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Mark Yacavone 11-17-2017 03:05 PM

Dime Rocket Fantasy
 
What's yours?
Not sure if it would work? Don't quite know how to proceed?
Give me a call. We'll kick it around.
I've got a shop in a small town in northern Az. . Not much going on locally.
602-769-0346
myac455@gmail.com

Alan Nyhus 11-17-2017 03:20 PM

Re: Dime Rocket Fantasy
 
How big a dime are we talking, Mark? -Al

Mark Yacavone 11-17-2017 03:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus (Post 549931)
How big a dime are we talking, Mark? -Al

Hey, I can spend other people's money with the best of them, but that's really not my style.
For someone who's not somewhat hands on , themselves, a dime could easily turn into a dime and a nickle. Probably have plenty of change left from a quarter anyway, though.
I do most of this stuff myself, so that helps too.

Joe Toller 12-23-2018 11:44 PM

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I'll play:
1980 Buick Century 4Dr Sedan
231 V6 with a Dualjet
Fits V/SA at 3250 lbs
Metric 200, access to a cheap Chevette converter (Dacco B10)
7.5 rear with 4.56s, 26" slicks
Stock 60k shortblock, heads (current running/driving car)
1 1/2" headers (Hedman street headers)

Not sure where to start with cam/converter, thinking baseline to just get it down the strip and see what it'll do? Maybe a regrind? What I listed part-wise is what I actually have available right now. Maybe I could get it to the index then upgrade as funds allow, but if nothing else just get it making passes. That was a downfall of my past failures.

Workable? Thoughts/ideas?

nickh 12-24-2018 03:14 PM

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Have my mother's 1998 Mercury mystique v6 sitting here wondering what fwd class it would fit in. Car runs great. Or it is for sale if someone is interested on dime rocket car

Mark Yacavone 12-24-2018 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nickh (Post 578995)
Have my mother's 1998 Mercury mystique v6 sitting here wondering what fwd class it would fit in. Car runs great. Or it is for sale if someone is interested on dime rocket car

The answer is...None .It's not in the class guide. That is the first step with this different stuff.
Two options , right at the top of the main page here.

Mark Yacavone 12-20-2020 11:19 PM

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Here' s two easy peasy DF/S cars

First one is getting hard to find.

94 Cavalier, 3.1 60 degree, 145 hp Stick or automatic. 15.60 index 14's easy enough.

I still see these around here:
99 or thereabouts Monte Carlo 3.1, aluminum head, 155 hp.
Not a lot different than the 3.4 we had.. less cam lift, less compression, and 16 less cubes, but 500 lbs lighter in DF/S Yeah? Time to get off the couch yet?

Billy Nees 12-21-2020 08:37 AM

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Hey Father (elapsed) Time, I thought that FWD combos didn't qualify as "Dime Rockets"!

Dwight Southerland 12-21-2020 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630203)
Hey Father (elapsed) Time, I thought that FWD combos didn't qualify as "Dime Rockets"!

I think you and Doug just proved otherwise.

Mark Yacavone 12-21-2020 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630203)
Hey Father (elapsed) Time, I thought that FWD combos didn't qualify as "Dime Rockets"!

Billy the kid,
I changed my mind, after seeing 90 cents or more go into that Monte Carlo.

Besides, I 've got plenty of D/R's that are RWD, but they're au..au..automatics, and that ain't me.
RWD D/R stick shift cars are as rare as old Escorts.

Billy Nees 12-21-2020 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 630215)
Billy the kid,
I changed my mind, after seeing 90 cents or more go into that Monte Carlo.

Besides, I 've got plenty of D/R's that are RWD, but they're au..au..automatics, and that ain't me.
RWD D/R stick shift cars are as rare as old Escorts.

How about a 77-79 Camaro or some Firebirds With a 305 2V? Watch your shipping wts. and you can make U/S! Got to be plenty of them and Novas around for not big bucks.

Paul Wong 12-21-2020 06:12 PM

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As evident I must like a "slow" V-8 Stick car as much as anyone. Given that if you try to do one on a budget it will be a parts eater. Unless you find something really light or horribly underfactored like a 302 FFFFord. The fox body 5.0 guys throw away good 8.8 rear ends too.

Mark Yacavone 12-21-2020 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630243)
How about a 77-79 Camaro or some Firebirds With a 305 2V? Watch your shipping wts. and you can make U/S! Got to be plenty of them and Novas around for not big bucks.

Nope..too expensive around here. Everything that old is a collector's item.
Parts breaker, anyway..Too heavy...
77 Maverick F-F-Ford...about 800# lighter

Billy Nees 12-21-2020 06:46 PM

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Well Buddy, you're just going to have to hope that someone will donate to you a shoebox Chevyll with a 4 cyl. . It IS Christmas, it could happen!

Mark Yacavone 12-21-2020 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630250)
Well Buddy, you're just going to have to hope that someone will donate to you a shoebox Chevyll with a 4 cyl. . It IS Christmas, it could happen!

Now that would make a difference in my thinking..
Or maybe an 87 notch Fox 2300
No ballast in either one!

Call, if anyone needs my business address ;-)

Tom Meyer 12-21-2020 09:35 PM

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I have a 64 Chevy II four door runs and drives V8 glide, you have to find the 4 banger. It is purdy ugly, someone painted it with a brush. All I what is engine, yes it is a 721 block. Make me a offer. Class Racer were dreams come true. Tom

Mark Yacavone 12-21-2020 10:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 630256)
I have a 64 Chevy II four door runs and drives V8 glide, you have to find the 4 banger. It is purdy ugly, someone painted it with a brush. All I what is engine, yes it is a 721 block. Make me a offer. Class Racer were dreams come true. Tom

Tom, Even a 2 dr. is going to be way heavy. It has to be a 62-63, for the light front suspension, 4 lug stuff.. claimed as a 63 ,for the big cam.
But thanks anyway...

GTOMayhem 12-22-2020 03:38 PM

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Any love for the 82 Firebird or Camaro with the 2.5L 4 cylinder? Hard to find, but I have seen a couple around in the last few years.


Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

Billy Nees 12-22-2020 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GTOMayhem (Post 630278)
Any love for the 82 Firebird or Camaro with the 2.5L 4 cylinder? Hard to find, but I have seen a couple around in the last few years.


Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

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It would probably be fun with a stick but even with an automatic I doubt that it would be cheap.

FED 387 12-22-2020 07:45 PM

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you are going to have to run a SD block and a really good crank and not sure if its an Integral or crossflow head PLUS lots of tricks to make one make power as well as stay together--not a lot of "speed" parts out there anymore unless you can find a sprint car guy that has stuff--FED 387

Mark Yacavone 12-22-2020 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 630285)
you are going to have to run a SD block and a really good crank and not sure if its an Integral or crossflow head PLUS lots of tricks to make one make power as well as stay together--not a lot of "speed" parts out there anymore unless you can find a sprint car guy that has stuff--FED 387

I'd run the SD valve cover if it would fit...Otherwise, I don't believe you would want the other stuff to run in the 15's .
But this IS the fantasy thread.

.Maybe for SS/FC or something...But even there, there is a c.i. limit . I think the Rod Shop Fiero was bigger than 155 inches.

Billy Nees 12-24-2020 09:46 AM

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Merry Christmas! When are you gonna pick it up?

https://southjersey.craigslist.org/c...251548394.html

Mark Yacavone 12-24-2020 11:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630359)
Merry Christmas! When are you gonna pick it up?

https://southjersey.craigslist.org/c...251548394.html

I was thinking that you're a lot closer,...partner.

I'd probably put a T 5 in that one ,and drive it..Too nice to make a "tissue box" out of it.

Tom Meyer 12-24-2020 07:33 PM

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What about a 63 Chevy II wagon know where there is a nice one. I have the original 6 from it, was converted to 5 bolt wheels and 10 bolt. Tom

Carguy49 12-24-2020 08:40 PM

Re: Dime Rocket Fantasy
 
Since this thread is Dime Rocket Fantasy, how about a Dime Rocket Nationals????

Billy Nees 12-25-2020 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 630405)
Since this thread is Dime Rocket Fantasy, how about a Dime Rocket Nationals????

And maybe all 3 of us will show up!

Instead of prize money, the winner gets to pick his choice of all the losers cars! That might keep out the "ringers".
(the way Stock/SS is today, probably not.)

Glenn Briglio 12-25-2020 08:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 630405)
Since this thread is Dime Rocket Fantasy, how about a Dime Rocket Nationals????

Sounds expensive!!!!!! lol

Carguy49 12-25-2020 01:06 PM

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Since this is a fantasy thread let's have some fun.

35 cars show up so number 1 qualifier is important. 1.75 under???
NHRA puts up some big money for the winner and runner-up.
Sponsors give money for first round losers and so on.

I better stop there my brain is overworked.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rseibenick 12-25-2020 01:54 PM

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What is the $ limit on the dime rocket fantasy car?

Mark Yacavone 12-25-2020 02:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rseibenick (Post 630428)
What is the $ limit on the dime rocket fantasy car?

Ron, I think it should be under 10 grand to get it on the track, and then 100 grand ,after 30 years ;-)

rseibenick 12-25-2020 02:59 PM

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Sounds about right.

Billy Nees 12-25-2020 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rseibenick (Post 630428)
What is the $ limit on the dime rocket fantasy car?

I say that the winner gets the pick of all the losers cars as his/her prize! How much are you willing to lose?

This thing is fast going from a "Dime Rocket Fantasy" to a "Dime Rocket Acid Trip"!

Tom Meyer 12-25-2020 09:04 PM

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We do have a few 2 door ECO Cavaliers cars auto and sticks but as I said before how to make time for build. We have done winning dirt cars overnite if we had the cage done. We use to switch stick transmissions in 30 minutes because of gear ratio for different tracks. HHRs also has a different ratio. Tom

Mark Yacavone 12-25-2020 11:38 PM

Re: Dime Rocket Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 630405)
Since this thread is Dime Rocket Fantasy, how about a Dime Rocket Nationals????


I like it..But seeing we won't have a lot of entry money to work with, I'm thinking we should just use donations.
I'll pledge a package of zip ties.. These will be the good, re-usable ones for that last minute pit thrash.
Also, a box of worm gear clamps 1/2" , all the way to 6"
Plus, as a bonus..One sheet of shirt cardboard, some masking tape, and a spray can of paint..your choice of color.
Let's make this really pay!

I don't think we should lower ourselves to just a Wally.
How about MufMan? We'll need a sponsor here
https://i.postimg.cc/fWd2LskF/mman.png

Jeff Stout 12-26-2020 12:38 AM

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1/4 finals to winner can choose to swap vehicles straight across, or except the 10k

Billy Nees 12-26-2020 09:31 AM

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For every competitor who spends under 1K on his/her combo, you get to run on the existing index. For every $500 that you spend over 1K, you lose a tenth of index. Spend 6K? Lose a second of index! Bring your receipts. Now THAT'S a fantasy!

Tom Meyer 12-26-2020 11:22 AM

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Since we have to social distance why can't we use Time slips from a race track nearby with tech and scales to certify the runs that way this could be a nationwide race. You can also use reaction time on the runs so you can't be asleep at the tree. Tom

Billy Nees 12-26-2020 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 630444)
We do have a few 2 door ECO Cavaliers cars auto and sticks but as I said before how to make time for build. We have done winning dirt cars overnite if we had the cage done. Tom

Hey Tom, just out of curiosity, how much "time" do you think that I have in the Cavalier? If I started after dinner, I'd probably be in bed by 11:00. I spent more time looking at a laptop screen and trying to figure out what I was doing than I did on the actual car.

Tom Meyer 12-26-2020 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630465)
Hey Tom, just out of curiosity, how much "time" do you think that I have in the Cavalier? If I started after dinner, I'd probably be in bed by 11:00. I spent more time looking at a laptop screen and trying to figure out what I was doing than I did on the actual car.

Actual working on the car or thinking think what you can do. Gary Stinnett once told me when he worked for WJ he WJ was always thinking even in his sleep how to go faster. How fast do you think WJ would be if he had a stocker? I am sure you do your homework and have fun doing it. Tom

Billy Nees 12-26-2020 07:16 PM

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Tom, you're giving me too much credit. I didn't ask the question with malicious intent. I literally brought the car home and raced it in as-is condition. Other than changing the wheels and tires and removing the P/S pump, I've done nothing other than what I (Doug) did with HP Tuners. It was really that easy.
Now I DID want to "play" with an ecotec so I guess that maybe some thought went into that. Trust me, I'm no W.J.! Not even close.


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