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Charlie A 11-03-2012 10:09 AM

Sedan Deliveries
 
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/DSC02091.jpg

Found this on the HAMB.
I NEVER knew Pontiac built a sedan delivery.

Hemi Moose 11-03-2012 01:58 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
You sure don't see to many of those old sedan deliveries around anymore, but there used to be a ton of them back in the junior stock days...anyone here want to guess whose old sedan delivery this was.

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/DSC00212.jpg

Dennis P Chapman 11-03-2012 04:35 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 354786)
You sure don't see to many of those old sedan deliveries around anymore, but there used to be a ton of them back in the junior stock days...anyone here want to guess whose old sedan delivery this was.

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/DSC00212.jpg

George Curton

Wayne W 11-04-2012 12:22 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 354769)
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/DSC02091.jpg

Found this on the HAMB.
I NEVER knew Pontiac built a sedan delivery.

It's a Canadian Pontiac (Chevrolet) and would have been 283 powered like this 57.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r.../57Pontiac.jpg

And under the hood was probably a 220 hp 283 Pontiac engine . Here's an underhood pic of a 57.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...57/Pontiac.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r.../57Engines.jpg


Here's a 56.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...ize_resize.jpg

ss wannabee 11-04-2012 01:17 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Wow, these are certainly "firsts" for me!

One item I noticed missing in the powertrain lineup is the "base" V-8 engine for '57
here in the States, the 265/162 hp 2-bbl.

Believe it was the combo in the Neja Bros. wagon....

Rich Biebel 11-04-2012 08:13 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
I never knew about those Canadian Pontiac sedan deliveries either...

The Pontiac Safari wagons were pretty std wagons and they did build some in '57 that were similar to a Chevy Nomads......I used to see one in my town and wanted to buy it to make into a tow vehicle.

My first car was a hand me down 55 Pontiac.....

Wayne W 11-04-2012 09:44 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss wannabee (Post 354877)
Wow, these are certainly "firsts" for me!

One item I noticed missing in the powertrain lineup is the "base" V-8 engine for '57
here in the States, the 265/162 hp 2-bbl.

Believe it was the combo in the Neja Bros. wagon....

I'm not sure if the 265 was offered in 57 Pontiacs. GM must have used the Chevy facts in their info because the Pontiacs had a 261 6 cyl engine and not the 235 .

Wayne W 11-04-2012 09:51 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 354885)
I never knew about those Canadian Pontiac sedan deliveries either...

The Pontiac Safari wagons were pretty std wagons and they did build some in '57 that were similar to a Chevy Nomads......I used to see one in my town and wanted to buy it to make into a tow vehicle.

My first car was a hand me down 55 Pontiac.....

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...MC-SD1-214.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r230/BobW57/P2.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r230/BobW57/P1.jpg

Rich Biebel 11-04-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
This must be where the idea of putting a "hydro" behind a Chevy in a sedan delivery came from originally. Ads like that kind of linked GMC with passenger type cars.....and engines and transmissions got interchanged...

I can recall the logic when me and my racing partner first built our '57 Chevy sedan delivery in about 1965.....Sedan deliveries were "trucks"......Add a truck trans behind a Chevy HP engine.......must be legal and NHRA OK'ed it for a few years........Just like the over the counter stuff they also allowed....and 4 speeds in cars that never came with them....

GMC trucks mixed and matched engines and transmissions....

We had a '58 or '59 GMC ramp truck that we built from one we found laying dormant in the backyard of a truck shop.....We re-built this truck in 1969 to haul our Chevy II stocker...

It had a Pontiac engine in it......330 something cubic inch sidedraft 2 barrel with a manual trans.....

I drove that old tanker to a lot of tracks in 1970-1971....The engine was pretty strong. after I swapped a new style carb on it.....Never any problem with it.....

Wayne W 11-04-2012 12:16 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Lots a neat stuff out there. You should have tried getting an original 1966 Malibu SS 283 car through tech. They tried telling me SS cars were all Big Block powered. :confused: In 1976 Larry Lombardo took a second look, I guess he had never saw one. :)

Charlie A 11-04-2012 12:18 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
The Hydro was allowed because it was available in the trucks and commercial Chevys and the sedan delivery was marketed as a commercial vehicle.

Crossing the boundries between production "passenger" engines available and the "commercial vehicle" transmission made for some crazy combinations in the sedan deliveries.

Now that was a rule stretcher idea that worked......for a while.

Hemi Moose 11-04-2012 03:35 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 354816)
George Curton

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...061/56001a.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...orgeCurton.jpg

Hemi Moose 11-04-2012 04:30 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Here are a few more I found on that old Pontiac sedan delivery Charlie posted...

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/DSC02091.jpg

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/DSC02078.jpg

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/DSC02074.jpg

Fred Rice 11-04-2012 05:08 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
An Old Warrior....Owned at one time by Joe Huestis of Carolina Class Racers.


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...andelivery.jpg

Fred Rice 11-04-2012 05:13 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Taken at Dover Dragstrip...Liguori & Weighall......whoops this is a station wagon.


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...I-WEIGHALL.jpg

Fred Rice 11-04-2012 05:20 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/TAZcgass.jpg

Rich Biebel 11-04-2012 06:53 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4318


I don't know how to post the picture directly....

Indy 1966.......
I/SA r/up.......Not bad for two teenagers


Take note of the rear windows.......
It was a NJ Bell Telephone service truck.....
It had to have rear windows to be allowed to drive on the NJ Parkway.....
Even today NO commercial vehicles are allowed to drive on some roads in this area.
Some Parkways in New York....

Charlie A 11-04-2012 09:28 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Here ya go:

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4318

Charlie A 11-04-2012 09:49 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Another steal from the H.A.M.B.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...9&d=1225396529

Tom Goldman 11-06-2012 12:00 PM

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Lots of National Records from this one.

Hemi Moose 11-06-2012 08:15 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Here's one of the Mr. Zip '57 Chevy sedan delivery...

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...57-MRZIP-2.jpg

ss wannabee 11-08-2012 10:30 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Rice (Post 354941)
Taken at Dover Dragstrip...Liguori & Weighall......whoops this is a station wagon.


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...I-WEIGHALL.jpg

Glad you posted it anyway! That car looks like the ol' Val Hedworth wagon he ran in
the closing years of the "old" Stock Elim...and later as a SS/V class car. Anybody here
know if L & W bought the car from Val...or did they make a "clone"?

ss wannabee 11-08-2012 10:49 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 355272)
Here's one of the Mr. Zip '57 Chevy sedan delivery...

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...57-MRZIP-2.jpg

Hey Wayne W....is this your car?

Did you create the Zip Products restoration parts company? Are you still involved
there today?

I know that the company specialized in Corvette parts initially...then branched out into
muscle car parts also. Today it looks like Corvette only...

A friend of mine bought a set of the repo chrome-plated fuel lines from you for his 409
2 x 4 bbl. restoration many years ago....

Wayne W 11-08-2012 10:59 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss wannabee (Post 355483)
Hey Wayne W....is this your car?

Did you create the Zip Products restoration parts company? Are you still involved
there today?

I know that the company specialized in Corvette parts initially...then branched out into
muscle car parts also. Today it looks like Corvette only...

A friend of mine bought a set of the repo chrome-plated fuel lines from you for his 409
2 x 4 bbl. restoration many years ago....

Nope, it's not me.

ss wannabee 11-09-2012 12:21 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne W (Post 355562)
Nope, it's not me.

Sorry, thought you might have been Mr. Walker....

Hemi Moose 11-09-2012 02:25 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Here's another one, a '56 Chevy called 'Yoo Hoo Too' but I can't tell if it was a station wagon with the windows painted over, or if it was a sedan delivery...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67...72585-0002.jpg

Dwight Southerland 11-09-2012 11:02 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Yoo Hoo Too was definitely a SD. This was the car that gained attention to the Jesel Brothers, which has eventually ended up with the Jesel valve train business.

Jim Cimarolli 11-09-2012 12:56 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 355591)
Yoo Hoo Too was definitely a SD. This was the car that gained attention to the Jesel Brothers, which has eventually ended up with the Jesel valve train business.

Dwight, was that car brown first, then blue and white, or vice-versa?

Rory McNeil 11-09-2012 02:37 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Did anybody race Ford Sedan Deliverys in Jr Stock back in the 60`s? From 1973 until 1986 I owned and occasioanlly raced a pair of 57 Ford Sedan Delivery street cars, but I don`t recall seeing any Ford SDs in the older drag race magazines from the Jr. Stock era. Of course it doesn`t seem that there were very many Fords of any form racing back then.

Hemi Moose 11-09-2012 02:52 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Here's a couple of old shots of an early Ford station wagon...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...3QUBMnX_ph.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...uxe/57ford.jpg

Hemi Moose 11-09-2012 03:02 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Here's one of the 'Jumpin Jack Flash' Chevy sedan delivery in the background...

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=1559

Geerhead55 11-09-2012 04:08 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Where?? All I see is the Playboy bunnie!
Danny Durham

Charlie A 11-09-2012 04:20 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 355615)
Where?? All I see is the Playboy bunnie!
Danny Durham

Nice bodywork there.
No rust in those "lower quarters".

Hemi Moose 11-09-2012 04:29 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli (Post 355598)
Dwight, was that car brown first, then blue and white, or vice-versa?

You are probably talking about this one...

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1917/waynejesel2.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7599/waynejesel02.jpg

Charlie A 11-09-2012 06:23 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
So....how much did they move the rear wheels forward on that 56 Delivery and get by with it?
Looks like a couple of inches from here?

mcink 11-09-2012 08:16 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...N57/img267.jpg

Charlie A 11-09-2012 11:28 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1269953808

doolie 11-09-2012 11:41 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 355621)

That is a VERY early photo, before the Yoo Hoo chocolate drink sponsorship.

Hemi Moose 11-14-2012 12:06 AM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 355633)
So....how much did they move the rear wheels forward on that 56 Delivery and get by with it?
Looks like a couple of inches from here?

I didn't really notice that until you pointed it out...wonder if any others did the same thing or used any other 'tricks' in junior stock.

Hemi Moose 11-15-2012 11:33 PM

Re: Sedan Deliveries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 355184)
Lots of National Records from this one.

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=5967

Tom, would you have anymore info & stories on Jack Troxell '56 Sedan Delivery....is the car still around.


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