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brent flynn 09-10-2012 10:58 PM

vega steering box...
 
Who is running a vega steering box on their '68 Camaro/Firebird? and will the one out of jegs work ok? Will i need the pitman arm, as well? THanks!


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555-60750
Vega Steering Box
22:1 Steering Ratio
5/8"-36 Spline Input Shaft
Intended for use in vehicles weighing 2500 lbs. or less
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Vega Pitman Arm
6" Center to Center
Large End: 1" Dia. x 36 Spline
Small End: 0.600" Dia. with 4° Tapper
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brent flynn 09-11-2012 06:10 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
207 look sees and no answers? hehe... somebody help a dude out...hehe
I want to buy one, just want to make sure its a direct swap...Thanks!

L78 Nova 09-11-2012 06:17 PM

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For what I know...spline size on the Vega box is different. You will have to fab a pitman arm. Box is smaller so the rag joint will come up short too so you would have to fab something there as well.
Gary

Tod Lane 09-11-2012 06:31 PM

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Don't think that box is rated for the weight of that Camaro...

An S10 box may be a better option.

brent flynn 09-11-2012 06:58 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
i figured i'd need the pitman arm... i wasnt sure if it was basically a direct swap... sounds more trouble than its worth... i figured it'd be ok to be used on a drag car... was lookin for more header clearance...

MEXJOE 09-11-2012 07:23 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
Hi
I was going to try one of those but was talked out of it by a fellow racer who had one fail
( brake off the frame)
and it caused him to crash his car in to the wall.
I don't think it was worth it.
Just my 2 Penny's worth..

Quote:

Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 345975)
i figured i'd need the pitman arm... i wasnt sure if it was basically a direct swap... sounds more trouble than its worth... i figured it'd be ok to be used on a drag car... was lookin for more header clearance...


brent flynn 09-11-2012 09:42 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MEXJOE (Post 345982)
Hi
I was going to try one of those but was talked out of it by a fellow racer who had one fail
( brake off the frame)
and it caused him to crash his car in to the wall.
I don't think it was worth it.
Just my 2 Penny's worth..

Well, i doubt thats what i'll do... i probably stick with the camaro box that i have... THe headers i have are pretty tight(hedman Huslers), but gonna switch to Mad Dogs, which i believe will fit better... Huslers arent legal for stock(plates)...

chris ok 09-11-2012 10:28 PM

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I would love to hear more about this S 10 manual steering and a pitman arm and any info you can pass on boxin a first gen F body. This is a 1967 Camaro I am working on. We are starting w a power box n pump and looking to remove it.
Car in body shop n will be home prob sooner then later.
Chris.

L78 Nova 09-11-2012 11:03 PM

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http://www.flamingriver.com/index.ph...s0007/FR1500BS

Flaming new Vega box with X body conversion pitman... Light but not recommended for big wheelies.

Local guy broke an aluminum version of the Vega box on a big wheelstand.... I also have an aluminum Vega one but I'm too nervous to try it. My car barely pulls the tires.
Gary

FrankM 09-12-2012 06:22 AM

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Check these guys out http://www.borgeson.com/
Jegs carries there stuff. My 3rg gen had the s10 box on it but the wrong pitman. I called their service and they were very helpful. They had a direct fit. Hope it helps.

Mike Pearson 09-12-2012 07:43 AM

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I had a set of headmans on my car. I ground on the steering box to give a little more clearance. No issue with the hooker pipes I have on the car now. I did lower the box on the frame a bit to make clearance between the drag link and the pan.

tj310 09-12-2012 08:39 AM

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We used to run Vega boxes on stock cars 30 years ago because they had a tighter ratio and were cheap and easy to find. I know I broke 1 when I hit the wall but I don't see a wheelie putting a big load on a steering box. Gotta be as strong as a Pinto rack and peanut. ---Trevor

billy wilson 09-12-2012 02:01 PM

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Flaming River has everything you need to make the conversion.

cicero819 09-12-2012 04:18 PM

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Se Quay race cars has everything and also Flaming River.

Mike Taylor 3601 09-12-2012 06:26 PM

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Had flaming river alum. vega broke in half on second pass when let off gas @ 1/8 mi.
I was very blessed car weaved and vibrated but stayed straight till about 5-10 mph thats when I realized I did'nt have any steering where I was did'nt have guardrail or wall after finish line and just rolled off in grass. The alum. it was made of was looked like junk it was dark gray and very porous material and no thicker than cast iron box is. I put a GM vega box back on.I can't give you any conversion tips my car is G-body.
Flaming river told me was'nt made for drag car,I asked what it's for then?
they said street,I thought if it breaks on drag car that pulls 3" wheelie maybe hows it going to handle a pot hole or curves?
Mike Taylor 3601

brent flynn 09-12-2012 08:59 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 346053)
I had a set of headmans on my car. I ground on the steering box to give a little more clearance. No issue with the hooker pipes I have on the car now. I did lower the box on the frame a bit to make clearance between the drag link and the pan.

Thanks Mike... i actually sawzalled the big corner off my manual box, and went through ..oops... I made a little cover for it, epoxyed it on... and noticed that it had fallen off...so i took box to work...ground it flat....made a new cover 1/8'' thick... counter sunk some screws...itll be ok ... im thinkin about ditching the hedmans in favor of some Mad Dog Headers.... THe Hedmans have plates, and arent legal for the stocker combo im gettin ready to build(and they are 2'' primaries... a little big) 400/325... Im sure the hedmans will go right back on, with new cover on the box, but, im tired of messin with them, to be honest.... they will be cleaned up and put up for sale....

Todd Hoven 09-13-2012 12:28 PM

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I'm not sure you would have a problem running that box. I think if you get the bumpsteer corrected. And your car doesn't do the death shake when it hits the ground, you should have no problems. Pepole have been running them for years

charlieo 09-13-2012 01:24 PM

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hi i have a manaul gear box out of my ventura that i will sale if someone needs one nova camaro or firebird 321-733-8998 days 100.00 plus shiping 71 rear streer

cicero819 09-13-2012 02:44 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 346186)
Had flaming river alum. vega broke in half on second pass when let off gas @ 1/8 mi.
I was very blessed car weaved and vibrated but stayed straight till about 5-10 mph thats when I realized I did'nt have any steering where I was did'nt have guardrail or wall after finish line and just rolled off in grass. The alum. it was made of was looked like junk it was dark gray and very porous material and no thicker than cast iron box is. I put a GM vega box back on.I can't give you any conversion tips my car is G-body.
Flaming river told me was'nt made for drag car,I asked what it's for then?
they said street,I thought if it breaks on drag car that pulls 3" wheelie maybe hows it going to handle a pot hole or curves?
Mike Taylor 3601

Mine is a Vega box that we completely rebuilt with GM original parts, look's like charlieo has the box for you. I have welded the shock dampener on the steering system. Have you consider Lemons Headers, really good quality and all their products pipes are tucked in pretty well out of the way(I could be wrong but I've always had good luck with their craftsmanship) Wow, Mike you've cut it pretty sharp. Glad you're ok. You should warn everyone with pictures, they do sell a lot to racers and if their products aren't made for drag racer then we should know about it. Claude

Mike Taylor 3601 09-13-2012 08:14 PM

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It was about9-10 years ago they would'nt do anything,but warehouse I bought through took care of me though was 450.00 box.
Flaming River tech I talked to made me not very happy or nice,and anyone that knows me well will tell you it takes alot to upset me.
If i had been @ my home track the whole pass side at least would have been tore up on my car luckily I was where did have any walls or guardrails after finish line.
It destroyed every piece in steering,ball joints, tie rods the center link had came down so far that it ground the grease fittings off against the blacktop.
If still had box I would post pictures.
Everyone just be careful when working on steering and brakes.
Mike Taylor 3601

brent flynn 09-13-2012 08:38 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 346332)
I'm not sure you would have a problem running that box. I think if you get the bumpsteer corrected. And your car doesn't do the death shake when it hits the ground, you should have no problems. Pepole have been running them for years

Were the original Vega boxes cast iron? That would be the way to go, if you could actually find one... i think i will keep using mine, for now... switching headers, anyway....

Mike Taylor 3601 09-14-2012 08:07 AM

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Yes original vega box is cast iron they are probaly still some floating around. They are a good box
Mike Taylor 3601

brent flynn 09-14-2012 11:18 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 346482)
Yes original vega box is cast iron they are probaly still some floating around. They are a good box
Mike Taylor 3601

How much hassle is it to fit one to the car? I always thought they were a direct bolt on, except pittman arm....

Mark Yacavone 09-15-2012 01:15 AM

Re: vega steering box...
 
They'll bolt to the frame, but the steering shaft is smaller than the std GM ones..It would need to be adapted.

Mike Taylor 3601 09-17-2012 01:44 PM

Re: vega steering box...
 
The other thing I don't know about is the pitman arm when installing on rear steer car I guess it's going on firebird in picture.
My car is front steer and everything lined up except adapt spline,not sure about on rear steer car though
Mike Taylor 3601

ken robinson 09-22-2012 12:03 PM

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Hey Todd , my camaro doesn't get that death shake with the stock big box . But the cars that do is that a bump steer problem or is it related to other issues ?


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