel as well as proper mounting methods.

Dan Fahey 03-12-2018 04:34 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 558017)
You want one of the best? Ken Keir Race Cars.

Thanks for the information...

Does it make any difference to buy one pre-made or have it custom fitted?

Dan

Lee Valentine 03-12-2018 05:17 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Dan, I've used pre made kits from S&W and had good luck. Make sure the bar is installed as per the rule book.

Hacksaw 03-12-2018 06:37 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 558034)
Thanks for the information...

Does it make any difference to buy one pre-made or have it custom fitted?

Dan

Most kits on the market are .134" tubing to make sure it meets the min. of .118". A quality shop will use .120" or .125" and check the thickness to make sure it will pass. They may have to buy DOM tube, more money, better product.

ALMACK 03-13-2018 11:24 AM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Valentine (Post 558039)
Dan, I've used pre made kits from S&W and had good luck. Make sure the bar is installed as per the rule book.

^^ I agree.

Both of my Stockers have S&W kits.
Very pleased with their quality and customer service.


One thing I did find out after installing the kit in my 2009 Stocker :

If I had special ordered a "relaxed fit" main hoop cross bar with a 2-3 inch set back ( instead of the normal straight piece) then my seats could
have reclined further back. I did not know this until after I installed the kit.

Being a novice at roll bar installations, I can now see why chassis shops charge so much. To fit things right it takes a lot of time

Dan Fahey 03-13-2018 02:29 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 558083)
^^ I agree.

Both of my Stockers have S&W kits.
Very pleased with their quality and customer service.


One thing I did find out after installing the kit in my 2009 Stocker :

If I had special ordered a "relaxed fit" main hoop cross bar with a 2-3 inch set back ( instead of the normal straight piece) then my seats could
have reclined further back. I did not know this until after I installed the kit.

Being a novice at roll bar installations, I can now see why chassis shops charge so much. To fit things right it takes a lot of time

This good information !!

Would like a Roll Bar setup where you can get out of the Seat easily without being Gumby !
Also be able to sit in the back seat.

Thanks

Dan

ALMACK 03-14-2018 11:51 AM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 558094)
This good information !!

Would like a Roll Bar setup where you can get out of the Seat easily without being Gumby !
Also be able to sit in the back seat.

Thanks

Dan

Dan:
here are the pics of the 09 Mustang.
Because the seat back did not lean back to it's normal position, I had to "flip" the head rests...otherwise with a helmet on there's no way I'd be comfortable. I may still cut the cross bar out and install a 2" setback version

Also, I think it may be tough to make it easy to sit in the back seat by following the current rules regarding roll bars. I tried to crawl under mine. Going over would be easier if I needed to.

I do like the fact that I can remove any of my seats easily :)

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Dan Fahey 03-14-2018 12:28 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
[QUOTE=ALMACK;558172]Dan:
here are the pics of the 09 Mustang.
Because the seat back did not lean back to it's normal position, I had to "flip" the head rests...otherwise with a helmet on there's no way I'd be comfortable. I may still cut the cross bar out and install a 2" setback version

Also, I think it may be tough to make it easy to sit in the back seat by following the current rules regarding roll bars. I tried to crawl under mine. Going over would be easier if I needed to.

I do like the fact that I can remove any of my seats easily :)
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Looks really nice.
Like that my cars has 4 Doors..

Changing over to Stock is a pain..!
A Roll Bar is a wise safety item to add anyway.

Adding the last changes planned, document the results.
Will get the car closer to the 12.65 K/SA index.
Typically a 13.15/12.95 car during the season, figure 2 tenths left.
Cold day looking to hit a 12.45, best to date is a 12.65 at Cecil.

A new Stocker Cam should get the car to run 3 tenths under consistently.

BUT first the Roll Bar !

D

ALMACK 03-14-2018 12:44 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
[QUOTE=Dan Fahey;558178]
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 558172)
Dan:
here are the pics of the 09 Mustang.
Because the seat back did not lean back to it's normal position, I had to "flip" the head rests...otherwise with a helmet on there's no way I'd be comfortable. I may still cut the cross bar out and install a 2" setback version

Also, I think it may be tough to make it easy to sit in the back seat by following the current rules regarding roll bars. I tried to crawl under mine. Going over would be easier if I needed to.

I do like the fact that I can remove any of my seats easily :)
===============================================

Looks really nice.
Like that my cars has 4 Doors..

Changing over to Stock is a pain..!
A Roll Bar is a wise safety item to add anyway.

Adding the last changes planned, document the results.
Will get the car closer to the 12.65 K/SA index.
Typically a 13.15/12.95 car during the season, figure 2 tenths left.
Cold day looking to hit a 12.45, best to date is a 12.65 at Cecil.

A new Stocker Cam should get the car to run 3 tenths under consistently.

BUT first the Roll Bar !

D

I forgot you have a 4 door.
Plus you have a body on frame car so it might be harder than a unibody since you have to have things welded to the frame

Lee Valentine 03-14-2018 04:43 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Dan, with a stocker cam, more converter and gear to go with it you'll pick up guite a lot. Good luck with it. Lee

Dan Fahey 03-14-2018 05:04 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Valentine (Post 558191)
Dan, with a stocker cam, more converter and gear to go with it you'll pick up guite a lot. Good luck with it. Lee


Thanks Lee
Hope so..
Right now limited to 4400 stall with the Yank 4400PT in the 4L60E
Figure 5.13 or 5.38 gears with 30 inch tires will help.
Have an 10 Bolt 8.5 inch rear.
Later can upgraded or move to 12 bolt.
Mixed opinion whether the 8.5 is strong enough.

The PCM is limited to 7000 rpm...so need a cam that is all up by 6800.

Dan

Billy Nees 03-14-2018 05:41 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 558192)
Mixed opinion whether the 8.5 is strong enough.

Dan

8.5 is plenty strong enough with a spool and big axles. Big question will be can you get a deep enough gearset.

Dan Fahey 03-14-2018 09:23 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 558194)
8.5 is plenty strong enough with a spool and big axles. Big question will be can you get a deep enough gearset.

By the time I buy the parts and have some install everything.
Might be better to by a whole new prepared rear and bolt it in.

D

John Kissel 03-15-2018 02:01 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Hope you took care of the body mount problems as those cars are Flexable Flyers. We had a '96 SS, nice cars if you have some tools and like to use them. John Kissel K242

Dan Fahey 03-15-2018 11:43 PM

Re: Stocker Roll Bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kissel (Post 558248)
Hope you took care of the body mount problems as those cars are Flexable Flyers. We had a '96 SS, nice cars if you have some tools and like to use them. John Kissel K242

Been part of ISSCA and WAIL groups for good while.
Added body mounts in missing areas a while ago.
Did FFAT at a Summit point couple times and some auto crossing.
Hawk pads with stock calipers did just as well as the Higly rated after market calipers.
For drag racing added a Dick Miller Suspension.
Used Belsteins shocks all around.
The fronts behaved like 70/30 for drag racing.

At ISSCA Nationals would drag race with DOT’s and auto cross putting the street BFG’s back on the car.

Up until a year and half ago would drive to the IHRA, WAIL and S/SS and Bracket Racing meets.
Put the racing tires on to drag race.
Then put the street tires on to go home or the motel.

D


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