How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to events
 

WOW if a person can multiply the number of race entries allowed times say 100 less entries into those races times 25 races the amount of money they are leaving on the table is huge > wonder how the accountants feel about that ?
wow of there were no sportsman in the pits how would a fan feel about the deserted pits look like no one is racing .I wonder what a accountant would feel about that ,say if there were no sportsman in the pits about the lack of money ?? just some questions . during my down time lol:D

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Fans that only show up at national events on Sunday are used to seeing empty pits. They don't care about Sportsman racing. They are there to see the Pros.

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Even if its 65 cars in S/SS, not counting Top`s and Super`s ( 130x330=21,450), the money isn`t going to be easy to replace. If they can shorten events by one day (+20-25% reduction in operations), who knows what that saves. The fans do pay to see the Fuelers etc and if the gate can support it, Sportsman racers could get bumped.
I think stock racers have a challenge ahead with NHRA, the aftermarket and mail order parts. They are in business together, effectively. Harder to find older castings etc., could lead to liberal rule changes. The appeal isn't there for the new generation fans either. They head for concessions and bathrooms for FS/XX.
I doubt everybody that makes partner decisions, are as charmed with S/SS Eliminator as the old timers are.
Just thinking out loud...
Mike A114

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I don't believe that the Sportsman Racers can get "bumped" the way that the NHRAs charter and not-for-profit status is now.

There may be a handful of S/SS Racers who DON'T have a stash of the correct casting number parts that they need to race their combo. That's just a B.S. line put out there by the people who are trying to "liberalize" the rules. And if you DON'T have the correct casting number parts, there's newer combos out there for those to run.

The "old timers" are the ones with the talent, time and money. And (arguably) S/SS are the healthiest Eliminators right now.

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Although we feel the need to forecast the future in a dismal fashion,
today's reality is that we bust ourselves towing long distances to
accumulate Grade points so that we can enter the National Events
that we would like to attend. From a business model point of view,
NHRA'S handling of this is very smart.
It would be similar to telling you that you must attend 5-8 farm team
games before you could buy a ticket to see the New York Rangers.
If the owners thought they could get away it, they would.
Most savvy business owners would. Remember, we DO want NHRA
to remain strong financially and viable in the future. We love racing,
there always be hurdles, adjust and move forward. The Good Old
Days are gone. These are the Good New Days. J.R. Haddad.

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I am going to try and do the Math > 25 races a year times less 100 racers per event at say at roughly $ 400 per racer equals ? a pretty chunk of change .WOW what will or would replace that loss of income is a good question

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Empty pits will be replaced with carnival rides.

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The ARMY has a pretty big one already and will add zip lines, Harley will set up a small pylon riding course (they are in hot pursuit of the millennials), more Virtual racing and of course more DSR and JFR big rigs...they won't even know we're gone. Of course when DSR and JFR departs the big top comes down.

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They just increase the entry and ancillary fees to racers and increase the cost of tickets to make up the deficit! :D

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All of which are way out of hand. That's one thing that is hurting the spectator numbers. Lots of empty seats at the races I have seen on TV.

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If I were 'KING For A Day' idea, what's the problem with offering 80 or more entries for a 64 car qualified field at a National event? Win, win, win !

NHRA, send me my cut via direct transfer, I'll get the account number to ya, thx.

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Bernie,
What is wrong is someone would have to work & be responsible for the field being correct. Good idea for qualifying the field 64 cars from 80+!!

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^^This guy beat me to it!^^ NHRA will just add more b.s. surcharge tax and charge you for it! Nhra the new Verizon.

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Then you would get people complaining about the NHRA ripping them off because they didn't get to run the Eliminator!

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The way NHRA is set up, they're kinda like Unicef or The Clinton Foundation. They take our monies under the premise of keeping racing off of the streets and giving us a safe place to race. They run a couple of "keep the kids off the streets" races a year to fulfill their "not-for-profit" deal and spend the rest of our monies paying their salaries.

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A great Idea > NHRA makes MORE "MONEY" and racers get a chance to race at a national event (racers who don;t have the grade points are helped) and I would think the Accountants would like the extra income topay expenses ,
Stock,Super Stock Super Gas and Super Comp would all have to qualify.
As Bernie Says a" Win For Racers" ," a Win for the Fans" and a Win for NHRA accountants
auto deposit to Bernie's account :)

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I am not really sure what has happened to make the program run at such a slow pace at the national events these days. Back when I started racing 40 years ago all of the classes were run on Sunday with the full fields of 64 cars. TF, FC, TAD. TAFC,PSM, comp, Modified, SS and stock. This was also with a 5 bulb tree. Why is it now they have to get all of the classes down to the final 4 in sportsman so they can get the program done. Is it the TV time that has slowed the program down? The TV is not actually live coverage as they claim it to be. Maybe its because there is more classes. No more modified and comp has very few cars. The addition of the SC, SG, TD and TS plus PM might be slowing the program. I think the low car counts in the pro classes and the lack of quality sportsman racing on Saturday and Sundays at the nationals is leaving the fans feeling short changed for the cost of the gate fee

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How about no burn outs past the starting line as a start? any other ideas to Make the race more efficient from others ?

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NHRA changed the national event schedule about 5 years ago after the rainout fiasco in Houston National. That was the race that had rain saturday and pits were a mess. Racers stuck in mud, could not get cars to staging lanes and everyone complained to NHRA about cancellation.
They instituted the new plan which was to get down to four cars in most classes for Sunday.

About getting done early years gone by, 1985 or so Keystone nationals, Finished running approx Stock super/stock about 9pm, My wife was pissed because she had to work next day and we did not get home till midnight Now I am home by 7/8 pm

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One way to speed it up, you get 45 seconds or less (after the last two cars turn off the track) to light the pre stage. Potentially between 60 and 120 races per hour. Right now it's living up to its name, dragging on.
Mike