1964 426-S 'Street-Wedge'
 

1964, Chrysler introduced the street-minded 426-S 'Street-Wedge'.
Also known as, the Commando 426.

Rated at 365 Horsepower, the 64' Plymouth Belvedere, Fury and Dodge
Model 330/440 and Polaris cars were supposed to rule the 'street musclecar scene'.

Easier to tune than the 426 Max-Wedge, the 426-S was a more desirable every-day driver.

With both the Plymouth Belvedere & Fury, and Dodge Model 330/440 and Polaris cars weighing in at approximately #3350 lbs., the 426/365 HP car fit into the A/Stock class in 1964
(8.70 - 9.49 wt/hp).

Motor Trend Magazine 1964 Performance Results;
64' Belvedere w/727-automatic and 3.91 gears,,,,15.20 @ 95.5 MPH

anybody have one...

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Paul
There a few of them in the Detroit Area. Quite a turd on the Street Race scene. No match for the new GTO's and Ford's. Stanford Bros in Lincoln Park sold a bunch along with West Born in Dearborn for those who don't know it It is the same family that owns Varsity Ford in Ann Arbor and Les Stanford Chevy in Dearborn.

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I didn't have one, but my assistant coach at the Jr. High where we taught did. With Caslers and the exhaust manifolds off of a Max-Wedge, it went a 13.44 at 101 flat at Minnesota Dragway. Back then we could run the slicks on the street here, so it was considered a pretty quick street car, but even though it was lighter, it still wouldn't keep up with my hopped-up '50 Olds.

Jerry

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The 365 Horsepower rating was a 'tad' overblown,,,,,,,
Currently the NHRA rates them at 300 HP. More in line...

Evidently, the Carter #3611 AFB carburetor was under-sized
(same carburetor used on the 383 engines).
The AFB was rated at 575 CFM,,,,,,to go along with a poor flowing
low-riser cast iron intake manifold.

Even the 9.17 wt/hp for the light 64' Belvedere (#3347 lbs.) put it at the wrong end of the 8.70 - 9.49 wt/hp (1964 A/S) class break.

In 1964, in A/S, they were really no threat to the;
,,,64' GTO 389/348 HP 'Tri-Power' 4-speeds
,,,64' Impala SS 409/380 HP 4-speeds
,,,64' Galaxie 500 427/410 HP 4-speeds

Their 'best bet',,,,,was in A/SA (automatics), with the famous 'push-button' controls.

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The latest issue of Mopar Action has a cool feature on a street wedge Dodge. They had "oiling issues" presumably due to their 4 quart oil pans. The physical casting of the block is comparatively fragile. The intake sucks and the carb is that infernal 525 cfm AFB that we had to dump ungodly amounts of money into to make work on our 383 H/SA car.

John Winslow runs a good looking '65 Coronet 426 Street Wedge in Super Stock out of Division 7. John isn't a rich guy but he lives in a hot bed for Mopar Stock/Super Stock and was still unable to make the combo work for Stock. It has turned to be pretty good for Super Stock after years of work.

If I was going to run one on the street I would paint a healthy later 440 turquoise and hide a reasonable carb under a big black aircleaner...

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

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My 65 belvedere T - U/S car was a 426 street wedge. I think it is faster with the 273 2 barrel carb than it was when I pulled the street wedge. They are defactored enough to be competitive.

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I have an original 1964 sport fury street wedge and it is no barn burner either.

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I mostly remember these in '65. On the street, the small exhaust valve cylinder heads, relatively mild cam and the little Carter AFB just didn't cut it against the other manufacturers offerings of the day. They were only about 2 to 3 tenths quicker than the 383 hipo's. You had the disadvantage of less than adequate tires that couldn't hook the bigger inches on the bottom end coupled with a poor breathing top end. NHRA refactor to 300hp makes a stocker another story.

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It seems like you gentelmen know what your talking about, so I have a question to test your knowledge ! What carburators brand, and the carb # number, ( I know 2), did the early 64 Ply or DODGE Race Hemi come with from the factory ?......Thanks .......John !

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Carter AFB 750 CFM with large 5 1/8 top. I am guessing 3705SA or 3861SA.

Boy am I Old!

I had a Red Belv. HT 426 S car. Had 11" Brakes and Bolt on Front Sway Bar.
It was a Very expensive option.......you could buy a lot of speed equipment with
the money you saved by ordering a 383 instead. We (Warren BighamCurrent Div 6 Tech
and I) put Max Wedge in it 415 HP and ran A/SA. Sold it in 77 to someone in OHIO out
of Ray Christians Shop. I think I may of bought it back from John Shaul in 90's and then
Greg at TriCity had it for a while after trading it from Don Cossey out of Tenn. They sure
get around!

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GTX John,,,,,,you said it,,,,,no else did,,,,,,,,;)

Had to look, but the 1964 A/S and A/SA Class Records
A/S,,,,,,,,,12.56 @ 112.99
A/SA,,,,,,12.80 @ 111.10

No 426-S 'Street-Wedge' cars running near that in Stock...

Fast-forward to 1970 where they would fit in E/S or E/SA.
E/S,,,,, 11.97 @ 115.83
E/SA,,,11.94 @ 115.22

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GTX-John, Thanks for the carb numbers, as I was digging through box's of carbs i found some that I thought were the originals from a steel Hemi car that a friend had , and took then of and gave them to me, when he changed to the Holleys ! And you think your old ! I just went to my 55 th H.S. class reunion ! Thanks again,,,,,John

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A good friend of mine who was a college roomy for a while had a '64 Dodge 330 2-dr sedan street wedge with a 4-speed and a 3.91 positrac. He was no match for my '68 Camaro 396-325hp. I beat him every which way - standing start, rolling start, corners, top end, even fuel mileage. And I beat him regularly, like very week. On top of that, the interior was cheap, the car was noisy, and not very pretty. (fugly) He sold the car.

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Dwight,,,,,,,,,the 64' Dodge won't win any 'beauty pageant awards'

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squi...06654_6b_1.jpg

Still remember those 426-S cars running in SS/G and SS/GA in
1969,,,,,and then again back in 1972,,,,,,they just wouldn't go away
Not pretty to look at,,,,,,,

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With open M/T headers, J.C. Penny slicks, 3.91 gears and the stock torque converter my 65 Belvedere 426-S ran low 13's in 1965. Couldnt run with the tri power GTO's but I could out run the single 4 cars even though they had a 4 speed.

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"the 64' Dodge won't win any 'beauty pageant awards"

Easy there, big fella! 1964 was a great year for Mopar "B" bodies...compared to 1963 they looked pretty good. The worst are the '62s--the Mr Potatohead of cars!

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

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Chris,
I didn't say the 64' Dodge was ugly,,,,,,,,,just that it wouldn't win any
'beauty pageants',,,,,,,,

Now if we're talking about ugly,,,,,,,
the 1961 Plymouth.
So ugly,,,,,,,you have to tie a 'pork chop' to the tire, just to get the
dog to pee on it......

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ac1mPlbSDRfWFw

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I took a ride in a brand new '64 Plymouth 426 S/4 speed convertible with one of my friends from auto shop. I didn't have a license yet....He did and was a notorious nutcase.....especially behind the wheel......The car was owned by a phys ed teacher and general all around "coolguy" and weight lifter.....(a pretty big dude). The car was black with red interior...and pretty nice....

Those cars may not have been real fast but it was good enough to get us real sideways and burn a heck of a lot of rubber on that little "test ride" I was hanging on for dear life......impressed the heck out of me at the tender age of about 16 or 17

We generally got a little crazy in auto shop and the same friend managed to blow the rear on a stick six Valiant that belonged to another shop teacher.....He was a squirrel.....but fun....

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P.S. The automatic GTO's and Olds 442's were no problem as they had that junk 2 speed automatics and torque converter science was in the "Stone Age" in 1965. The 3 speed torqueflite was king back in the day.

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LOL !!! My Dad says that era of Mopars looked like they were melting....and he's a Mopar man !!!!

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The factory initially utilized the Carter 3705 AFB's and with jetting and other minor changes designated the released hemi carbs as 3861's. Later in the year they changed to the Holley 3116's.

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If I ever get to the point of being financially unconstrained, I have always thought it would be massively cool to build one of these or a '60 model Batmobile model for Stock or Super Stock. There are some interesting engine combinations in '60 and '61. The cool factor is off the chart. Of course you would have to campaign the car with a mask on.

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Anyone see a 426-S in a 64' Belvedere Station Wagon.
had a weight break of 10.01 wt/hp,,,,,,,,,,
Not desirable from 64' thru 67', but in 1968 fit into
E/SA quite nicely,,,,,,,

pc

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In 1966 my 64 Dodge 330 2 dr (old Police Car) with 4.56 rear and fender well headers ran B/SA at a best of 13.5 and 99 mph (never could get to 100!)
this was my daily driver at the time. Long time ago.
Now my Jeep 4.0 runs R/SA at 12.90 and 100 MPH - Progress!

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Dwight,
Here's your 'new toy'
A 1960 Plymouth Savoy (Club Sedan)
361/310 HP 'Sonoramic Commando',,,,
Dual-quad, w/twin Carter 500 CFM carbs,,,,,,
Car weight; #3329 lbs........old weight factor of 10.74 wt/hp
'whale-tails' for aerodynamic control,,,,,,,,

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7470/60plymouth.jpg

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GTX John,

The car you spoke of was mine until I sold it to John Shaul.

*It was originally a 383 with white exterior and red interior, sold by a dealer in Connecticut.
*Raced by Domini & Shepard of Long Island, NY during the sixties and seventies.
*I bought it from them in 1980, painted it red and raced it in D1 as a A/SA and sold it to John in 1995(?)
*Gregg Luneack eventually ended up with it.
*Don Cosey still has it as far as I know.

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I remember D and S going through a lot of trouble to return the wheel wells to stock after racing it as a SSer. I miss those guys. The Hampton Raceway days in the 70s were by far the best.

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Was it this one.
http://www.fugly-racing.com/wp-conte...glyhrp2006.jpg

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OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its so ugly its almost cool.

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Kind of looks like a 59 Chevy going backwards.

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I had a '65 belvedere with the 426s, auto, posi and with the right tires I had no trouble with any of the single 4bbl cars of the time and could take the '64 tripower GTO's. Later we put the '64 Max wedge cam in it and put a 3705 on it and it ran mid 12's but it was never a true performance motor but I still wish I had one for the street today.

JimR

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I should have done the same thing with mine back in 1965 and still run stock.....LOL.

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It wouldn't work. As soon as we fired the thing up at Atco they started looking at us funny when they heard the cam but we got away with the carb.

JimR

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I remember my best ET was a 13.22. Never had the heads off. Just the gears, recurved the dist., headers and tires. I didnt know much about setting up a car back then. When I caught on and talked to some guys who were willing to help (The S.D. Pontiac bunch) I was drafted in Feb. of 66 and gave the car to my dad to trade in on a new Grand Prix for himself. Didnt know what the future would bring at the time. Kind of wished I had mine back to.

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1964 photo at Dover Drag Strip, Wingdale, New York
Doc Burgess in his A/SA, 1964 Plymouth Fury 426-S (365HP Street-Wedge),,
lettered 'The Mild 426'
The next year,,,,,,he got the 'Black Arrow',, a 1965 Race Hemi

As you can see, many Class Winner Decals for A/SA.
Pretty much consistent 13.80's @ 102 MPH, and street-driven.
The trophy,,,,awarded by Pepsi Cola, the track 'soft drink' provider.
Pepsi gave out the trophy and awards to the year end 'points winner' in Stock Class.
Doc was so happy, he ordered an A-990 Race Hemi in November 1964,,,,and
got a gentleman out of Berwyn, Pennsylvania to help him put it together.
http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=7325

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Weren't there a few racers like Bud Faubel, Bobby Harrop or the Ramcharger's team running 1964 Dodge hardtops as well...there's probably a few more racers out there but I can't think of them off the top of my head...anyways here's a couple of photo's of some 1964 Dodge hardtops.
http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/42...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

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Thanks for posting that photo. It's inspirational. Mild 426 indeed.

What would that car be now at 300 hp? E?

My 7 year old son keeps his '65 Black Arrow Plymouth in the back of his closet.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

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Here's a couple more 1964 Dodge & Plymouth hardtops.
http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg

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Both local cars to me when I lived in Md. Steel front end Pink Panther with a 415 HP Max Wedge and the Dodge with an alum front end and a 425 HP combo owned by Herb Freels. I certified the Pink Panthers engine for an IHRA record back in around 1971/72 at the Colonial Beech Va. points race when Sonny Freeman owned it. .
P.S. That looks like the pits at Aquasco Speedway in Southern Md. when the Dodge pix was taken.

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Double post.....sorry.