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Jim Hanig 09-02-2013 06:55 PM

4gc carb
 
Anyone care to share the trick to make this carb work in a wheel stand.? I have tryed most every thing more fuel pressure 13# and down to 9# 5 degrees to 10. open spacers 4 hole 1 inch to 13/4 all i can get under the hood .If I tie the car down then it spins. Will do it off the ft brake or trans brake, SMALL BLK 327 250HP. 3200lbs 5.38 2.52 92 inch 10.5 raidail tHE ENGINE JUST QUITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE Wheel stand drops like a ton bricks . So far 1 broken trans case 1 broken oil pan. 1 bent set of headers. I have limters on the ft and wheelie bars. Its not the wheel stand just that the motor quits. A small holley it goes right down the track. I have 2 carbs 1 Deno 1 Prc they both do it. Help.

Jeff Lee 09-02-2013 07:20 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Retard the timing on launch. Doing so, you might run faster with just the timing retarded and / or the front tied down. The cheapest / easiest solution that pops up in my pea brain.

james schaechter 09-02-2013 07:22 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Wedge Spacer?

Bob Gullett 09-02-2013 09:15 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hanig (Post 397813)
Anyone care to share the trick to make this carb work in a wheel stand.? I have tryed most every thing more fuel pressure 13# and down to 9# 5 degrees to 10. open spacers 4 hole 1 inch to 13/4 all i can get under the hood .If I tie the car down then it spins. Will do it off the ft brake or trans brake, SMALL BLK 327 250HP. 3200lbs 5.38 2.52 92 inch 10.5 raidail tHE ENGINE JUST QUITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE Wheel stand drops like a ton bricks . So far 1 broken trans case 1 broken oil pan. 1 bent set of headers. I have limters on the ft and wheelie bars. Its not the wheel stand just that the motor quits. A small holley it goes right down the track. I have 2 carbs 1 Deno 1 Prc they both do it. Help.

You have PM

Ed Carpenter 09-02-2013 10:02 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
I run a Deano 4gc with a heads up spacer. 7 psi leaving at 9000 in the air never a problem. This is the angle spacer. I was told you cant run a flat spacer with a 4gc.

Jim Hanig 09-02-2013 10:37 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 397865)
I run a Deano 4gc with a heads up spacer. 7 psi leaving at 9000 in the air never a problem. This is the angle spacer. I was told you cant run a flat spacer with a 4gc.

As I said have wedge spacer ran fuel psi where Deno told to start.I dont have hood cl for more than 13/4 inchs

Jeff Lee 09-03-2013 02:13 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
You can angle mill the carb flange as well as running a wedge spacer.

james schaechter 09-03-2013 05:27 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
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Maybe try lowering the float a bit. I tend to run the float in the 4gcsin my sticker just a bit lower than Deano has them set.

One thing that the guy from Product Engineering mentioned to me once had to do with fuel regulator mounting position. At the time, he was talking Q Jets, but his concern was a fuel regulator being mounted ahead of the carb. He said the g force of the launch could hit the needle on the launch and blow it off of the seat.

Our stocker would leave pretty high in J Stick at 7200 with no issues. Stock manifold with no wedge, just felpro base gaskets.

Tony Curcio 09-03-2013 08:01 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Try lowering the fuel pressure even more, as low as 4 or 5 lbs. It works for Q-Jets.

I know it sounds backward, but what have you got to lose?

1320racer 09-03-2013 08:08 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hanig (Post 397813)
tHE ENGINE JUST QUITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE Wheel stand drops like a ton bricks .

typically high float(s)

Jim Hanig 09-04-2013 10:26 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 397886)
You can angle mill the carb flange as well as running a wedge spacer.

Really, I did not think you could modify the carb?

Dion Hildebrandt 09-04-2013 10:52 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hanig (Post 398165)
Really, I did not think you could modify the carb?

Angle mill the flange on the intake manifold

Jim Hanig 09-05-2013 10:03 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 397895)
typically high float(s)

If you knew anything about the 4gc wouldnt make that remark.

Tom Meyer 09-06-2013 08:54 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Jim are you back in Puk?

Jim Hanig 09-06-2013 09:21 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 398696)
Jim are you back in Puk?

Yes sir been back for a couple of months,This carb thing ,if it is the carb,has me baffled.

Jim Hanig 09-06-2013 09:24 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dion Hildebrandt (Post 398172)
Angle mill the flange on the intake manifold

Try that on a victor e. Let me know how it works out.not much pad their.

Jim Hanig 09-06-2013 09:26 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 397820)
Wedge Spacer?

How much I have tried A 5 7AND 10 Degrees.

Tom Meyer 09-07-2013 11:38 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
If you are going to thunder valley I mite be able to come up with a couple of things for you to try. Tom

Dean Oliver 09-07-2013 03:59 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Jim,

Call me if you want to talk about this again. Have you tried everything we discussed previously? If this is a carb problem, we can solve it.

Dean

Jim Hanig 09-07-2013 05:22 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 398758)
If you are going to thunder valley I mite be able to come up with a couple of things for you to try. Tom

Yes plan to be their the first day at least.

Jim Hanig 09-07-2013 05:33 PM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Oliver (Post 398780)
Jim,

Call me if you want to talk about this again. Have you tried everything we discussed previously? If this is a carb problem, we can solve it.

Dean

Dean what is a good time, the carb you did for me has weight on it, yes I tried the fuel pressure 10 10.5 11. 13. No help I have a 10 degree that is about 9 on the car this is a open spacer. Also a 7 tapered 1.75 , and have tryd 9 degree1inch open with the tapered 1.5 on top.None of these seam to make any change.? I have found a wedge float i will try next wk .

Jim Hanig 09-16-2013 12:51 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Oliver (Post 398780)
Jim,

Call me if you want to talk about this again. Have you tried everything we discussed previously? If this is a carb problem, we can solve it.

Dean

It was a gasket.Thanks to Gene B Who took the time to look it for me and came up with a fix. not the floats, not the fuel pressure, not a wedgespacer.

james schaechter 09-16-2013 05:32 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Thanks for the update. Not very often do we get a cure posted. Was it a torn top gasket or?

Jim Hanig 09-17-2013 10:00 AM

Re: 4gc carb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 400165)
Thanks for the update. Not very often do we get a cure posted. Was it a torn top gasket or?

There are 2 types of upper gaskets and for some reason this carb wants the closed one. Again thanks to Gene for his help.


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