Some afterseason thought
If your triple .000, one thou under giving up the stripe by one thou, what ARE the ways you can lose? My friend Bryan Sorce posted this on a forum yesterday and received some pretty interesting answers. So what do all of you think?
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Locking up the brakes through the finish line with smoke involved!!! This seems to raise some concern with track officials.
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Light at the scales or don't even stop or skip fuel check. Assuming a class car.
I keep reading the question looking for a trick but the best i figure your opponant is 002 under at best. |
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Angelo,
I meant a thou under. Re-read the question again. It can be confusing! My head hurt just writing it! Ryan |
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Easy...he took to much stripe. While Bryan may have driven the strip, when you break out...you break out and lose. Unless the other guy breaks out by more. in this case the other driver may have had a .009 light and been dead on. for a .009 package. leaving Bryanonly .009 to work with.
To really tell the story you need both sides of the time slip. |
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Re-read the question Bill. You're missing something. This wasn't an actual race. Just a question to get everyone thinking
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The other car made a perfect run to beat you. Is the first one that I can come up with, maybe the only way. I am not counting any boundry or scale type issues.
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If you went one thou under giving up the stripe by 1 thou. then your oppenent ran right on with a zero.
Or you crossed the center line to lose. |
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If a racer is .000 on the tree, -.001 under the dial, their total package is -.001 To lose by .001, nothing I can think of would cause you to lose (barring a track official DQ'ing you for something, excessibe breaking, boundary line violation). The opponent's package would have to be some combination of ET/RT to equal -.002, for them to take the one-thou stripe you mentioned. The only thing I can think of, would be if you ran too fast for what you/your car was certified for (i.e. running quicker than 7.50 with a competition license/chassis certification that is good to as quick as 7.50 but no quicker. It happened to Bo Butner in AA/SM (now known as CC/A) at the Indy LODRS in 2006, he ran 7.49 in qualifying, in a car that was certified only to 7.50, and was DQ'd from the event). |
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Two ways are possible.
Though you had a triple .000 it still can be on the red side, I have seen it before. Your opponents package is less than -.001 Ron Ortiz U/SA this is in earth sequential mathematics. |
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Don't the clocks read down to the fourth digit? the other guy can win by .0001.That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Ryan,you have too much time on your hands for a young guy.:>):>) |
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Ed's on the right track. Significant digits can play a role in this situation.
Excessive breaking, crossing the centerline or hitting the wall are among potential non-mathematical reasons for losing as well. |
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I'm with Ed on the mathematical side. I have seen a couple races won/lost by .0001/.0009, etc.
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After rereading it, scratch my first reply. I am not considering any boundry, tech,braking issues etc Mathematically I don't know if your time slip is a product of rounding up or down or not at all
example. if you light was .0009, would it read .000 or .001 ? same with all the numbers, reaction time,and dial and stripe time. I am guessing that they round a .0005 to a 001 and a .0004 to a 000. The reason that I state this is because with 2 variables going the opposite way, maybe you could lose this race mathematically. otherwise I don't think it is possible, I think you would be the winner, because the other car would need to breakout more even with a perfect light. So my question is how are the numbers rounded in the system ? |
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Eddyville IA's timing system provides the incrementals all the way out 4 digits past the decimal on paper. I had a perfect light in time trials, which displayed on the boards as ***. My time slip was .0007 or something like that. I dont think the system rounds up or down. You just may not see the 4th digit on your slip at most tracks.
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When I first saw this question posted on Facebook....I thought of a few simple answers to the question. I posted this on here, because I thought it would get everbody thinking and it def did. The answers are much better on classracer than they were on Bryan's original post on facebook that's for sure. I will say that I did not take into consideration that some tracks break down into 10 thousanths on the slip. I know Pittsburgh and a few other places in the northeast do this. Ron Ortiz brought up a good point with his answer. The original question not based off the 4th digit was worded..... If you're .000, break out by 1 thou, and give up the finish line by 1 thou....There is no mathematical way you can lose, except.....I came up with a few answers and some of you have listed them on here.
1.) Cross the centerline 2.) Hit the wall 3.) Excessive braking 4.) Run over the tree 5.) Come up light at the scales(Stock/Super Stock) 6.) Fail a (BAT) Def post if you think of anymore |
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Us old guys aren't the brightest bulbs in the box but we still have some current going to the bulb.:>):>):>) |
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Finally re-read the question.
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Red lite!CR
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