69 Ford Torino Cobra
My Neighbor has a 69 Torino Cobra 428 Fastback. Nice Driver quality with
non matching 428 but fresh Ford Power Parts engine. He has owned it 20 plus years. It is a strong runner! I am a Mopar Boy and wondered if these are rare or collectible? I could probable buy it for 12K. Thanks for any Help! |
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GTX John,
Though the 1969 Torino Cobra cars are a good bargain, money would be better spent on a 1970 Super Cobra-Jet 429. Mr. X I agree, the 69' Hardtop Coupe looked stronger,,,,,,,,,,'body-wise' http://www.motorbase.com/pictures/co...rino-cobra.jpg In 1969, both the Hardtop Coupe (#3541 lbs.) and Fastback SportsRoof (#3599 lbs.) 428 Cobra-Jet 335 HP (non Ram-Air 428's) cars were classed in F/S or SS/J. (10.00 - 10. 49 wt/hp). The 69' Fastback 'SportRoof' car was notorious for a 'whippy' tail-end. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Ford-TORINO-4...6TfiQ~~_35.JPG General Performance; Road Test; 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet (non Ram-Air), 4-Speed, with 3.50 Gears and Traction-Lock 15.07 @ 94 MPH Motor Trend; 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet (non Ram-Air), 4-Speed, with 3.50 Gears and Traction-Lock 14.90 @ 95 MPH Motor Trend; 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet (with Ram-Air), 4-Speed, with 3.50 Gears and Traction-Lock 14.50 @ 100 MPH Motor Trend; 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet (with Ram Air), C-6 Automatic, with 4.10 Gears and Traction-Lock 13.88 @ 101 MPH Car & Driver; 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet (with Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, with 3.91 Gears and Traction-Lock 14.27 @ 99 MPH Note; Car underwent a performance tune-up before the dragstrip test. |
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John,
My thoughts are, what would you give for a 69 Chevelle SS 396 car without the original motor? How about a 69 442, GTO? Why is the Ford any different? Aren’t they all muscle cars from the same time and era? Didn’t they all reign supreme in some category somewhere? If the body is good, the mechanical is good, and the interior is good, shouldn’t that alone count for a piece of automotive history? As you can see I own a Cyclone. I faced this same dilemma years ago regarding the value of my car. I love the car. I did not want to sell it or make some restoration that I was scared to touch. I decided to race it. I am still trying. I don’t claim to know all the answers, but I am puzzled by some of the thinking regarding our type of cars. I also know from reading about you, that you would give the car a very good home and take care of it. I wish you the best. |
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I personally like the hardtops also. :D
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For looks,
The 69' Hardtop Coupe (non Ram-Air), a flat hood without the scoop. Color; Red, with the black accent grille,,,,,,, 428/335 HP 'Super Cobra-Jet' ('Q'-Code) The 428 SCJ 'Q'-Code * cast pistons * nodular cast-iron crankshaft * externally balanced * 427 (Lemans) cap-screw connecting rods * engine oil cooler * Holley 735 CFM Carburetor 9" Rear 3.91 Gears, w/Traction-Lock limited slip A very 'sharp-looking' street sleeper, that could run 14.20's @ 100 MPH. pc |
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I believe it should still be a 735 CFM carb.
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I like the hard top but LOVE the fastback.
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When I think Cobra Fairlane I think it has to have dog dish caps. Any fastback torino or fairlane with G.T. wheels makes me think 390.:D
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Thanks for all the input!!!!
The car I am Looking at is a "R" Code....... Should it be a "Q" for a Cobra Jet instead of a "R". Thanks, GTX JOHN |
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Hardtop Coupe versus Fastback 'SportsRoof',,,,,,,
For the dragstrip,,,,,and man-about-town,,,,,,,the Hardtop Coupe... Definitely a Northern USA car. For the roundy-round,,,,,long-haul parkway driving,,,,,the Fastback 'Sportsroof'. Definitely a Southern USA car. pc |
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1969 Ford Torino Cobra
In June 1969, Speed Age Magazine (formerly Drag Strip), got their hands on a 1 of 1, 1969 FordTorino Cobra. The Car; 69 Torino Cobra 'Hardtop Coupe; Color; Red Interior; Black Engine 428/335 HP 'Super Cobra-Jet' (non Ram-Air) 'Q' Code Factory Options; * Bucket Seats * GT Handling Package (Extra High-Rate Front & Rear Springs) (Extra Heavy-Duty Front & Rear Shocks) (Large-Diameter Front Sway-bar) * 6000 RPM Tachometer * Drag-Pak (Engine Oil-Cooler & 428 Super Cobra-Jet Engine) * 4.30 Gears w/Traction-Lock Differential * Heavy-Duty Battery (80-Amp) * Heavy-Duty Alternator (55-Amp) * Extra-Capacity Radiator * Close-Ratio 4-Speed Transmission (2.32 / 1.69 / 1.29 / 1.00) * Delete Options ( Radio, Heater, Body Sound Deadener) Dealer Installed; Factory Provided Components (Traction Drag-Pack II); * 15" x 7" Chrome Style Wheels, w/Chrome Trim Rings * F60 x 15" GoodYear R-W-L Tires (Front) * G60 x 15" GoodYear R-W-L Tires (Rear) * Traction-Master Traction-Bars * Extra-Thick Rear Shock Tower Plates Dealer Installed; Factory Provided Components (Drive-Train Drag-Pack III); * Hurst Competition/Plus Shifter * Schieffer Clutch Package (High-Rate Pressure-Plate and Heavy-Duty Clutch-Disc) Dealer Installed; Factory Provided Components (Free-Flow Exhaust Drag-Pack IV); * Special Low-Restriction Exhaust Pipes (2.75" diameter) * Special Un-Baffled Mufflers * Special Cast-iron Exhaust Manifolds (Exhaust port passages and header openings ground smooth) Dealer Installed; Factory Provided Components (Hi-Rev Engine Drag-Pack V); * Rev Limiter (5800 RPM) * High-Pressure Fuel Pump * Blueprinted Cylinder Heads (Lightweight Valves) (3-Angle Competition Valve Job) (Milled Surface and CC'd combustion chambers) (Intake and Exhaust Ports gasket-matched) (Performance Valve Springs) (Spring Height set) (Teflon Seals) * Adjustable Rocker-Arms * Edelbrock Aluminum Dual-Plane Off-Set Intake Manifold (#FE-427) * Intake Heat-Crossover Passage Block-Plate * Holley 780 CFM Carburetor (Vacuum Secondaries) * Dual-Point Distributor (427) * Solid-Core Ignition Wires Performance Results; (Post your guess) Note: A 'factory showroom' 69' Torino Cobra, with a 428 Super Cobra-Jet (Q-Code), 4-Speed close-ratio transmission, and Drag-Pak (4.30 gears), with stock F70 x 14 tires, could run; 13.85's @ 102 MPH. |
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With that rev limited set at 5800 I can't see it even making it through the traps with 4.30 gears G60 tires.
But I'll guess 13.30 hitting the limited from 1100 foot on. :confused: I had one for many years. Black "R" code SCJ coupe with every option imaginable. 1969 FoMoCo Chicago Auto Show special build. I bought it from the original owner who lost his licsence. Very fast street racer that made me a lot of money. Sold it to Tony's Godfather during my divorce and he still has it as far as I know. I'll post some pics. |
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Alex and 69 Cobra,,,,
Excellent analysis,,,,,,,,,,,,, Speed Age got the car to run a best of 13.18 @ 109.5 MPH Average times were in the 13.20's @ 108 MPH. The Rev-Limiter was put in for a 'reason', obviously...as the test was controlled and observed by a 'neurotic and extremely nervous' Ford Dealer representative. The Speed Age Magazine car-testers came to the conclussion; * removal of the Rev-Limiter, * install 7" 'M & H' slicks on 15" x 6" rims * thinner front tires 7.35 x 15" * tweak the Holley 780 CFM carburetor Estimated Performance; 12.80's @ 112 MPH. |
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My late friend Gene Collins raced a "Box Top" 69 non ram air (flat hood) 428 CJ Fairlane when new after he sold his 271 HP 66 Mustang. He ran in the 10.5 lb class which was H/SA at that time (F/SA today) against the 62 Dodge 383/343 HP wagons. With the 4.30 gears that came in it and everything else as Ford built it he ran 13.30's on OEM street tires. With headers and 7 inch tires he was in the high12.90 and 13.0 range. After we did the heads it ran 12.60's. We then put a 3000 stall 10 inch converter in along with a shift kit in the C-6 and a regrind stocker cam then ran under the record with 12.40's using the OEM stock short block The record at that time was 12.65 set by the "Behemouth" 62 Dodge wagon of Pratt and Burkett. He won enough to pay his bills when he was laid of at work racing at Capitol and Aquasco raceway back then. It was a great car.
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Forgot to add,,,,,,,,,,,the price of the car as tested.
1969 Ford Torino Cobra 'Hardtop Coupe,,,,,,3208 * Cobra-Jet Package,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,28 7 * Bucket Seats,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,54 * GT Handling Package,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,30 * Tachometer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,48 * Close-Ratio 4-Speed Transmission,,,,,,,,,,,,,,195 * Drag-Pack,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,155 Total,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,$3977 * Traction Drag-Pack II,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,304 * Drive-Train Drag-Pack III,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,295 * Free-Flow Exhaust Drag-Pack IV,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,208 * Hi-Rev Engine Drag-Pack V,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,685 Total Cost,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,$5469 |
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Richard Petty in the 1969 Ford Torino Cobra Fastback 'SportsRoof'.
Richard Petty's first race in the 1969 Ford Torino Cobra February 1, 1969 Motor Trend 500 Riverside International Raceway (California) He Won! http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MAY-1969-SPEE...vZi3jQ~~_3.JPG |
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The 1969 Ford Torino Cobra (proper name). Available with the; 428 Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air) 428 Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air) or 428 Super Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air) 428 Super Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air) The standard 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet came through with 3.50 Gears, and an Open-end differential. Optional Gear-ratios from the factory; 3.25, 3.90 and 4.30. 4.11 Gears were available, but 'dealer installed only'. The Super Cobra-Jet engine was available with the Drag-Pack, which included; * the special externally balanced 428 engine * engine oil-cooler * 3.90 or 4.30 Gears with/Traction-Lock differential Transmissions; Wide-ratio 4-speed (2.78 / 1.93 / 1.36 / 1.00) Close-ratio 4-Speed (2.32 / 1.69 / 1.29 / 1.00) Clutch-plate (11 1/2") C-6 Automatic (2.46 / 1.46 / 1.00) Torque-Converter (1800 RPM Stall-speed) Tires; F-70 x 14" |
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Magazine Performance Tests;
Road Test 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears Results; 15.07 @ 94 MPH Motor Trend 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears Results; 14.90 @ 95 MPH Car Craft 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears Results; 14.81 @ 96 MPH Popular Mechanics 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.50 Gears Results; 14.75 @ 96 MPH Popular Hot Rodding 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears Results; 14.52 @ 97 MPH Motor Trend 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 3.91 Gears (with Hurst Shifter) Results; 14.50 @ 99.5 MPH Car and Track 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.91 Gears Results; 14.40 @ 101 MPH Car and Driver 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears Drag-Pack I Results; 14.27 @ 99 MPH Cars Magazine 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears Drag-Pack I Results; 14.20 @ 101 MPH Hot Rod 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.11 Gears Dealer-installed 4.11 Gears Results; 14.09 @ 101 MPH Super Stock & Drag Illustrated 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 3.91 gears Results; 14.04 @ 100.6 MPH Car Life 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 4.11 Gears Dealer-installed 4.11 gears Results; 13.93 @ 101.5 MPH Motor Trend 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I (Press Test car) Results; 13.88 @ 101 MPH Detroit Auto News 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air) C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I (Press Test Car) Results; 13.81 @ 102.3 MPH Super Stock and Funny Car 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I Results; 13.79 @ 103.5 MPH Rodder and Super Stock 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I (Press Test Car w/Slicks) 7" GoodYear Slicks on 14" x 6" rims Results; 13.59 @ 105.1 MPH Popular Hot Rodding 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed close-ratio, 4.30 Gears Equipped with; Headers, Aluminum Intake manifold, Dual-point distributor and 7" M & H Slicks mounted on 15" x 6" rims Results; 13.27 @ 108.3 MPH Speed Age 428/335 HP (Q-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack (I thru V) (Detroit Dealership-prepped car) G60 x 15" Tires on 15" x 7" rims Results; 13.18 @ 109.5 MPH |
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1969 Ford Torino Cobra Performance Test;
August 1968 Car and Track August 1968 Speed and Supercar February 1969 Super Stock & Drag Illustrated March 1969 Car Craft May 1969 Speed Age February 1970 Super Stock & Funny Car |
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Kris is correct. In 1969 the Cobra was its own model, it was neither a Torino or Fairlane
It was also the base car used for the Talladega. To tell the difference just read the 3rd & 4th letter of the vin EX: 9A42Rxxxxxx Fairlane Fastback 35 Torino GT fastback 42 Cobra Fastback 46 Formal roof Fairlane 30 Fairlane 500 33 Torino GT 44 Cobra 45 These cars are starting to get more valuable everyday Regards, Marty Burke 1969 Talladega {Maroon} 1969 Talladega {white} 1969 Torino GT {R code 4 speed} 1969 Torino GT {Q code auto} 1969 Cobra R code 1969 Cyclone R code 1969 Cyclone Spoiler II {Gurney} 1969 Cyclone Spoiler {Cale} All still in the garage |
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Wow nice collection Mr. Burke. I would also like to add the 69 Cobra hardtop or formal roof was a 45 code for the 3rd and 4th numbers.
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Hi Kris,
As I'm sure you saw I did post the Cobra coupe. Thanks for the compliment on the collection,. Those are just the one pertinent to this topic {yes I have more cars}. FYI, I ran a 1969 Cobra Stocker in D/SA a few years ago {won class in Houston with it in 2003} but went back to my Mustang. Thanks again, Marty |
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You guys are the 'experts',,,,,
Proper name,,,,,,,,,,'Ford Cobra' I wonder whatever happened to the 'Speed Age Magazine' tested car. All dealer installed options, except for the factory Drag-Pack. Probably some Ford Detroit-dealer sales manager ended up with it. 1 of 1... |
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Paul,
No question, that car would be a GREAT car to have! Regards, Marty |
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Motor Trend Magazine January 1969 Evaluates the, 69' Ford Torino Cobra 428 Yet, they then list the car in the article as the Cobra, with the 428 Cobra-Jet. |
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I don't believe a whole hell of a lot from any magazine..but car&driver and Road&track have got to be the worst excuses of magazines besides....motortrend.
Pro import, ALWAYS slower in dragracing than any other magazine test of any car. In other words, they suck. I'm suprised they didn't call it a Cobra, torino jet, 390SS, GT! |
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For us non-Ford experts,,,,,,,,,
The 1969 Ford Fairlane/Torino (same car) * Fairlane,,,,,,,,,,,(Low-level trim group) * Fairlane 500,,,(Intermediate trim group) * Torino,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(High-level trim group) * Torino GT,,,,,,,,,(High-level trim group with GT Sports Package) * Cobra,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(428 Cobra-Jet engine, standard engine) Note: The 302-2V / 210 HP was the standard engine on all Fairlane/Torino models, except for the Cobra. Note: The bucket seats and center-console were a required option ($54) for the Cobra 'Hardtop' model. pc |
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Does any of you have a vin number that is like this scj torino block number 9A227110, if so i have this complete engine.
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Ford Cobra experts,,,
1968 question The 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet was available in the 1968 Fairlane, Fairlane 500, Torino and Torino GT The 'R' Code Ram-Air was available in the Fairlane, Fairlane 500 and Torino, after April 1, 1968. The Torino GT could only have the 428/335 HP 'Q' Code (non-Ram-Air) version. PC |
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