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danspony 03-04-2010 05:07 PM

The riddler ss/IA recently found
 
Hi, I just purcased a 1970 ply duster drag car , after some research i found it is one of colities ss/Ia cars I am looking for any info i can find .any mag or articals pics ect .
thaks dan you can call me at 330 316 4407

Jeff Lee 03-04-2010 05:12 PM

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Contact track Manager Victoria Griffey @ Speedworld in Whitman, Arizona. The # is 623-388-2424
Colletti was an owner of the track not long ago. He passed away a few years ago (3-5 years ago?) but I know the track had many pictures of the car. I believe his wife still lives in the area.

Paul Ceasrine 03-04-2010 05:27 PM

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Danspony,
I will track the info tonite..Post it later. Coletti Chrysler-Plymouth out of
Hillsboro, Oregon. We were running 340's the same time they were.
We kind of followed what they did..They were the pre-dominant 340
specialists back then,,as I'm sure you know. Is the car a previous
G/SA converted to SS/IA, or the SS/IA only car???...Joseph Coletti
won the 70' Winternationals G/SA class with the Duster. Is that the car??
Paul,,,your helpful 340 friend..

Ken Haase 03-04-2010 05:40 PM

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Actually, it was Mark Coletti that won the Winters. He was the youngest ever to win a Nat'l event at the time. Oh, I see you're saying Joe (the Dad) won Class in '70. I think Mark won in '68, with a 340 'cuda.

danspony, I've got a 'vintage' ( that means a few holes) Coletti Riddler tee shirt if you want it. It could be used to produce some new one's by silkscreen process. I don't think any "rights" would be violated. I could e-mail you a pic.

larry dowty 03-04-2010 06:03 PM

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danspony call jim olson back in the day he used to travel and work for them on the cars i know he has pics and info from the old days
jim olson 253 639 4074

Paul Ceasrine 03-04-2010 06:43 PM

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Larry and Ken,,
Joe, the dad won the 70' Winternationals G/SA class with the 70' Duster
running a 12.67 @ 98.79 (on the brakes)...Yes the son Mark won one year earlier,,,at the 69' Winternationals in F/SA,,with a 69' 340 Cuda, running a 12.82 @ 107.01 defeating Cal Method in his J/SA 57' Chevy,,which ran a 13.55....I do believe John Hagen (factory Hemi fame) out of Minnesota had involvement with the Coletti's engines..The NHRA re-factored the 340 to 300HP in 68' (the bastards) after Jim McFarland
drove the Sox & Martin prepped 68' 340 Cuda E/SA to Stock Eliminator runner-up at the 68' Winternationals...McFarland ran a 12.92 @108.46
in losing to Stock Champ John Barkley in a 57' Chevy M/SA, who ran a
14.59....Sorry about that,,,But I wake up to a bowl of '340 Flakes' every morning..Those 340's were really dialed in out a Pomona...
Paul,,,Oh, we ran a 68' 340 Cuda in SS/I,,11.75's in 73',,Never lost in class...Lots of Dover Drag Strip stickers...

Lyn Smith 03-04-2010 07:48 PM

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Didnt Steve Benyo from Pittsburg have one of the Colletti's cars back in the early to mid 80,s?

Paul Ceasrine 03-04-2010 10:41 PM

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Danspony,,,
The "Riddler III" G/SA Duster, can be found in the May 1971 Super Stock & Drag Illustrated Magazine..Feature article..It set the G/SA National
Record in September 1970,,,12.40 ET..I think that may be the car that
was turned into the SS/IA car...possibly 72'/73'??
Paul,,, does that help...

danspony 03-05-2010 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Haase (Post 172987)
Actually, it was Mark Coletti that won the Winters. He was the youngest ever to win a Nat'l event at the time. Oh, I see you're saying Joe (the Dad) won Class in '70. I think Mark won in '68, with a 340 'cuda.

danspony, I've got a 'vintage' ( that means a few holes) Coletti Riddler tee shirt if you want it. It could be used to produce some new one's by silkscreen process. I don't think any "rights" would be violated. I could e-mail you a pic.


I'd love to have the tee shirt. Let me know what you want for it with the shipping to Ohio. Your help is much appreiciated. Dan

danspony 03-05-2010 09:53 AM

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I want to thank eveyone for their help, so much information too bad there's work to do I would love to just research this for hours.
Paul- Hi, I don't know at this time if it was run G/SA or not. I didn't think it was but I have more research to do. Thanks Dan
Lyn- I don't know that is something I need to look into. Thanks Dan

Ken Haase 03-05-2010 01:12 PM

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Dan, you have a PM.

mike natoli 03-05-2010 04:18 PM

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Cool car with Great Heritage Good luck

Bob Nottingham 03-06-2010 12:39 AM

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This my be the car at Seattle in 1971. Final round against my chev. Bob

Paul Ceasrine 03-07-2010 08:58 AM

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danspony,,
Check out this site (the h.am.b. junior stock)
Page 176,,,scroll down to #3512.
Paul

danspony 03-07-2010 10:47 AM

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Thanks for the info but we haven't been able to bring up this site. Is there more info on it. Thanks Dan:confused:

Chuck Norton 03-07-2010 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danspony (Post 173487)
Thanks for the info but we haven't been able to bring up this site. Is there more info on it. Thanks Dan:confused:

Start here, <http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201085>, go to page 176 after the message board loads.

c

Paul Ceasrine 03-08-2010 02:55 AM

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Chuck,Thanks for leading danspony in through the front door of the site.I just go to Google and type in,, the h.a.m.b. junior stock,, and then pick up another page and work my way to page 176.As for the Coletti's, did anyone also know, that the Pop Joe lost in the E/SA class finals with his 68' 340 Cuda, to eventual Stock Eliminator Runner-Up Jim McFarland, in the Sox & Martin prepped 340 Cuda.KT,,Joe Coletti set the E/SA record in April 68' 12.79 @ 109.75Paul,,

danspony 03-09-2010 11:28 AM

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Thanks guys for the help. I can't believe all the responses. It's been educationaland not like high school it's interesting. :D

Paul Ceasrine 03-12-2010 06:33 AM

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danspony,
If you ever wan't to part with that car....I guess not..
check out page 1, post #2 on the h.a.m.b. site. Another 'killer' 340,
Ed Hamburgers SS/IA Duster..By the way, I know where a Coletti (1970)
special pinion snubber rests..
Paul

Rusty Gillis 03-12-2010 07:11 AM

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I ran Mark the first round of Super Stock at the 1972 Winternationals with my SS/GA Mustang. I broke out with an 11.327 on a 11.43 record on the brakes. I believe it was the Riddler II.

danspony 03-12-2010 03:12 PM

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Paul, There's always a possibity of a sale ( I always say everything has a price, it makes my wife nervious) I would be very interested in the snubber if it's for sale. Thanks

Paul Ceasrine 03-12-2010 08:05 PM

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Dan,,,
Do you know of any other kind of wife..I have been told NO, I cannot ask you if you want to sell the Duster.. My wife said 'that I'm not allowed to have any fun anymore'..That ended in 1983..The 'Coletti Pinion Snubber' can be located on this site..go to the 'original hemi dart thread',,,,,,,, page 10,,,post #94..Thats my car 69' M-Code 440 Cuda,,after I sold it,,then my father found it and raced it again..I can un-bolt the snubber with (3) easy bolt removals..If I get it,, its yours for Free...Just keep the Duster.....
Paul,,,I can still dream though!!!..

danspony 03-13-2010 08:29 AM

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HI PAUL sounds like you need a new wife or more training, I have been ttraining my wife for 36 years , she will tell you she is training me , any way I would love to have the snuber and will gladly pay for it THANKS DAN

Rory McNeil 03-13-2010 11:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Nottingham (Post 173261)
This my be the car at Seattle in 1971. Final round against my chev. Bob

I don`t know if the Colletis had more than 1 Duster, or if it was repainted later on, but the "Riddler" Duster that I remember seeing in the 1972-74 period was much more colorful. It had a very elaborate pinstripe "maze" on the hood, with some very bright green accents. It certainly stood out, and considering some of the wild physcidylic(sp) paint schemes of the day, thats saying something!

danspony 03-13-2010 07:46 PM

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HI BOB, the colettis ran sevral dusters in the early 70s how many im not sure I have pics of 4 differant dusters there might be more ???????

bill dedman 03-14-2010 12:59 AM

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Back in the very early '70s I had a friend named Charlie Malyuke, who worked in the machine shop at Gary Ostrich's engine building faciliy in Nevada, IOWA. They did contract work for the Chrysler Corporation back when it apparently had plenty of money to do things "right."

I needed a cam for my 340 street racer (did I say THAT???), and told Charlie. He walked over to a shelf and pulled off a used 340 cam and said; "This one will pick your car up a bunch.


It did... about 3 car-lengths over the stock 340 cam.

It turned out to be the cam that was in the Winternationals-winning Coletti "Riddler."
Coletti had sent that Stocker engine to Gary Ostrich to have it converted to a Super Stocker, and now, it was the cam without a home... until Gary sold it to me. Sixty dollars with the original lifters, identified as to which lobes they were "married" to.. and a new set of 340 valve springs... such a deal!!! Three car lengths for sixty bucks!!!

My '64 Valiant 340 2-door, that was the recipient of that cam was the only car I ever owned that never lost a race (probably ran a scorching 12.80...), but you have to love a car that never lets you down... LOL! That was a Lunati grind called "The Riddler," I later found out.

Sold the whole car for $350.00 in 1980, when I moved to California. Yeah; I'm a genius, for sure...

danspony 03-14-2010 09:28 AM

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BILL,those realy wher the good old days, I Can remember geting a tickit for drag racing in 1972 I lost my licencs and payed a small fine { my girll frind payed it now my wife and wont let me forget it ,i was broke } today you would be hung!! I later sold that car { 1968 gtx - engine } for 300.00 bucks, if you would have had a cristell ball . sorry about the typing i am not good at this but i am forced to move into the 80 s , DAN

Myron Piatek 03-14-2010 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 174853)
Back in the very early '70s I had a friend named Charlie Malyuke, who worked in the machine shop at Gary Ostrich's engine building faciliy in Nevada, IOWA. They did contract work for the Chrysler Corporation back when it apparently had plenty of money to do things "right."...

Bill,
Charlie Malyuke did a lot of work on the low deck Pro Stock Hemi's, didn't he? John Hagen perhaps? I seem to remember an article about 383 and/or 400 blocks being welded up for Hemi heads.

Chris DeGidio 03-14-2010 02:56 PM

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There was a D/MP Duster that had the "Riddler" name in the same font as what has been posted.The driver was Jess Heitman.I think he's from Oregon.Saw a picture in the Hot Rod magazine Mopar special edition from a few years ago.

Paul Ceasrine 03-15-2010 02:51 AM

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340 Info.
The Riddler III, is obviously the 340 Duster G/SA from 70'. There were
(3) paint schemes..Also, several wheel/mag changes on the car, and grille and tail-light changes to go from 70'-to-71', to utilize the Thermo-Quad carb, when deemed neccesary. I think the SS/IA car came into play in 72'. I'm not sure if the paint scheme had it Riddler IV, or it was just
lettered Riddler. More 70's magazine reading.
Danspony,,I'm not kidding, if I get the 'snubber', its yours..What am I
going to do with it.. as I said earlier,,my wife said 'no more fun',,I'm still in training!!!
Paul

bigshow2966 03-15-2010 05:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 174914)
Bill,
Charlie Malyuke did a lot of work on the low deck Pro Stock Hemi's, didn't he? John Hagen perhaps? I seem to remember an article about 383 and/or 400 blocks being welded up for Hemi heads.


I think Landy was involved in the 383 Hemi deal too. A guy on Moparts posted pictures of one a while back, when another one turned up on E-bay.

Paul Ceasrine 03-15-2010 06:23 PM

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The 'Riddler II' was the same 68' Cuda that Pop Joe Coletti ran at the 68' Winternationals. E/SA class runner-up to Jim McFarland, in the 68'
340 Cuda (Sox & Martin car).
The son, Mark, ran the 'Riddler II' to the 69' Stock Eliminator Title at the
Winternationals.
Paul

Hemi Moose 11-12-2011 07:28 PM

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Any new updates on the Coletti Duster you found, because I came across this old photo that shows "three" Coletti Riddler Dusters in the background behind Coletti's 71 Riddler 'Cuda...so which one is yours.
http://images109.fotki.com/v787/phot...nters18-vi.jpg

bill dedman 11-12-2011 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 174914)
Bill,
Charlie Malyuke did a lot of work on the low deck Pro Stock Hemi's, didn't he? John Hagen perhaps? I seem to remember an article about 383 and/or 400 blocks being welded up for Hemi heads.

Yes, Myron; John Hagen set the last Pro Stock (pre 500cid) mph record with one of those motor, and runner-upped in a squeaker, to Lee Shepard at Pomona II that year .

I believe that was 1981. It had enjoyed only ONE YEAR'S development time...

I wrote an article (photo-story) for Super Stock magazine about how that 383 Hemi was built. It was in the June 1980 issue, beginning on page 57. If you have any interest in this, and can't locate a copy, drop me an email at Billdedman@Hotmail.com and I'll send you a photocopy of that article.

Sorry this is so late in getting posted; this turbocharged slant six I'm trying to build has me distracted... LOL!

bill dedman 11-12-2011 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshow2966 (Post 175122)
I think Landy was involved in the 383 Hemi deal too. A guy on Moparts posted pictures of one a while back, when another one turned up on E-bay.

Charlie built ten of thos low-deck Hemi blocks for Moparites...

John Hagen got one, Landy got one (at least one), Butch Leal got one for his strret-driven Arrow (!) and one went to a Canadian Comp racer with a A dragster, Wally Dyck, who set the A/D record with it... maybe more than once.

I don't think I ever knew who got the rest...


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