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ssdeuce 07-25-2010 02:57 PM

getting started
 
Hey all i'm just startin on a g body monte carlo for stock have trouble understanding all the rules read the rulebook looking forother places to get more info and anyone that has a g body i'd love to see some pics of the cars and under the hood just to get an idea on what i can do and parts i can use really want to make sure i do it right and legal any help would be more than appreciated.

ssdeuce 07-25-2010 09:52 PM

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anybody not lookin for short cuts just need pointed in the right direction i'll do the reading and r&d

rick lester 07-25-2010 11:01 PM

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What in the rulebook do you not understand. Yes there are some gray areas but its pretty much cut and dry. Remember that when you remove the hvac stuff off the firewall you must make a piece to replace lip to hold weatherstripping. Go to your nearest div. race or an s/ss asc. race. You'll find at least one person willing to answer all your questions.

ssdeuce 07-26-2010 11:43 AM

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thats one question i had about the a/c box delete but it must retain the upper lip goin to cecil counties lucas oil race in aug. got to go over the rule book while acually lookin at the car probably help

Chris "drooze" Wertman 07-26-2010 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ssdeuce (Post 200403)
Hey all i'm just startin on a g body monte carlo for stock have trouble understanding all the rules read the rulebook looking forother places to get more info and anyone that has a g body i'd love to see some pics of the cars and under the hood just to get an idea on what i can do and parts i can use really want to make sure i do it right and legal any help would be more than appreciated.


Biggest piece of advice I can give ?

If you have really (RTFM) then ask the question here, explaining how YOU believe you understood it.

Ignore any flames, and wait for an answer someone will help, sometimes by PM, you cant believe how many questions I have had answered by all the wonderfull class racers here via PM who dont post in the public light.

You wont get an answer if you dont ask, OR you expect (and I certainly dont think this is the case) someone else to figure it out for you.

Learn to grow a thick skin, the answers are here, the combined experience of racers here is usnderstimated by new people, myself included.

j gardiner 07-26-2010 01:03 PM

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The piece your talking about ,the lip that goes under the hood,you can get from one of the vendors that advertises on malibu racing .com. Other than that what else would you like to know.

Robert Swartz 07-26-2010 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris "drooze" Wertman (Post 200647)
Ignore any flames, and wait for an answer someone will help, sometimes by PM, you cant believe how many questions I have had answered by all the wonderfull class racers here via PM who dont post in the public light.


Learn to grow a thick skin, the answers are here, the combined experience of racers here is understimated by new people, myself included.


Chris, I agree with what you say here. These two lines say alot. Only other thing I can add. IF you have a question, think it out and give as much information as possible. The more information YOU provide, the better a chance you will get a response.

As Chris said, many that offer the best advise, DON'T post on the forum that often.

Good luck,

desbird 07-26-2010 02:05 PM

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what g body i have some 78-80 grand prix light wt. stock stuff also 78-80 montie and olds cutlass chuck

ssdeuce 07-26-2010 10:31 PM

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gonna pick up an 86 monte carlo ss 305 for 300$ start strippin it down by my calc. i should end up in k/sa but should be heavy enough to put it in l/sa if i figured right hopefully first drivetrain setup should get me below index start slow learn my self faster.

ssdeuce 07-26-2010 10:56 PM

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how bout the suspension front can't have any aftermarket control arms but can change bushings correct, and the rears can be aftermarket but have to be nhra approved how do i know which are or aren't. also can i use an aftermarket trans crossmember for a th350 in the g body that i didn't find in the rulebook.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 07-27-2010 12:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ssdeuce (Post 200799)
how bout the suspension front can't have any aftermarket control arms but can change bushings correct, and the rears can be aftermarket but have to be nhra approved how do i know which are or aren't. also can i use an aftermarket trans crossmember for a th350 in the g body that i didn't find in the rulebook.

Under the Competiton tab of the NHRA Site, there is a link to Accepted Products

Here is the direct link.

http://www.nhra.com/userfiles/file/N...roducts-11.pdf

I would read it and learn everything about your engine / options / desires you can, in my case I have been limited because of the lack of availability of approved products for the package I last worked on.

BUT for you .... it should be chock full of dollar spending goodness.

Mark Yacavone 07-27-2010 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ssdeuce (Post 200799)
how bout the suspension front can't have any aftermarket control arms but can change bushings correct, and the rears can be aftermarket but have to be nhra approved how do i know which are or aren't. also can i use an aftermarket trans crossmember for a th350 in the g body that i didn't find in the rulebook.

The rears don't have to be on a list. Just follow the guidelines in the rulebook.
If they're buying that weebie jeebie stuff, they ought to buy just about anything.

You might get away with the crossmember. I don't think they've specifically addressed that issue yet. I know they wouldn't want to see some flimsy, lightweight thing under there.
Just modify a stock one if you're looking for header clearance on the left side.
You ought to be using a TH 200 , but the mount is in the same place anyway.

ssdeuce 07-27-2010 06:57 AM

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thanks for the link i missed that one answered alot of questions like to use a th200 but i got 2 th350's so work with them till i can get fancy

Greg Hill 07-27-2010 09:37 AM

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Listen more and talk less. I don't mean you are too talkative, but if you will listen to people that have been doing this for a while you cn learn a whole lot.

treessavoy 07-27-2010 01:13 PM

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Attend a race and look for a combo like yours, talk to the owner, racers like to help others, ask him if you can take detailed pictures and ask questions and take notes...most racers will be glad to help you.

Oh, Welcome to the toughest drag racing class in the NHRA!

JimR

ssdeuce 07-27-2010 02:34 PM

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thats the plan should be at a lucas oil race in august and the toyo tire national at reading just for research.


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