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R. Thorne 03-30-2010 06:12 AM

IHRA classification guide
 
Does IHRA have classification guide and or current HP available online for stock? Found HP corrections only. Thanks, Ron.

Mike Carr 03-30-2010 09:44 AM

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To the best of my knowledge, no they don't. I believe they follow the NHRA classification and HP, with some exceptions. For example, the '93-'98 LT-1 is rated 279 in NHRA S/S, and still at 275 in IHRA. IHRA allows pre-1960 cars in Stock, NHRA does not. IHRA also has some different classes not offered in NHRA (Crate Motor Stock, Stock GT, Pure Stock, Super Stock Production, as well as seperate Truck, EFI classes and more FWD Stock classes). Some HP ratings will differ. On the Tech page there, there should be contact info for all the IHRA tech personel, best bet would be to contact someone and get an answer.

Eric Merryfield 03-30-2010 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by R. Thorne (Post 178531)
Does IHRA have classification guide and or current HP available online for stock? Found HP corrections only. Thanks, Ron.

Not online. Contact Tech. If a new combo they follow whats on the NHRA's site. They don't follow the NHRA's increases, just the decreases, and also have as has been stated truck, FI, and pure stock.

You might get your answer just as quick asking here from a racer running that combo.

Eric

R. Thorne 03-30-2010 06:16 PM

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Thanks, guys, for the info.

danny waters sr 03-31-2010 06:49 AM

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What is the application. ? I have a set of books and may can help.

greg fulk 03-31-2010 10:04 PM

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Danny 80-81 Z-28 with a 305?????

Patrick Kelliher 04-01-2010 06:55 AM

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I believe it is the same as the non Z-28 '81 camaro at 241 HP.

danny waters sr 04-01-2010 08:41 AM

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80 Z/28 = 180/ 238, 14.35 break= natural M class.........80 Berlinetta Z/28 =180/238 , 14.55 break = natural N class........81 Z/28 not listed. only Berlinetta & camaro listed = 155/241 ,14.31 break = natural M class ,regular camaro is same hp with a 14.08 break . Hope this helps.

Patrick Kelliher 04-01-2010 09:01 AM

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Whats the major body difference between an '80 and '81

danny waters sr 04-01-2010 11:10 AM

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Not sure . They look pretty much the same. Anybody know ?

Mike Carr 04-01-2010 11:32 AM

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Danny, is the 1992 Olds Toronado Trofeo rated 231/170-170 and have a weight break of 20.26, as in NHRA?

danny waters sr 04-01-2010 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 179153)
Danny, is the 1992 Olds Toronado Trofeo rated 231/170-170 and have a weight break of 20.26, as in NHRA?

Mike,That's what i got in my book . You are correct.

Mike Carr 04-01-2010 08:01 PM

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Ok, can you take ten horsepower off please? Thanks a bunch.

LOL. Just wanted to make sure it was the same. I was kidding abou taking HP off. Unless you want to go ahead and do it. :)

greg fulk 04-01-2010 10:03 PM

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Thanks Danny! I'm just trying to get the car to fit "N" that way I don't have to put a roll bar in the car....way to good of a car to cut up! Car was only on the road for 11 or 12 years...it moved under it's own power for the first time since 1992 Monday! Mine is a loaded out "T" top car light blue ext blue int :)

danny waters sr 04-02-2010 05:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greg fulk (Post 179328)
Thanks Danny! I'm just trying to get the car to fit "N" that way I don't have to put a roll bar in the car....way to good of a car to cut up! Car was only on the road for 11 or 12 years...it moved under it's own power for the first time since 1992 Monday! Mine is a loaded out "T" top car light blue ext blue int :)

Have you thought about pure stock as in f, g, h ,natural g car ? these are 1 lb weight breaks. Mike, Take off 10 and add 200 lb's lol. Just kiddin. I wish they'd let me run a 3 speed auto in my 66 nova.

greg fulk 04-02-2010 05:16 PM

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But Danny you can....in SS! ;)

Robert Swartz 04-02-2010 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greg fulk (Post 179328)
Thanks Danny! I'm just trying to get the car to fit "N" that way I don't have to put a roll bar in the car....way to good of a car to cut up! Car was only on the road for 11 or 12 years...it moved under it's own power for the first time since 1992 Monday! Mine is a loaded out "T" top car light blue ext blue int :)

Greg,

Are you going to run your Camaro as a stocker now?

greg fulk 04-02-2010 10:28 PM

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It is set-up as a Street/Strip car right now (I just bought new rubber today for all four corners) BUT if I would happen to sell the Cutlass then I have to have a "class" car & quick! That being said I have an engine & trans all I would need to do is a gear change! ;)

Mark Yacavone 04-02-2010 11:34 PM

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Can someone post the IHRA Pure Stock weight breaks . Specifically, the bottom 2 or 3?

It might be the only place to race without a diaper, in a few years.

BTW ,IHRA cars and indexes are legal to run at our combo races.

Mike Carr 04-03-2010 12:01 AM

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Mark, A/PS to I/PS. One pound weight breaks.
A - 8.00 Index 12.05
B - 9.00 Index 12.45
C - 10.00 Index 12.75
D - 11.00 Index 13.10
E - 12.00 Index 13.40
F - 13.00 Index 13.75
G - 14.00 Index 14.05
H - 15.00 Index 14.30
I - 16.00-16.99 Index 14.55

Mark Yacavone 04-03-2010 02:02 AM

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Thanks, Mike
So, is there a weight penalty for a stick shift?

Robert Swartz 04-03-2010 06:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 179556)
Thanks, Mike
So, is there a weight penalty for a stick shift?

Mark,

Straight from the rule book.

Pure Stock
These classes are for street type cars which have minor modifications to the engine,
chassis, transmission, carburetor, etc., unless it is specifically stated that a modification
or optional equipment is permitted. No turbo or super charged cars allowed. A through I
are the only available classes, with the same class breaks as stock, "Class weight breaks
and indexes are for both stick and automatic".
Numbers must be at least 4” high on all 4 windows.
CLASS WEIGHT BREAKS FOR STICK AND AUTOMATIC:
A/PS ....................8.00 to 8.99
B/PS ....................9.00 to 9.99
C/PS ....................10.00 to 10.99
D/PS ...................11.00 to 11.99
E/PS ....................12.00 to 12.99
F/PS.....................13.00 to 13.99
G/PS ....................14.00 to 14.99
H/PS ...................15.00 to 15.99
I/PS......................16.00 to 16.99

danny waters sr 04-03-2010 06:48 AM

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Battery up front, Water pump and alternator must be driven by crankshaft. Headers permitted ,but must run mufflers that do not go straight threw. cannot uncap headers,Stock type fuel pump must be used.one electric pump allowed when used through stock mechanical pump.you may remove other drive belts such as power steering ,a/c ,ect............. and there is more rules listed on page 63 of the 2010 IHRA rule book.Should be able to go on line and find these rules.

Lyn Smith 04-03-2010 08:29 AM

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no hoosier radials allowed because they say 30" on the side wall desigination!! tires must say 29.5 or smaller.

LSP 04-03-2010 11:23 AM

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Great class, IHRA Pure Stock engine rules are pretty much the same as NHRA stock engine rules were in the 80's before things started to become "unstock".

danny waters sr 04-03-2010 05:08 PM

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Be careful on your cam and springs too.

greg fulk 04-08-2010 12:53 AM

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M/T makes a 29.5x9 that is legal! Truman got M/T to make them

jmcarter 08-09-2010 08:06 AM

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Does the 80 Volare with 360 have the same 185/289 rating as does NHRA? Would weigh 3345 for G and 3490 for H in NHRA.

May be a question for Danny Waters but anyone who knows the answer I'd appreciate it.

danny waters sr 08-09-2010 09:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 203258)
Does the 80 Volare with 360 have the same 185/289 rating as does NHRA? Would weigh 3345 for G and 3490 for H in NHRA.

May be a question for Danny Waters but anyone who knows the answer I'd appreciate it.

IHRA hp is 185/285.stock class weight in g is=3305 & h is3447. Hope this helps.

jmcarter 08-09-2010 09:38 AM

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Thanks Danny...may be seeing how much changes I've made will pick me up before going to Indy and Union race looks like it may work out for me.

danny waters sr 08-09-2010 09:46 AM

Re: IHRA classification guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 203271)
Thanks Danny...may be seeing how much changes I've made will pick me up before going to Indy and Union race looks like it may work out for me.

Good Luck !

Jim Woods 08-09-2010 10:54 AM

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Lyn,
You can now run the hoosier as long as it measures no more than the 29.5 I talked with Jonny and Mike about this. Hoosier will not label sidewalls @ 29.5 ,however as long as they measure correctly you may run them. Also all cams require stock duration for pure stock and the other items like Danny said.

Mike Savelle 08-09-2010 03:44 PM

Re: IHRA classification guide
 
Danny What is the HP rating for a 1995 Trans Am LT1 engine for stock ? Mike

danny waters sr 08-09-2010 04:47 PM

Re: IHRA classification guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Savelle (Post 203367)
Danny What is the HP rating for a 1995 Trans Am LT1 engine for stock ? Mike

275/ 325 for stock. pure stock is 275/315. hope this helps

Bobby Zlatkin 08-10-2010 08:55 AM

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Danny, I thought only 5 HP off in pure stock on FI cars running the original trans.

danny waters sr 08-10-2010 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin (Post 203464)
Danny, I thought only 5 HP off in pure stock on FI cars running the original trans.

Just reading what's in my books. I will check the master books this weekend in Michigan.

Mike Carr 08-10-2010 03:24 PM

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Danny you have a PM.

ALMACK 08-15-2010 11:09 AM

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Speaking of IHRA Pure Stock, (of which I want to run)... I see where the rulebook says you have to have the stock trans for yr. and h.p. claimed.
The way I understand the wording is that the automatic is restricted to a shift kit and convertor only.

However, the wording on the manual trans does not list any internal restrictions. Does that mean I could run a fully race prepped T-5 in my 95 Mustang GT ...as long as the outside of the trans appears stock for my 95 ?

Just curious...not that a 14 sec. car needs a full tilt T-5 :D

BMFRACING 08-15-2010 09:13 PM

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Thinking of running my 1993 mustang in crate motor. What class would the 340 hp 302 be in, or the 450 hp 347. Thanks Bob

Chris1529 08-16-2010 04:39 AM

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bmf racing, you'll need to let us know what body style you have.

almack, I think that is correct.


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