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Dartboy 01-08-2015 09:34 PM

John rivers Hemi dart
 
In regards to john rivers Hemi dart. I know the Original owner of that factory SS dart. Was bought by a man by the name of Fred Carr out of the white bear dodge dealer in Minnesota. He raced the car at twin city speedway and set the track record on his first pass. He never painted the car he ran it in the factory primer. Only had the car a short time before selling it. I have specific details on the car and how it was when he drove it home. I was wondering if anyone had any info on the car after john rivers was killed during a drug deal. Was told that his girlfriend at the time sold the car and trailer for 800$. Just wondering what happens to the car or if it's still around

Liteweight 01-09-2015 05:23 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Very interesting info. By any chance would Fred have any pics of it when he owned. Definately more info required

liteweight

Charlie A 01-09-2015 05:46 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
One site (no, I don't remember) said this was the Johnny Rivers car:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=3078038

Dartboy 01-11-2015 12:59 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I think he used to have pics of it. I still have to do more searching. But I can't seen to find anything before or after the john rivers guy owned it

Stewart Way 01-11-2015 01:50 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I thought John purchased his Dart new from Van Dyke Dodge 7/25/68. Was to be picked up at the Hurst lot. I have a copy of the Retail Buyers Order that a man here in Atlanta had with some papers on the 2 darts he owned. I have no way of knowing if this paper is correct. It is a double sided copy with T&C on the back. Salesman was Kevin B and manager was Al Frankin or Franklin or something close. Has the Vin but I don't want to list it here. One of Bobs Darts was owned at one time by Craig Jackson but I don't know which one and Bob is no longer with us.

Terry Witzel 01-11-2015 07:37 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
A while back a guy on moparts said the John Rivers Dart was in Florida and was for sale. The Dart was supposedly called 'Dart Vader'.

68hemiss 01-11-2015 11:42 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 457985)
One site (no, I don't remember) said this was the Johnny Rivers car:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=3078038

From my research, this was not Johnny Rivers car but was Bob Lambeck's
Mark J
68 Hemi S/S Registry

Charlie A 01-12-2015 09:14 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss (Post 458212)
From my research, this was not Johnny Rivers car but was Bob Lambeck's
Mark J
68 Hemi S/S Registry

But I read it on the 'Net. It HAS to be true! :D

Liteweight 01-12-2015 03:32 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss (Post 458212)
From my research, this was not Johnny Rivers car but was Bob Lambeck's
Mark J
68 Hemi S/S Registry

Lambeck had 2 LO23's Mark?

liteweight

Charlie A 01-12-2015 11:19 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Off the Johnny Rivers topic but...Dean Tait himself in this link states his was a "Dick Landy" car.

http://drag.racersreunion.com/photo/img-8674 :confused:

Dartboy 01-13-2015 08:16 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I know for a fact that Fred carrs original Hemi dart was sold to john rivers. Fred only had the car a very short time before he got into trouble and had to sell it.

ww63 01-13-2015 10:20 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 458284)
Lambeck had 2 LO23's Mark?

liteweight

Bob only had one factory LO23. The original owner was John Hooper. Dean Tait had the car after Lambeck. My opinion is that the LO23 car that was owned by John Rivers was later rebodied, this is the car that was owned by Frazer Dante-Craig Jackson- and the last I knew was in Florida painted black. The car had John Rivers and the others on title work and a lot of original parts but sadly in my opinion was rebodied Fred E

Charlie A 01-13-2015 09:39 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
So what about the statement from Dean Tait that his car was a "Dick Landy" car?:confused:

Charlie A 01-13-2015 09:45 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Deleted 'cause im confused!

Liteweight 01-14-2015 01:26 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ww63 (Post 458351)
Bob only had one factory LO23. The original owner was John Hooper. Dean Tait had the car after Lambeck. My opinion is that the LO23 car that was owned by John Rivers was later rebodied, this is the car that was owned by Frazer Dante-Craig Jackson- and the last I knew was in Florida painted black. The car had John Rivers and the others on title work and a lot of original parts but sadly in my opinion was rebodied Fred E

X2

I've seen the car in person, up close.

liteweight

lo23m8b 12-31-2018 02:43 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I bought the Hemi Dart from John Rivers. Any questions?

Charlie A 12-31-2018 06:04 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lo23m8b (Post 579396)
I bought the Hemi Dart from John Rivers. Any questions?

Give it time. I am certain there will be questions.
Welcome to the forum. There is always room for someone with history and memories here.

Charlie A 01-02-2019 07:55 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Ok.... I’ll ask for any history or comment you have on this car. This forum has become a history lesson. Please contribute first hand knowledge. THAT is the best kind !
Thanks in advance

lo23m8b 01-02-2019 11:54 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I purchased it in about 1977. Drag raced it and street raced it. Had a lot of fun with it but I was always paranoid about street driving it mainly if someone leaned on one of the doors. I removed the hemi when I purchased it and swapped in the one from my hemi roadrunner. Left on the inlines and drove it around and even drove it back and forth to work. There's been a LOT of stories on this car and believe me everyone had to get there share of $$$. That not what I owned/sold it for. It's a shame how everyone knows better than me. This whole thing really irritate me. I guess I'll just stop now. Thanks for your interest.

Charlie A 01-03-2019 08:36 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Appreciate the response. Any pictures from when you owned it?
Post up or contribute when you choose.

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psde0e14b2.jpghttp://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psda5da0ca.jpg

lo23m8b 01-05-2019 12:12 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Hi again. When I purchased it looked exactly the same in the picture with the 11.10 on it. The first think I did was sand off his name and the fist on rear of the quarter panels lol. I eventually sanded everything off of it. I do have some pictures somewhere when (if) I get the time I'll dig them out and post some. Man those were the days. What part of the country are you from?

hemitime 01-06-2019 07:49 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
What year did you sell it ,who did you sell it to? Did it eventually get crashed?

lo23m8b 01-07-2019 10:39 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I found a few pics but I don't know how to post them. I'll try to figure it out.

lo23m8b 01-07-2019 04:57 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Hi again. Could you give me some info on how to post pictures. Thank you.

Charlie A 01-07-2019 08:44 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Scan them to your computer. Then you can upload them as an attachment or copy and paste them . It sounds like French to me to until I figured it out. Lol

Terry Drinkwater 01-08-2019 10:10 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I just text 'em to Charlie and let him figure it out!:D

Charlie A 01-08-2019 09:34 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Drinkwater (Post 579851)
I just text 'em to Charlie and let him figure it out!:D

Yes you did. Lol

X-TECH MAN 01-09-2019 12:24 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I saw an orange 68 Hemi Dart at the Mecum auction his past weekend in Fla. . Probably a clone but it was a GOOD clone. Its was closed up so I could not see all of what I wanted to see. It was a street driver with under the dash A/C in it....LOL.

Charlie A 01-09-2019 08:47 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 579951)
I saw an orange 68 Hemi Dart at the Mecum auction his past weekend in Fla. . Probably a clone but it was a GOOD clone. Its was closed up so I could not see all of what I wanted to see. It was a street driver with under the dash A/C in it....LOL.

I googled that one. Cloth bucket seats and A/C! That would be one bad *** cruiser!
And the Hemi orange paint looked killer.


https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/fl01...?1544571806000

X-TECH MAN 01-10-2019 02:42 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 580005)
I googled that one. Cloth bucket seats and A/C! That would be one bad *** cruiser!
And the Hemi orange paint looked killer.

https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/fl01...?1544571806000

That's it. It looked good !

Charlie A 01-10-2019 04:15 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Back to the topic...sort of.
Anyone know what the ride with the cut down windshield is? Its barely visible.


http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps792d1c28.jpg

Charlie A 01-10-2019 04:18 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...2&d=1318772183

lo23m8b 01-10-2019 08:12 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Damn that's more pictures than I've seen of it before I bought it.

Charlie A 01-10-2019 08:40 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lo23m8b (Post 580084)
Damn that's more pictures than I've seen of it before I bought it.

Lol. I sell real estate. When there is nothing or no one in my office
( happens more than I wish it did) I start looking around the net to see what others have posted . I find stuff in strange places.

68hemiss 02-21-2019 08:28 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 458231)
But I read it on the 'Net. It HAS to be true! :D

Charlie, I don't remember what I was commenting on here but it looks like I was saying that the Dean Tait Dart was Lambecks not Johnny Rivers.

68hemiss 02-21-2019 08:31 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
oops wrong discussion

Charlie A 02-21-2019 11:28 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss (Post 583141)
oops wrong discussion

For the record, I went back to that quote. I was poking fun at the info I found. So much “truth” on the net you never know what is out there you never know what’s real or fake.

lo23m8b 11-30-2019 12:06 AM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Hey Charlie you still out there?

Charlie A 12-01-2019 09:18 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
I have been told I am “way out there”😎😂
Still hangin’ around.

lo23m8b 12-21-2019 11:56 PM

Re: John rivers Hemi dart
 
Just was wondering. I'm kind of out there too.


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