Hood Question ????
 

I see pic of cars in SS running fiberglass hoods,but from my understanding of the rule book you have to use a "factory hood" Does this mean factory appering ( fiberglass that bolts to hinges ) ????? This is the last piece of the puzzle before we start testing for next year.

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Good question.

There is a picture of a rambler M/SA with a 290ci engine at the Columbus race with a factory hood scoop that only came on the 390ci version.

If that's legal why can't I run a max wedge scoop from a '64 plymouth 383ci car? Or any '64 plymouth other than the Aluminum scoop cars?

JimR

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In the real SS/ classes factory hood means just about what it says. If a car came with a nhra accepted fiberglass hood you can run it (and there are some aftermaket hoods that get thru). But you can't replace a steel hood with a fiberglass one unless nhra accepts it. This pertains to the SS/ classes.

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Regarding SS classes, if the car came with a steel hood, you must run a steel hood. You can only run a scoop if the car came with a scoop (or shaker, etc.) in the "traditional" Superstock classes). In the GT classes you can run a scoop.
If the car came with a fiberglass part and it is recognized by NHRA, you can keep it that way and it appears you can get away with a carbon-fiber replica. I would confirm with other racers in your class on that.
If your car came with an aluminum part or fiberglass part, you can run a heavier steel version. This is common with aluminum front end mopars for example as the parts are super-pricey and extremely difficult to find. The idea here is you can go heavier, not lighter.

A 290 Rambler in M/SA with a '69 Hurst SC/Rambler (390 4-speed only) would not be legal in NHRA Stock. Maybe it was a IHRA class? I'm not familiar with all of their Stock classes. There probably isn't a better hood scoop out there than that unique snorkel hood scoop. It probably captures as much air as necessary without the aerodynamic problems of something like a '68 Hemi A-body scoop. That's layman opinion not wind-tunnel opinion.

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I'm talking about traditional (not modified) SS classes with OEM scoops. If you have a '68 Hemi 'Cuda you get a scoop for SS/AH. If you want to take that same body with scoop and put a 383 in it and run it as a GT car you may. Does that answer your question?
Jeff

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Where would you find this "list" of acceptted hoods. In my case I have a 71 Duster and I know some left the factory with a matte black fibergalss hood. If thats the case I'll just add hood hinges to my fiberglass hood and I'm ready to go.

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'71 Dusters came with a steel hood. If you had a 340 Duster it had a pair of fiberglass scoops bolted to the steel hood.
The only post 1970 A-body with a light-weight package is the "Dart-Lite" & "Feather Dusters" as I recall in 1974 with aluminum hoods and other light-weight components. It was a fuel mileage package with slant 6's and overdrive aluminum case manuals trans.

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Hey Jeff. My hood scoop is not a hood scoop it's a front mounted parachute. Works similar to lifting at 1000 ft mark

LOL

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The lightweight package for both Plymouth and Dodge was 1976 only; the last year for the body style.

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Jeff,

If you look at the pictures from the NHRA Columbus race you will see an M/SA 290ci Rambler running the SCrambler hood scoop...how did he get away with that?

JimR

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Yeah if you took that off, Tim would be in trouble, lol.

Isn't there a "list" that for instance allows the Challenger T/A 6 pack hood to be used on non T/A cars? Or was that just one that slipped through the proberbial cracks?

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Sean,

The story from Mom Mopar was that they ran out of "shakers" on the assembly line and substituted the T/A hoods instead. Supposedly a letter was sent to the NHRA stating such. The funny part is that Plymouth didn't seem to run out of "shakers".

Tree

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I would have to leave a lot sooner.

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Lol!

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Then that would be called "cheating" and NHRA or other racers in M/SA will eventually address the issue. There is no grey area in the rulebook regarding such issues. Don't forget, NHRA has a clause in the rule book that says something like "past precedence does not constitute acceptance". Or something like that. That means somebody has a 290 Rambler with the wrong hood and it will catch up to him.

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The hood scoop on Joe Cochran's M/SA Rambler is not open. It is just bolted to the hood for appearance sake only. Travis said it would be ok. Bob Michael.

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Well now that we know "the rest of the story", my apologies to Joe. I would suppose a decorative part is not cheating. If NHRA says OK then I guess it's OK. Kinda weird but it's their rules. That space beneath the scoop would be a great place to have a rust issue....:rolleyes:

Buy the way, how well does that 290 run against his competition? I think the 290 is a great engine at 210 HP in both Stock and Super Stock. Garrett Ghezzi runs one in SS/MA and Roger Fain runs one in IHRA in SS/M. I would guess Joe is first with one in Stock. Good luck to him.

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Hey Jeff, Joe runs in the 12.7 to 12.8 range with his Rambler.. I don't think he has a lot of trick parts employed. By the way, I read your posts and am in deep respect for your machining prowess and research! Joe would do well to buddy up with you.

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Thanks for the compliment. I'd love to help if it's needed. Have hime contact me at my email address:
JeffLeeAzRealty@Qwest.net

Gotta make those AMC's front runners!

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Thanks, Jeff. I'll give him your e-mail address. He also has a Nostalgia SS/A AMX that runs in the high 9's, but he's an older guy like me and is'nt too computer savvy, but his wife can run the thing.Thanks again for your concern. p.s.. I bey you like the Car Craft project! Bob M.

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All the scoops on the Dusters were non functional just bolted to the hood with NO openings and they were not fiberglass, The 72 Demon and 73 Dart Sport had a great scoop but it wasn't sealed to the carb. I saw a Div 1 Duster running a totally bogus fiberglass scoop a few years back at Bristol. That car now doesn't have it anymore.

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Thanks for clearing that up.But here's another case of the rule book turning gray again.In the book it says
"hood openings and/or hood scoops other than original equipment prohibited".Further down it says"In front wheel drive vehicles non functional hood scoops that were available through the manufacturer are permitted".
The scoop was not available on any American other than the 1969 SC/Rambler.Period.
If the owner wants the scoop up there causing drag to the car then I guess as long as tech says ok then so be it.
Don't shoot the mesenger I just presented the supposed rule we're supposed to adhere to.

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I agree with Ed and can't understand why it was allowed. But as I said, somebody agreed to it. I can't imagine that ruling will stick.

Rod, if not fiberglass, what are those scoops made of? It's some sort of composite. I was talking about the scoops themselves NOT the hood they are bolted on to.
Jeff