Anyone here race an inline six?
 

Anyone here race with an inline six in Stock? What and where are you running?

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I'm guilty - '72 Maverick, 200"/C4....V/SA. Has been exclusively an IHRA deal but I hear the darkside calling!!

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Use the force Dave, follow your true feelings. Let your evil flow freely. :eek::D

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We have one...230 chevy in a 69 nova. Div.3 what ya want 2 know? heres a pic http://classracer.com/classforum/alb...&pictureid=802

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Well, I'm looking at combos, and wanted to do something unique. I thought an inline six would be cool, and wanted to see what was out there. I was thinking possibly a Mopar or older (60's) AMC, and I have a Fairmont, but who knows?

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The ford is not the way to go! AMC maybe...the Mopar just got Hp reduced a couple years ago? If ya have any questions on a chevy let me know.

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If I was starting from scratch, with an I6 as my goal power source, it would be an AMC. Chev as a second choice.

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Thanks for all the info and help so far guys, out of all the racing I have done this may be the friendliest forum I've been on.

With all the great insight I've gotten, I'm down to a slant-six Mopar (Aspen Wagon?) or an AMC then, maybe 60's Rambler?

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The AMC 6 is a good choice for a strong bottom end, but choose carefully,carburation is limited to a 1 bbl on most years,with only a few with 2bbl. .....Same for cam lift .....The '77 is the best choice,and has been run sucessfully by several racers,most notably, the infamous Ed F. .....As far as racing a 6 goes, any of them is a challange, ask Billy Nees, by far ,in my opinion,one of the more sucessful 6 cyl Stock racers.....Tom

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If you have a Fairmont with a 200 then play with it. It's not that bad a combo at 115 hp and it's a 10 cent build except for trans and converter.

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Hmmm, the car is REALLY clean and low mileage. I was down to it or Ed suggested a Rambler American, which I also have one of. Guess I have some thinking to do. Thanks so much everyone.

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Oh yeah, I don't have a rulebook at hand yet, could anyone maybe tell me what class the Fairmont would fall into? It's a coupe.

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I don't see a Fairmont that's any good.
Here's your car : 79 Aspen 2 dr cpe, 225 2bbl @ 140 hp ...V/SA.
Easy to build low gearset 904, using the later OD parts

Stay in the 6 cyl class...V

Case closed.

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In another post, you indicated that the Fairmont was an '80. The 200 in that year is 85hp, factored to 140. It's a natural "R" car and I think it would be tough to get that combo to be competetive. You could run at 2690 min. in "R" and would need to make around 180 flywheel hp to run the index(14.35). I don't know if the '80 carb is larger than my '72; the head is considered to be a little better. It has larger intake valves and larger chambers but the pistons are also flat top compared to the earlier dish. Can't tell you much about the runners - yet. Cam lift is the same. My Maverick is almost as light and is a natural "V" package. A second and a half is a bunch between "R" and "V".

My uneducated evaluation.

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WOW, this has been an eye opener! Just when I think the Mopar is a goner, here's a good case for it, though I don't have one at the ready, except access to a 78 wagon. When I think more about the Ford, hmm, not so good. The Rambler is still an open case though...

How long did it take you guys to figure out what to build, and why did you build the combos you did, if I may ask? I'm looking for all the insight I can before picking up a wrench...

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I suspect that many of us arrived upon the scene without a lot of research. A "good buy" presented itself and it followed us home. Some have been racing in the category long enough to have learned what combination fits their preferences. Everyone has different priorities and concepts of the ideal Stock Eliminator "blueprint". I purchased a car with a 6cyl drivetrain which had already been campaigned as a stocker. My intent was to convert it to a Crate Motor car as finances allowed. I decided, however, that I could learn the science of the sport with the current set-up and have some fun being different.

The best piece of advice I can offer would be to make sure that you stay within a self imposed budget and never lose sight of the goals you have set......where's my checkbook??

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My main goal was to get a car going and see what it could do. I have always been fascinated with what you guys can do with such tight parameters to work in. I have no problem with a slower car, my first drag car was my street car, running 15.45's, and I won a few times with it. I think slower cars can be much more dangerous lol. I love the parity and challenges of this class more than worrying about speed, which is why stubborn me wants to build rather than buy. I only have one track with a divisional race near me, (only 3 tracks total in Montana), but I have a track here that runs 8 times a year so I have a place to try out things. Worst case scenario is I have some good knowledge and stories to share and a potentially good bracket car! I know it'll take alot of time and money, but I've wanted to do this for a few years now. I never did, mainly because I didn't know a place like this existed where I could get some good advice beforehand.

A silly part of me would love to have a national record, even if for a day. Wonder what fits in W/SA?

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In NHRA, 4cyl cars exclusively.

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One point then I'll go away.Why build a 6 cylinder,low compression,no carb,looking at cars coming at you at up to 40-50 mph.In other words slow inconsistant combos when he has a car already to put a small v-8 with a good carb and a decent hp factor?If I knew then what I know now I would have that v-8 car now.

Ed F.

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Amen.

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I think that little Rambler is gonna win out isn't it? You do have a good point, as much as I want to build something unique, I don't want to waste a good effort on something that won't be that much fun. I never thought a slow car would be that inconsistent. Glad I am finding this stuff out now!

Don't go away Ed, you're helping a ton!

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I was kidding about W/SA. Thanks for all the info, I think I know what to build now. It's still cool to see the different combinations and how they come about.

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I have to agree with Mark about the Aspen but don't close the case yet. Mark, he has a clean body to start with. Where are you going to find a decent Aspen? Maybe in your backyard but not in mine. The 200 motor isn't showing the correct factor in the guide. We were looking for a place to play with a Mustang some time ago and got that factor changed to 115 based on a paper mistake. The man to talk to is Dave Ley. At 115 it is a V car and again he has one.

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Iraceitall, hang around this board long enough and you'll realize that if you ask 100 S/SS racers a question you'll get 100 different answers. You can pick the best combo, you can pick a combo that you have or you can pick a car for it's emotional attachment. What I'm getting at is to pick a combo that you have the means to finish and have fun with it. As you learn the "ropes" you can make your own decisions.

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Up a little early,aren't you old man?

Ed

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Billy, do they ever change the on-line documentation once an error is identified?

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Hi Dave, I haven't looked but when I last spoke to Dave Ley about it I was assured that during the next update (the last AHFS changes) it would be taken care of. We aren't going to do anything with the car so I haven't kept up with it.

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Dave yes they do @ one time the 307 chevy had a .002 deck hight for all year but 71 in witch it had a .020 deck hight? it's now .002 like all the rest. mine & Billys car also had the wrong intake for years that's now fixed too. oh & everytime a new piston is approved for a 283 I have to email & get it approved for the 230 also as they use the same piston!

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Iraceitall have a bunch of 225 six stuff in the garage and have no need for it PM me if you like

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just MY 2 cents and it ain't prolly worth that.
i'm concidering runnig a 67 440 american (2dr ht) with the 155 horse (2bbl carb) 232/3speed.
downside is gonna be the 3 speed i think.
can't get a straight answer if you can run a 4 speed or not....
an automatic just ain't gonna happen...


btw, anybody know of any headers for this combo?

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I have been working on a 69 american for several years 232 2bbl. I wrote a letter h.p is now 145 on this combo dont know if this would effect your 67 combo?????

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Wow, Ramblers coming out of the woodwork! Thanks for all the info and help everyone, it gives me alot to think about. Even though I think I know what I want to run, I still can't decide!

Part of me knows better, but darnit I still want to mess with a six!

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FYI, Running a Rambler, A Body 8.75 rear end is a bolt in deal. Same width as stock rear end and also Chrysler trans make this a better combo. I wish I was futher along with mine, short block is together and car is basically complete. D-stock automatic Duster's eat lot's of money. If I can be of any help just let me know. 6 cylinders RULE!!!!!:o!!!!!!!!

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awww, if it makes ya feel better, i've got a 69 2 dr post that's getting a mustang II front end and a sbc/4speed/9".
well, the front end is in it anyway...
i'd rather put an amc in it but i can blow up a few 350's....
i DO have a line on a couple of 343's though.


i'm with you, i want to build a six but this trans thing is getting to be an issue....
i'm NOT gonna run an automatic!
the car'll be slow enough and i'll fall asleep by 1/2 track if i run an auto;)

if we've got any tech guys on here that can straighten me out on the six cyl/4 speed thing, i'd sure appreciate it.
btw, if i DO have to use a 3 speed, anybody have any suggestions?

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A body is a duster/demon correct?

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early darts, valiants and cudas are all "A" bodies

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Good tip to know, the rear was gonna be a crutch on the Rambler.

Anyone know where to find floorpans for a Rambler by the way? I think mine might be bad or close to it...I pulled it out of the snowpile to give it a lookover this afternoon, the body is real good but the floors feel soft...didn't have time to pull the mat up, and it's supposed to storm here again for a few days...

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'69 rambler 2 door post here also, its currently a garage ornament...

do a google search & you'll be amazed @ the amc stuff out there... i think Galvins rambler parts has floorpans for the americans... however i've seen a javelin with the interior out of it while it was being restored & its floorpans look awfully close to the same as the americans & would almost bet money they are the same .. doubt amc spent the extra money to make different floorpans for cars that have the same wheelbase & finding javelin floorpans might be easier

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Rambler Rouge might have had 6 and 4speed check AMC fourm web site those guys know alot!! Look for 4 door and wagons for parts might find floors there. There is always lots of Rambler parts for sale on the fourm hope this helps.
My 8.75 came out of 68 dart good luck!!!!!!!!!!

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The stick combo would be limited to a 3 speed only.

Ed