2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 

NHRA has rule updates for 2011 listed on NHRA.com

Quick review:

Stockers back to 1955
Valve springs in stock
Parachutes in stock (over 150)
Maximum weight limits
Gloves/neck collars for more classes
Trans shields/flexplates/flexplate shields in more classes
Wagons in SS/GT

Listed on front pages under Racer Updates

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Am I understanding this one correctly. You can not run heavier than the next lower classes Minimum weight? So there will be no more running 300 pounds heavy to slow down cars?

WEIGHT
All cars will be permitted to run on the class minimum weight, but may be no heavier
than the minimum for the next heavier class. Car can move up (lighter) one class or
down (heavier) one class. If weight is added, must be properly attached; see BALLAST.
Class and classification weight are determined without driver weight. Once classification
weight is calculated, 170 pounds is added for driver to arrive at total weight. All cars are
weighed with driver.

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Terrific - I'll start building my "Black Widow" '57 Bel Air 283 / 250hp powerglide car ASAP .......Or at least when the economy changes .

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Of much importance to you shall we say plus sized racers, or the overweight stocker/super stocker trying to avoid getting a HP hit......yet still running all out....

All cars will be permitted to run on the class minimum weight, but may be no heavier
than the minimum for the next heavier class.

Eric

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One new class has been added (AA Front Wheel). Does that mean the rumor of the factory cars in their own class goes away?

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Jack, me first!!!!!!

Wade O

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i think the Max weight rule has been a long time coming. If you are heavy enough to run D/SA, you are D/SA, as long as the car fits that class, even if you did put C/SA on the sheet.

Also notice that now heim joint tie rods (bump steer kits) are legal now, after much heated debate.

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Looks like the VW bugs and beetles will be in SS. My dad will be glad. I like the 55 on rule a lot. Other changes that just make a lot of common sense especially on the safety front.

Let the building begin.

Eric

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They highlighted "NHRA approved aftermarket cylinder blocks" for s/ss..is this new for stock??

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Do I understand correctly that now "any" valve spring is permitted, including dual springs "provided no modification to head is performed."? But that removing the "step" on Mopar heads would be considered a "modification"?

IHRA usually follows NHRA.

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can't wait to see that list. I'm sure dart/world products/etc lobbied for it. I will say that small bore bowtie big blocks are made in very short supply and are quite a bit more expensive than a dart/world block. Last time there was a run of 50 they were gone before we could get our hands on one. There have been SOME aftermarket blocks in SS for a few years now, its only fair to open it up. There should be no benefit to them other than beig able to buy a block that you don't have to spend a fortune on to race it.

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Did anyone notice that the "special production run, minimum of 50 units, need not be showroom available" is gone ?......I didn't see it where it usually is/was.....if it has been deleted.....what does that do to the Mustangs and DP's ????.....


D L Rambo.....

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i just noticed that............................do a bunch of people now own Super Stock cars?

I doubt it, it was probably deleted to give them even more leeway seeing as that the crate motor CJ's were never "built"

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Wouldn't that add value to them!

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DESIGNATIONS
Reserved for 1955 or newer model-year factory- production automobiles and some
sports cars. Classified per NHRA performance rating as listed in the Official NHRA
Stock Car Classification Guide. Only those cars listed in the guide are eligible for
competition. All cars in Stock classes must be factory production assembled, showroom
available, and in the hands of the general public. A minimum 500 units of a particular
body style must be produced.

Those last two sentences might cause a bit of an uproar...

If I had to guess I'd say the cars that are already in the guide are fine, but the ones coming down the pipe are SS cars. Then again, what do I know?

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IF they are able to close the barn door now, and will be PROACTIVE in getting the HP factors right, that should fix a lot of the real world problems. Doesn't solve the issue of them not being "showroom available"

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Didn't see anything that really affects my project, :D ,though I am sure others already out there maybe affected. Glad they posted updates early enough that there is time to make any changes before the season begins in 2011.

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Kevin,you should try to track down your 57 chevy s/stocker. I don't know how many of the older cars will be built (cost, availability, etc.) It might be a good change for the class, and for any fans of those cars. John gsa612

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I still think after Pomona will come a decision on the cj and dp cars. Maybe they think by letting in the 1955 and up cars they will make up the difference of the cars that will drop out.

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I may be wrong but I believe that only the paragraphs that have rule changes are listed. The paragraph that mentions 50 special run units stays as is if it is not mentioned. Just my 2 cents.:D

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I think the 245 hp is better then the injection 250 hp. I have a friend with a 57 bel air body, like my car from the sixties, but not the 25,000 or so dollars to build it.

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Does this mean it is a good time to dig my ole 57 chevy injection unit and the matched set of heads out of the garage, and advertise as "stocker builder up material"? Or better yet, does this mean that it is time to start searching the yards for a wrecked Impala SS car for stock. Seems like possibly a 303 hp LS4 v8 front wheel drive might work now as a stocker? AAFS?

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Maybe the AA/FS could be another way of saying the Blossom Rule?

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Nhra should allow Mechanical to Electronic Fuel Injection Conversions too....
that would wake these old cars up, and "IT's STOCK", sorta!!

Or Maybe, after 55 years, someone will discover or uncover some long lost, overlooked, under utilized superseded parts, factory memo and / or specs that would make these old bricks super competitive.... stranger things have happened, right?

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How about a link for the rule changes i jhate navagating that @##^&%&* site.

Thanks!

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HOLY COW! They actually did this?! I've been running that one up the flagpole for two years now! Good, common sense rule. -=applause!=- Thank you, NHRA!

Re: AAF/S.... uh, why don't they create some realistic weight breaks for the FWD classes instead of tacking onto the top? It's not like there are no letters in the alphabet past "E". :rolleyes: While the "big cars" fight full-pound weight breaks because they'd have to "carry so much weight", what about the weight difference between DF/S and EF/S... 2,241 vs 2,895. 650LBS? SERIOUSLY?!

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Thanks!!!!

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Wow looks like some people got busy in Glendora lot of changes..

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Tony - You're probably right - the 245hp will make more power but having those crossed flags and emblems on the quarter panel would just make me feel good ....................

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Will this new rule change allow the often talked about D/Dart into stock?

Chrysler told NHRA they made 50 and they certainly made over 500 '66 regular Darts. Does this fit the new rules?

JimR

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Now would be the perfect time to finally utilize the software that's already been written, so that the WORST red light is the loser.

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oh dear lord, between that and the bracket racers who want to do away with heads up runs......................NOWHERE in drag racing does the worst redlight lose

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http://www.afunnystuff.com/forumpics/notagain.jpg

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now thats some funny stuff ...........

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I'm laughing my *** off over here Alan

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Im laughing at NHRA for allowing all of this BS to go on as long as it has !

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Allan, I wish you had not taken it down before I could read it. :-(

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amen !!!