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numbers are up on nhra site

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Try this link:

http://www.nhra.net/content/sportsma...3946&zoneid=85

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Thanks Gary.

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Thanks for the link.
Can someone explain this to me. The '64 Fairlane 427 460 got 6 hp and according to Nitro Joe's stat book there is only one real SS bolt running this combo (Ray Paquet) and it only went -.807 under. I thought I was starting to understand the AHFS but evidently not.

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Paul Adams also runs this combo.

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Yeah the DP got horsepower but the 09-10 DP just got a bigger cam!!!!!!

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It doesn't matter if it is a "real" car. It only matters what you claim it as when you enter it. If someone clones a Thunderbolt and it is technically and cosmetically identical to a thunderbolt, then as far as NHRA is concerns, it is a Thunderbolt.
I appologize in advance to all those that have an original Thunderbolt. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes.

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According to the stat book Paul runs the 476hp combo.

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I get that. I was refering to Paquet and Calvert. Calvert entered his bolt in SS at Tucson which is a real stocker not SSer.

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Paul Adams got the HP on the 64 T-Bolt. There is only one FE engine in a 64 T-Bolt

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how soon do the competitor request adjustments come out

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Well, I guess I don't know why it received h.p. then.

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Angelo, they're also on the Lucas site.

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:rolleyes: Where's it going to end?

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The AHFS is a program based on actual run data compiled from all available runs at NHRA national events only. The data-based format provides the ability to calculate average performances for any class and/or engine combination in Stock and Super Stock. The trigger point for the system is 1.00-second or more under the respective index, and must be produced on two different occasions.

Interesting.....is the 2011 AHFS finalized yet.

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It's not. The factories can change the lift by .001 every year and get their bogus hp rating back, they don't even have to build the cars. One "press car" and a press release is all that's required.

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Gary
Did your combo just get 5 HP off?

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Mark, I wish, but that is the stick combo only. Mine is at 287. Just think 17 hp less for me. LOL Even I do not think that would be right.. Same motor , just a 4 speed

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That link shows the 1984 T-Bird/Cougar Turbo 2.3 rated @ a NEW 171 HP... ???

That's what is was factored to in April 2009 and is still in effect.....odd

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Paul runs both the aluminum headed and steel combos. Pretty sure the steel head was ran most of this year, though. The record was set in Columbus with the steel heads

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they are 2 versions of the SS 427HR, alum head and cast iron, that are legal

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The cam is the same. They just fixed the rocker problem.

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SS 283/220 to 227 for Chevelle and Full Size? I am assuming an Impala is Full Size right??? Man I hope so....

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Gary "Chicks dig STICKS"
LOL

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Guys running the 283/220 combo in GT won't like that.

ie Nicholson, Bichlmeier etc

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Daran Summerton SS 283/220 to 227 for Chevelle and Full Size? I am assuming an Impala is Full Size right??? Man I hope so....

I think your talking about chevelle and malibu thats full size cars the Impala is big car

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If a Chevelle is 227 then a Impala should be as well, I understand someone went really fast like 5 years ago but nothing lately.

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ok why should the chevelle and impala be at 227 ??

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You mean the factory sent the wrong specs out originally on both the rocker arm ratio and the cam lift? Yeah....Right!!!!!

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So we can have a chance against a 307 Olds :) Probably what I should have done but them dam 66 Impala's look so cool!!! I couldn't resist.

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The 2010 Mustang with the 352 remains at 295 HP....what a joke! After running 10-teens in E/SA at Indy. Yes, it got "hit" afterwards, but not enough to make a "dent". Sorry, just venting my frustration.

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Its really sad that the NHRA will not be pro active on this crap. They could fix the problem and complaining easy but they just turn a blind eye to the problem. In time some will just give up and return the cars to the street or try to sell out. A few will buy the new stuff if they can afford it and continue on. Then the NHRA will wonder where all the race cars and members have dissapeared to. The ones who will stay with the older combos will just hope they dont have a heads up run with one of these under rated combos during the eliminator. Class dosent pay anything much anyway so qualifyng will be the other issue of concern when and if they have more than 128 cars such as Indy. We will all be dead or to old to care anymore when the AHFS catches up.

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The Drag Pak 392 is rated at 375HP. Maybe they should put an SRT8 motor in them... :p
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/03/2...92-underrated/

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Daran the Impala/Bel-air/Biscayne are Big Cars, Chevelle/Malibu are Full Size. The Johnsons went fast 4-5 years ago and that was a nice 140 lbs hit. I have been through this a few times and there's just not enough Big Cars to bring the average down. The first time I made a request 3 yrs ago I was told point blank that the Big Car would NEVER get power back regardless of e-mails or phone calls or reviews. So with that being said, we will have to run the Full Size cars with the same combonation @ 165 lbs more, and that seems fair because of the aerodynamic advantage we have with the four door!

Matt Forbes

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RE: The 392/375. It is a 6.1 with a stroker with 2.1 less compression. For you Beard since you can't add, that's 370 cid to 392. The less compression is when you lose the dome on the piston. There are 56,743 gurus that have an opinion on what 2 pts of compression are worth. And most of them are on this forum. Your turn. Be sure to break it out into those cute little gray paragraphs that you do so well. Old guy. Eyes a little weak.

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Jeff, you are a hoot! lol

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Just like Sergeant Friday!! Just the facts! Fact 1. Yes the 392 DP engine is under rated. The street version makes 452 at the rear tires. NHRA rated at 375HP. What a joke. Now for comparison. Fact 2. The Camaro made 370 at the rear tire. NHRA rated 426 HP. I wonder which one is soft? Any ideas???

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The new Camaro is rated honestly. Would not make a good race car with those numbers, would it? Lol
That DP would be like 520 at the flywheel. Can you say bogus? Sad deal.

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No offence! But a Cajun could make that DP FLY!!!! LOL

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For sure.