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impstocker 02-13-2016 06:35 PM

Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Putting together my 396/325 BBC for my 1965 Impala. I want to run the Holley carb which came on the 1965-66 396/325 (also with Quadrajet.)

Wouldn't I be able to use aoff the shelf Holley 1850 600 CFM carb? Same Throttle bore diameters and Venturi size as a original Holley.

Would I need to ask NHRA if they would add it as a replacement carb? Has anybody ever tried this?

FireSale 02-13-2016 08:42 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
That's a trick question. There isn't a listed replacement on the NHRA site for that carb. The Holley part number for the one you want to use is 0-1850 and the first paragraph of the replacement carb section of the Accepted Products document reads in part "Holley dash numbers are accepted unless otherwise noted".

Talk to Quick Fuel. They have a long list of carbs that NHRA has approved as replacements and never added to their documents.

There's no listed replacement for the Holley listed on my SBF, but QF has the SSR 585 listed on their documents as an approved replacement. More cash, which I'm out of, but nice carb.

Dale

danoone 02-14-2016 06:57 AM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
I have a 66 396 Q jet core

Adger Smith 02-14-2016 04:13 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Tried to send you a private message. Says your full. Clear it and I will send you some info. Or e-mail me...I can't get the format to post here.

stocker396 02-14-2016 05:02 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
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I personally took and 1850 side by side with a 3140 (the #'s correct for my 66 396) to Pomona last year and Bruce B said No Problem its OK!. You can PM me for details on this app. I already have Dyno'd this carb on a 396/325 back to back with a 3140. Also talk to Scooter Vester at Quick Fuel. He has a approved carb as well.

Dave Gantz 02-15-2016 08:05 AM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by impstocker (Post 495547)
I want to run the Holley carb which came on the 1965-66 396/325 (also with Quadrajet.)

I'm not familiar with this at all. Could you tell me; isn't the Quadrajet bigger?

Jason 02-15-2016 10:13 AM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stocker396 (Post 495678)
I personally took and 1850 side by side with a 3140 (the #'s correct for my 66 396) to Pomona last year and Bruce B said No Problem its OK!. You can PM me for details on this app. I already have Dyno'd this carb on a 396/325 back to back with a 3140. Also talk to Scooter Vester at Quick Fuel. He has a approved carb as well.

Since when does a center pivot dual line Holley get to replace a square bowl single line Holley? Your photo is questionable if that is the 1850 replacement.

stocker396 02-16-2016 12:56 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Yes the Quadrajet is Bigger BUT it has its issues.Bigger does not always mean better. Holley is easier to tune.
As for the Holley, We have run it in several versions. Changing the bowls and metering plates is legal as far as I have been informed. The unit on the engine was the one looked at by tech.We ran in 5 carbs that day on the dyno. If for some reason someone wants to protest it changing it only takes minutes. It is just easier to tune this way. I have multiple carbs in different configurations- Centerhung dual block,Center hung 1 block 1 jet plate, Side hung transfer with jet plate. The thing was to get a tuneable secondary and adjustable floats. After all is said and done it is still 1562 x 1562 /1250 x 1313 and says either 3140 or 1850 the rest just bolts up no different than jetting, the main body is untouched and still legal. I have seen ALOT worse go through tech. Besides the Quick Fuel is legal too, Have you seen that?! It looks 10x better than the swapmeet/ebay stuff we are playing with.

Dave Gantz 02-16-2016 02:30 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stocker396 (Post 495879)
Yes the Quadrajet is Bigger BUT it has its issues.Bigger does not always mean better. Holley is easier to tune.

I understand the easier to tune aspect, but isn't the Q-jet 750 cfm? Seems like a lot to give up. Maybe I'm thinking of a Thermoquad...

5389stk 02-16-2016 02:35 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
dyno tested holley intake 6948, vs 3948 q-jet intake same 750 holley carb on both intakes . 6948 holley intake down 20 horsepower on 425 horse 454, steve

stocker396 02-16-2016 03:09 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
454 is a totally different animal. 396/325 is a small valve/closed chamber/ low lift cam app. Our testing proves the Holley can work. Have not done a back to back at the track yet. Its all in the combination.

Stocker 2 02-19-2016 09:56 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stocker396 (Post 495879)
Changing the bowls and metering plates is legal as far as I have been informed.

Square bowl must remain square bowl, 4160 must remain 4160 according to tech.

Lee Valentine 02-20-2016 07:30 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
I'd say if the Holley out runs the QJet you should have somebody else do your Q Jets

Dave Gantz 02-20-2016 09:03 PM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Valentine (Post 496302)
I'd say if the Holley out runs the QJet you should have somebody else do your Q Jets

That's what I was thinking, but I don't have a lot of experience to go by.

Imp stocker (Will?), have you found the Holley faster? I'm just wondering why you would run a smaller carb, being that the HP is the same with both.

Alan Nyhus 02-21-2016 10:25 AM

Re: Holley 1850 replacement carb
 
Here is the Quick Fuel SSR-585-VS carb that is NHRA approved for SOME (not all) 1.562 throttle plate/1.250 pri. venturi/1.313 sec. venturi applications:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psnbyogogo.jpg

Side hung float bowls and NO secondary metering block. Here's the press release straight from Quick Fuel:

http://www.quickfueltechnology.com/m...qft-ssr-585-vs

It's not listed as an NHRA approved replacement for ALL applications that share these same throttle bore and venturi sizes. And not all the little Holleys are the same for Chevy applications. For example, the small Holley for the '66 327/275 have 1.500 pri. and sec. throttle bores and 1.187 pri./1.250 sec. venturi sizes.


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