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Alex Denysenko 11-12-2011 02:27 PM

Q Ships
 
This is a topic that I think everyone here would enjoy and share in.
At one time or another I think that every manufacturer offered up some very hot equipment disguised in a unsuspecting wrapper.

I have kinda been a student of these cars over the years but I don't think I have seen them all.

I'll start out with one that I am surprised Paul Ceasrine never spoke of.

How many of you have ever heard of this one much less seen one?

http://www.sixpackfuryregistry.com/

Hemi Moose 11-12-2011 05:00 PM

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These things were built mostly as a luxury sports model, they were way to heavy to be very competitive...70 & 71 Sport Fury's came with 318's 383's and the Sport Fury GT came with 440's, but very few came with the 440 six barrel option.

http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com...front_view.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 11-15-2011 07:29 PM

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Alex,

The '2-Ton+ Beasts'...Could be found in H/SA at your local drag strip.

Never saw one,,,,but I bet on the Thruway at 120 MPH, it still had more left. :eek:

Paul Ceasrine 11-15-2011 07:34 PM

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Alex,

Personally, I liked the 1970 Chrysler 'Hurst 300' cars.
Production numbers; 385 built

With the 440 'TNT'

Charlie A 11-15-2011 11:00 PM

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Worked in the bodyshop of a chrysler/plymouth/dodge dealer in 1970.
Owner had one of the Hurst 300's.
What a cool ride.
It (and everything else) got fenced in when he went belly up and had 5 lending institutions show up claiming ownership of some of the same cars and trucks!
A couple of the loan officers got in a fight over the cars and the local police were called in to stop it.
Never got my last paycheck..........

Paul Ceasrine 11-16-2011 12:38 PM

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Alex,

Had to do a follow up.
The 70' Plymouth Sport Fury GT (Hardtop)
440/390 HP 6-Pack
Transmission; 727-Automatic (Only)

Car weight; #4216
Wt/Hp = 10.81
1970 NHRA Class; H/SA or (SS/JA)

Never saw one,,,,,,,,,,

Steve Stasko 11-16-2011 02:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A56 (Post 293848)
There is a guy named Dan that lives up in Washington that owns a few of those Furys with a 6 pack, he is way into them as well as Barracudas. There not restored, there all banged up, but there real, and he has them. Hes a car rare muscle car hoarder, but the type of guy that will never do anything with them.

Mark Lelchook
E/SA #704

I think in the time that he has picked up those Fury's, he has purchased at least 2-3 other Fury's (non-Six Barrel) and got those running/driving. I don't think the Six Barrel cars will ever see life again until a serious collector/restorer with a barrel of money gets a hold of the cars. They are really rough, I think the one is actually bent in half.

There is supposed to be one in Ontario, Canada, complete, and in really nice condition. Also, I think I remember hearing of one in the Chicago vicinity that was pretty decent as well. Definitely cool cars though.

Alex Denysenko 11-17-2011 12:11 AM

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Next: Ford

Everyone knows about the 63-64 427 Galaxie lightweights as those were mostly true race cars but the 65-66 cars were much more stealth and rare.

Here is a survivor 66 427-425 4 speed sleeper car

http://www.stangtv.com/news/ebay-fin...axie-survivor/

Hemi Moose 11-17-2011 12:27 AM

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I used to see a couple of Galaxies with the seven litre badges on the front fenders but not sure what year they were 65-66-67 models...here's a 427 Galaxie sedan
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...0misc/79-1.jpg

Charlie A 11-17-2011 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 294057)
Next: Ford

Everyone knows about the 63-64 427 Galaxie lightweights as those were mostly true race cars but the 65-66 cars were much more stealth and rare.

Here is a survivor 66 427-425 4 speed sleeper car

http://www.stangtv.com/news/ebay-fin...axie-survivor/


What a great story.

Like everyone else here......"If only I had done the same with my......."

Alex Denysenko 11-18-2011 11:52 PM

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Next:
1966 Buick Wildcat GS Y48 package.
One of my all time favorites. When I was a young kid a older guy on our block had one and he used to take me cruising in it. Very stupid fast for the day big car.
Squeeled hard on 1-2 and chirped the 2-3 shifts. With the switch pitch converter active and the dumps open it needed slicks.

http://www.oldride.com/library/1966_buick_wildcat.html

Dwight Southerland 11-19-2011 10:13 AM

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I will throw in three for consideration.

1) 1957 DeSoto Adventurer, 392 Hemi with 2-4s, 375 hp. A friend of my older brother had one of these in high school and it would school many of the hot rods from a 30 mph roll.
2) 1970 Oldsmobile Toronado 455 400 hp. Although the hp was bogus (same engine in a 442 was 365 hp), the power was still there. My boss had one that I drove on a sales job when I was right out of college. It had so much torque steer from a dead stop that if it ever broke the tires loose hard, it would head straight for the ditch.
3) 1968 Carprice 427-425hp 4-speed. A college friend whose family owned a small town Chevrolet dealership had one at school. Leather seats, 8-track player, opera lights, wire hubcaps. The car stayed in the shop a lot with busted driveline parts. The rumpity-rump sound of that car always surprised people wherever he went.

Paul Ceasrine 11-19-2011 12:39 PM

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1966 Pontiac 2 + 2

421 H.O. / 376 HP (Tri-Power)

I rode in one back in 1968, not at the Dragstrip, but on the
Taconic State Parkway...
Maybe the fastest highway car at 2-Ton +.

120 MPH +, no problem.

Alex Denysenko 11-19-2011 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 294452)
I will throw in three for consideration.

2) 1970 Oldsmobile Toronado 455 400 hp. Although the hp was bogus (same engine in a 442 was 365 hp), the power was still there. My boss had one that I drove on a sales job when I was right out of college. It had so much torque steer from a dead stop that if it ever broke the tires loose hard, it would head straight for the ditch.
.

Here you go Dwight.

1970 Olds Toronoda GT W-34

I had a close racer friend who bought one used in the early 70.s.

We took it to US 30, dropped the head pipes and tire pressure. 14.70's @101



http://automotivemileposts.com/toron...ado1970gt.html

Alex Denysenko 11-19-2011 11:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 294471)
1966 Pontiac 2 + 2

421 H.O. / 376 HP (Tri-Power)

I rode in one back in 1968, not at the Dragstrip, but on the
Taconic State Parkway...
Maybe the fastest highway car at 2-Ton +.

120 MPH +, no problem.

Another one of my favorites as well Paul.



http://www.oldride.com/library/1965_pontiac_2+2.html

Alex Denysenko 11-20-2011 12:17 AM

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Next: Mercury S55



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_S-55

Greg Reimer 7376 11-20-2011 12:36 PM

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1965 Chev Impala SS 409/400 horse, 4 speed, 3.31 12 bolt RE. Something like 792 400 horse 409's built that year, total 409 production around 2812. Serious road monsters. I went to church when I was around 19 or 20 with a couple, he was a few years older then myself, he claimed to have had a robin's egg blue 409 400 4speed '65 SS hardtop with a white interior. I still worked at a gas station in the area, a customer came in with a light blue '65 Chevy, white interior, it was a Super Sport, 4 speed, and he needed a can of 30 wt Pennzoil put in it. I opened the hood, here was a 409, aluminum high rise, etc.I put in his oil, off they went, and later when I found out how rare that car was I suspected that it probably was the same car. He traded it in in 1968 for a new Caprice, I waited on it in 1975.Hope it still exists!

Barnstorm 11-20-2011 01:16 PM

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Don't forget the 58 Mercury Super Marauder 430" 400hp 3x2 carb motor. Drove one back in the day in a station wagon with a 2.91 axle...wouldn't spin the tires!

Paul Ceasrine 11-21-2011 06:57 PM

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Car & Track,

1966 Pontiac 2 + 2, with the 421 H.O. / 376 HP (Tri-Power)

Top Speed,,,,,, 137 MPH,,,,,,:eek:

Frank Castros 11-21-2011 09:43 PM

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1964 Chrysler 300K, 413 long ram, twin 4bbl carbs, 390bhp @ 5,200rpm, 485ft/lbs @ 3,600rpm.

Dwight Southerland 11-22-2011 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 294738)
Car & Track,

1966 Pontiac 2 + 2, with the 421 H.O. / 376 HP (Tri-Power)

Top Speed,,,,,, 137 MPH,,,,,,:eek:

Paul -

For years after C&D's test of this car, it remained at the top of their list for quickest 0-60 time, even faster than an LS6 Chevelle and a Hemi Barracuda. I'm not claiming anything revolutionary, because I am well aware of all the factors involved in magazine testing, but it is a testimony to this being a significant "Q-ship".

Dwight Southerland 11-22-2011 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 294585)
1965 Chev Impala SS 409/400 horse, 4 speed, 3.31 12 bolt RE. Something like 792 400 horse 409's built that year, total 409 production around 2812. Serious road monsters. I went to church when I was around 19 or 20 with a couple, he was a few years older then myself, he claimed to have had a robin's egg blue 409 400 4speed '65 SS hardtop with a white interior. I still worked at a gas station in the area, a customer came in with a light blue '65 Chevy, white interior, it was a Super Sport, 4 speed, and he needed a can of 30 wt Pennzoil put in it. I opened the hood, here was a 409, aluminum high rise, etc.I put in his oil, off they went, and later when I found out how rare that car was I suspected that it probably was the same car. He traded it in in 1968 for a new Caprice, I waited on it in 1975.Hope it still exists!

A very rare and unusual page in Chevrolet's performance history. It was not as fast as the 396-425hp option that replaced it, though.

Dan Bennett 11-24-2011 01:54 PM

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I agree with all the previous examples but I'll throw in one from far out in left field.

In 1970 only, the Eldorado was powered by a 500 cubic inch, 400 horsepower engine.

Of course it was a turtle off the line but I embarrassed a bunch of performance cars when they couldn't catch (or shake) me from a 20 mph punch.

It was an absolute barrel of monkeys on the interstate.

Chris Barnes 11-26-2011 09:51 PM

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Deep in the rule book--1964--4 door Mopar B-bodies w/aluminum nose and Max Wedge...

'66 Hemi wagons...

'78-80(?) Dodge 360 4 bbl wagons

My wife won't let me build one.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

GTX JOHN 11-27-2011 04:16 AM

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I think (as much as my fuzzy memory allows) that the 57 Adventurer
had a 341 Hemi with two fours although the 57 300 had 392 with
two fours.

I think the 64 300 had inline fours and the last year of long ram or mid ram
was 62.

My kid ran a 78 aspen 360 wagon in K/SA and L/SA until it was factored up to
289 while the sedans were 270 making it impossible to compete with
sedans! It ran in Mid 11's back then about five years ago and won class
even when it was 245 Lbs. than a Sedan occasionally.

Dwight Southerland 11-27-2011 03:23 PM

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[QUOTE=GTX JOHN;295570]I think (as much as my fuzzy memory allows) that the 57 Adventurer
had a 341 Hemi with two fours although the 57 300 had 392 with
two fours.
[QUOTE]

I think you are right. The Desoto was limited to a 345 ci hemi with 2-4s rated at 345 hp. (One hp per cubic inch, just like the FI Chevy.)

Paul Ceasrine 11-28-2011 11:02 AM

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Alex,,,,,

1966 Buick Wildcat '465', Sport Coupe
425/380 HP 'Y48 Option' (465 lbs. of torque)

Y48 Option (Cost $381)
included;
* a Dual-quad intake w/twin Carter 625 CFM AFB's (in the trunk)
* High-rate Valve-springs
* Special Chrome Air-cleaner
* Cast-aluminum valve covers
* Posi-Traction w/3.42 Gears
* Dual-exhaust
* 'GS Handling Package'
(incl; Heavy-Duty Shocks, Variable-rate Suspension-springs, Heavy-Duty Front & Rear Sway-bars,
Quick-ratio Steering-box, 15" x 7" Rallye Road-wheels and 8.45 x 15" performance tires)

Option; Super-Turbine Switch-Pitch Turbo-Hydramtic 400 Transmission (cost $236)

Car weight; 4003 lbs.
Not a favorable weight/horsepower break in 1966 (10.54 wt/hp),,(C/SA = 9.50 - 10.59 wt/hp)

Performance;
0-to-60,,,,,,,,,,,,,7.4 seconds
1/4 Mile,,,,,,,,,,,15.20 @ 93 MPH
Top Speed,,,,,132 MPH

Performance Test, with 4.45 Optional Gears, Belanger Headers and 7" slicks.
13.97 @ 102.3 MPH
http://www.oldride.com/library/files...t_overview.jpg

Greg Reimer 7376 11-28-2011 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 294850)
A very rare and unusual page in Chevrolet's performance history. It was not as fast as the 396-425hp option that replaced it, though.

Any idea how many 425 horse 396's were built? That was an awfully late car. 396's came out in Mid February'65.

Hemi Moose 11-29-2011 07:32 PM

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Always liked the looks of this 1960 Chrysler 300F 2-Door Hardtop 413/375 HP.
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/KC1211...d=112211181103
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/KC1211...d=112211181103
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/KC1211...d=112211181103

jackarnew 11-30-2011 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 294057)
Next: Ford

Everyone knows about the 63-64 427 Galaxie lightweights as those were mostly true race cars but the 65-66 cars were much more stealth and rare.

Here is a survivor 66 427-425 4 speed sleeper car

http://www.stangtv.com/news/ebay-fin...axie-survivor/

Around 1965, the time I owned a T- bolt I also owned a 64 A/S 2 door hardtop galaxie. It had the same engine and suspenion set up as the T-Bolt (fresh air intake, fiberglass hood , traction bars 427 hi-rise and top loader 4 speed).Gotta tell you that was some kind of a ride with the 6 inch tires on 4 inch rims, 6 to 9 pounds of air, as that was the rear tire rule at that time.

Alex Denysenko 12-15-2011 12:29 AM

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1965 and 66 Oldsmobile Starfire with the new 425 irrigation engines.
370 then 375 HP available with a 4 speed or TH-400 auto.
3.42 gears and a custom dual exhaust sytem.

Paul Ceasrine 12-15-2011 08:58 AM

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1966 Dodge Polara (with the 'Police Pursuit Vehice Package')

440/365 Horsepower
* with special dual-exhaust and Holley 650 CFM carburetor
* and special road-handling package
* special 'Police Interceptor' 727 Torque-Flite transmission
* special higher-stall torque-converter
* transmission oil-cooler

Available with the 'standard' 3.23 Sure-Grip Posi-gear, or 2.93 'highway-chase gears'.

A #3965 lb. 'Road Missle', capable of 140 MPH on the highway.

Chris Barnes 12-16-2011 07:46 PM

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I just love the names of those old Buicks and Olds...Starfire, Roadmaster, Rocket 88, Vista Cruiser, and my personal favorite--Wildcat. No one is ever going to name a car Wildcat again...oh well it would probably be an Italian minivan anyways.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

Dan Bennett 12-17-2011 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barnes (Post 299349)
I just love the names of those old Buicks and Olds...Starfire, Roadmaster, Rocket 88, Vista Cruiser, and my personal favorite--Wildcat. No one is ever going to name a car Wildcat again...oh well it would probably be an Italian minivan anyways.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

I agree. It seems like a lot more thought went into names back then as they weren't using focus groups and making up names.

For instance, most of us remember the Buick Century as a grandma car that was really popular with the car rental companies. But the original Century got the name because a smaller body got the engine from their big car and would run 100 mph - something pretty rare back then.

The first "generated" name I can remember was Camaro. Chevrolet tried to explain that it meant "friend" in some language or other. After they were called out that the fact wasn't true, I never saw them mention the origin again.

There may have been earlier names, but all that I can think of were places, animals, or numbers that had some reason for being attached to the car. For instance, the Electra 225 was named because that big barge was 225" long.

Rory McNeil 12-17-2011 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 299462)
I agree. It seems like a lot more thought went into names back then as they weren't using focus groups and making up names.

For instance, most of us remember the Buick Century as a grandma car that was really popular with the car rental companies. But the original Century got the name because a smaller body got the engine from their big car and would run 100 mph - something pretty rare back then.

The first "generated" name I can remember was Camaro. Chevrolet tried to explain that it meant "friend" in some language or other. After they were called out that the fact wasn't true, I never saw them mention the origin again.

There may have been earlier names, but all that I can think of were places, animals, or numbers that had some reason for being attached to the car. For instance, the Electra 225 was named because that big barge was 225" long.

So true, these days most car names sound like they belong on a feminine protection product, or a bottle of purfume.

Paul Ceasrine 12-17-2011 05:16 PM

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Chrysler Imperial
Chrysler Newport
Buick Riviera
Pontiac Bonneville
Mercury Montego
Chevrolet Caprice

The names sounded 'high class'

Alex Denysenko 01-15-2012 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 293155)
These things were built mostly as a luxury sports model, they were way to heavy to be very competitive...70 & 71 Sport Fury's came with 318's 383's and the Sport Fury GT came with 440's, but very few came with the 440 six barrel option.

http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com...front_view.jpg

A complete 440 6 pack Fury needing restoration is for sale in this month's Hemmings.

Asking price $45,000.00

BlueOval Ralph 01-15-2012 04:16 PM

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Nice car but it doesn't have optional glass headlight covers Ford made for NASCAR only seen a couple of sets. There was a article in Hot Rod Magazine on the 427 car.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jackarnew (Post 296259)
Around 1965, the time I owned a T- bolt I also owned a 64 A/S 2 door hardtop galaxie. It had the same engine and suspenion set up as the T-Bolt (fresh air intake, fiberglass hood , traction bars 427 hi-rise and top loader 4 speed).Gotta tell you that was some kind of a ride with the 6 inch tires on 4 inch rims, 6 to 9 pounds of air, as that was the rear tire rule at that time.


Hemi Moose 01-15-2012 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 304043)
A complete 440 6 pack Fury needing restoration is for sale in this month's Hemmings. Asking price $45,000.00

Yes I've heard about that car before, it's a factory black 70 Sport Fury GT and it sure would be a nice one all done up, but it does need to total restoration...the car was sold new in Toledo Ohio, does anyone here remember this thing from back then.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...1_132421AA.JPG

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...1_132448AA.JPG

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...28Large%29.jpg

Alex Denysenko 02-01-2012 11:08 PM

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Seldom seen and heard of 1971 Buick Rivera GS 455 Stage 1


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