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rod 11-29-2011 11:17 PM

spark plug ?
 
let's say you just made a great run, pulled the plugs and each looks just like you want them to. you check your log book and find that your predetermined number of runs on that set is at your limit. you go home and toss the plugs in the dist bin. next race, it's a new set. sound right?
OK. what i want to know is why did you toss them. if there was no physical damage and no miss fire, what makes them worse than a new set?
is there some chemical or electrical change which takes place?
i want a serious answer/discussion, not a 'just cuz i don't want to take a chance' answer.

thanks rod in AZ

Tom Turner 11-29-2011 11:50 PM

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Is this a "pop quiz"? I really hate pop quiz's!

Adger Smith 11-30-2011 10:28 AM

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Heckeee durn it....I guess that is telling me to toss the old faitful Champion spark plug blaster. OH, Well!!

Jim B 11-30-2011 02:31 PM

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Don't forget that the service/replace cycle of any part or assembly in a race car is established by advice or practical experience. Aluminum rods, ring and pinion, and all wear/breakage prone components have a car/engine combination specific "replace" number of runs to ensure a minimum number of failures and or loss of performance. Although a single additional run over a valid cycle number is very rarely going to result in a failure, adhering to a schedule is simply good procedure that results in fewer "surprises". A far as spark plugs are concerned they have been cycled in the past rather than properly cleaned and dressed because they were frequently part of a parts deal and were free. Once plug cost is out of pocket Adger's method is a good cost cutting procedure to lengthen (not eliminate) the cycle number. (As long as you are not paying retail shop labor rates!!! lol)
You want to be sure not to get to the point like the guy who took such long steps to save wear and tear on his $40 shoes that he wound up splitting his $75 pants.....a round loss due to falling off a few hundredths because of overused spark plugs would fall in that category.

vic guilmino 11-30-2011 03:19 PM

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my plugs have been in the mustang since 2003

Tom Goldman 11-30-2011 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vic guilmino (Post 296245)
my plugs have been in the mustang since 2003

but you change rocker arms every other run!!

Bob Don 11-30-2011 04:41 PM

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Maybe not with the new rocker arm rule!

Dyno 11-30-2011 08:37 PM

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I saw a S/S hemi pick up 50 horsepower on the dyno last summer with a set of fresh NGK plugs. Not mine. Dyno

Bob Mulry 11-30-2011 10:28 PM

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Don,t forget known good vs. new...........

While working at the dealership all of the good techs had known good parts vs. new..... Sometimes the electronic parts out of the Parts Dept. in a factory sealed box didn't work....

With the QC we have today, new doesn't mean good...........

larrylomascolo 12-03-2011 09:41 AM

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With the QC we have today, new doesn't mean good... Friend of mine put a new set of plugs in his 340,,ran like he had 1 plug wire on wrong,told him put the old ones back in and start from there ,ran perfect,,bad new plug or plugs

NORMAN BARNARD 12-03-2011 01:21 PM

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The problem is not the lack of quality control , but the american business allowing this foreign junk to be passed off under the pretense of a quality item and enhancing the bottom line. I always check the center conductor with a good ohm meter before installation..........

Bob Mulry 12-03-2011 07:49 PM

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Q/C...HAHAHAHA

I bought a set of Autolite plugs, took them out the box to gap them and found a plug that had no threads..........

I think that Autolite wanted me to weld them in????????

Just ask anybody that works on his or her racecar and they will tell you that no matter how expensive or trick the part, EVERTHING has to checked....

Not only is Q/C dead, it's starting to smell…..

Walt Reynolds 12-03-2011 10:22 PM

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Bob, I thought you only used NGK BP5S plugs!

Bob Mulry 12-04-2011 12:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt Reynolds (Post 296913)
Bob, I thought you only used NGK BP5S plugs!

true, true ,true

That was in another life when I ran small block Chevys.....now I have seen the light and run Pontiacs....

I haven't seen you in 20 years...anything new?????

Bob


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