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I didn't see a thread about old and rare parts like Hemi, MW, SD Poncho, Ford Tunnel Port, etc. A friend of mine in Florida has an early 426 Hemi block. It looks like it was made with the 426 MW tooling with the AAQA on the front of the block with the sand mold modified for the oil drainback holes. The head stud bosses look shorter than the later blocks and it has the A-864 designation on the pad. He bought it in a swap meet.

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Here is a photo of a Doug Nash Warrior intake I bought off eBag. I thought it was a B1 intake. It was modified for a 4500 carb. I tried to give it to a Poncho buddy in Mill-wah-key but he didn't want it. He found a buyer for it. Nice looking intake for the day. It's sitting on top of a 440 intake. I thought about trying to adapt it to a BB Mopar, but the offset is the opposite direction bank-to-bank.

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Great topic
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This should bring out some neat stuff.

How about the "questionable" legal parts that are no longer relevant? :eek:

Show us some of the trick stuff from back in the day. :D

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Your right does look to be a good one.

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Probably a prototype piece for an early '64 drag car or Nascar team, did he say where he found it, in the Detroit area or a shop down south somewhere's.

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looks like the Pontiac Warrior Intake w the water jacket cut off the front. I have an old Warrior catalogue around somewhere..
cool piece.

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A-864 is probably the program name from Mopar - EXO would be experimental - can't make out the casting date (1966?).

Owner should try and get in touch with Tom Hoover to see exactly what it is - very cool !

Try contacting Mancini Racing in Mich maybe they can help.

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He bought it at a swap meet in Florida. The casting date is 10-17-63. There are two articles that have been published on that block. One is in the Mopar Collectors Guide, the other was in Mopar Muscle magazine. We have a mutual friend, Stewart in Tampa, that used to hang out with the Mopar Missile crew back in the early 1970s. I was fortunate enough to be included in the early rounds of figuring out this block. The AAQA stood out for me. Bill Weertman thinks it was used for valvetrain testing as one of the head stud bosses cracked, making it useless for engine testing. Apparently the EXO marking also lends to the theory that it wasn't a running engine. I don't know if Hoover has seen the block, but the Missile gang usually makes it down for the Gators, so I'm sure Olfield has seen it and probably Joe Pappas. I got to meet those guys at the 2008 Hemi Reunion in Ohio thanks to Stewart.

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The A-864 Program. A couple of photos of early Race Hemi stuff. The A-990 was the 1965 Drag Race combo, but both are usually called A-990.

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Not a production part, but I was told this intake was made by Tom Hoover and it was in a Plymouth street car of his with a 392 stuffed in it.

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You should tell some of those old racers to come join in the fun and shoot the bs on here...l'd love to here some more old stories on these warhorses by them.

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I once had a 426 Wedge block with the AAQA designation and Jerry Stein told me it was a great block because of it's high nickel content. He was right about it being a great block as we went our best numbers with it.

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Well, I don't want to turn this thread into Mopar only. I thought it would be neat to see lots of odd/rare parts from the Big 3 and maybe the not-quite-as-big #4 (AMC). I found some pictures of a Pontiac RA V head. It looks a lot like the Ford Tunnel Port on the intake side. They must have changed the cam lobes on some cylinders since the valve spacing/arrangement is different.

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OK, this is an oddball engine and definitely not a race engine. Ford made some all aluminum V8 engines during WWII (The BIG ONE). The GA series engines started out as a V-12 (thus the 60 degree Vee) aircraft engine (explains the all-aluminum part), but the government already had enough aircraft engines (Allison and Packard built Merlins), but they needed a tank engine. They lobbed four cylinders off to make an all-aluminum V8 of 1100 CID. They had two puny carbs on it. I think it could use three Holleys for a bit more power.

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The big 3 made a lot of experimental parts & pieces back in the late 50's through the early 70's...anyone else here remember any other weird stuff.

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And there were several aftermarket companies such as Mickey Thompson...

M/T Pontiac Super Duty Cross-Ram intake manifold...

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/greenhoe/DSCN7312_001.JPG

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/greenhoe/DSCN7322.JPG

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Do you have anything off the top of your head regarding legal parts...I guess this could apply to a few stock & super stock classes including pro-stock back then.

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Nothing specific.

Maybe something that was run for a while and then got busted at tech.
Parts that pushed the limits of legal but only if the process/method is not something that is being done now.
Don't want to get any current rides busted!!!

And...like is being shown above, just some cool old stuff.

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It was rumored that Jimmy Addison's '67 GTX called the 'Silver Bullet' was a test bed for Chrysler performance parts back in the day...

http://www.dragzine.com/wp-content/b...5-bullet69.jpg

http://www.dragzine.com/features/car...silver-bullet/

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Aluminum motor mount from the original Gratiot Auto, Mancini LO29 dart. Later the Irish Rover. Being refurbed and headed back home to Detroit.

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Were both mounts made of aluminum or just the one...any other interesting pieces on Mancini's old L023 Hemi Dart since they had a back door to Chrysler performance stuff...post some pics of the car.

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Steel mount on the drivers side. Pretty basic car when the car won National event in 70-71. Super stock springs,no frame ties,bolt in roll bar, As with most of these cars that won the trickest part of the race operation was usually the driver!!

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Has anyone else here ever seen or heard of any other 'odd ball' stuff from Chrysler, Ford, or GM...

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I think the 1960s was the period of unbridled creativity on engines. Too bad this never made it to production. The intake ports look like a 318 port, except there are twice as many of them.

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Bendix EFI circa 1958. Twin throttle bodies.

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Christmas at Nichels Engineering. Maybe it wasn't Christmas, but sure looks like it.

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36 is what I count.

Value today?

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Yeah I remember that article on the old Doomsday Hemi motor...to bad they never made it into production.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1332609327

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AMC NASCAR cylinder heads

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...X/IMG_5610.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...X/IMG_5603.jpg

These have production casting number on them. These are unused, semi-finished as delivered. Ultra rare. I can't use them in Stock Eliminator but I can use them for Super Stock but it would take a lot of filling to have the proper specs. These will outflow & out perform modern Indy heads. You should pray I never have need to run these in SS! :)

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Sorry, no pictures to share but a story I found pretty interesting.

Way back in my Pro Stock days, I had a conversation with Richard Maskin and was asking about the famous Hornet PS.

Remember that the head rules were pretty restrictive when the X was being raced; you had to use a stock head for at least your base but could cut and weld fairly freely.

I told Maskin I'd seen the heads at a race when they were running the valves in the pits and was amazed at the amount of work that had to have gone into them. I remember thinking these were Frankenheads for sure, with all the scars and welds.

He laughed and agreed that they were a total pain to create. But he was laughing because after the first pair or two, the heads weren't what they seemed. It turns out that since Maskin had access to a foundry, he decided just to have the heads poured in the altered configuration.

He told me that they had to do a LOT of work on the heads to reproduce the "welds", "cuts", and "modifications". Though they never got caught, he said he wasn't sure that he saved all that much time over chopping up factory heads.

Successful drag racers are always thinking.

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This is nothing that hasn't been going on a long time there have been a bunch of Pro-Stock teams that had there own castings with the correct part number.

Heck when the 23 & 18 Deg small block Chebys were in NASCAR it was going on then.

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I remember when Chrysler came out with the new W2 heads for small block mopars in the late 70's or early 80's, I thought that was pretty cool stuff back then...well after several more redesigns they eventually moved on to a newer design for the race motors.


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does anyone remember the autolite in-line 4 barrel. great idea that didn't catch on. any idea what one might be worth?

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By the sounds of your post you must have one.
Care to share a picture of it.

liteweight

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i wish i had one! the only one i ever saw was on a mustang at lebanon valley in the early 70's. i didn't realize they were nearly 1400 cfm.

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If anyone is interested in the in-line Ford Carbs send me a message. I have a friend who has two that were left over from a speed shop we had back in 1970's. In recent months he has talked about selling those. I will try to get a photo

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Anyone have any pics of the experimental SBC with BBC heads. I saw a pic and article a long while back.