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HandOverFist 11-30-2013 01:42 AM

'67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
A friend and I picked this car up a while back and we are working on it this winter with many upgrades in store. Car came to us with a Powerglide and numerous small problems...we are whittling them down one at a time.

As of this evening these are the completed items:

Complete re-wire of the ignition system -
New MSD distributor and coil -
Altered bracketry for the Moroso water pump -
New 5.14 Richmond gear -
Caltrac's for the rear with Caltrac split leaf springs -
New Moroso front springs -
New shocks on all corners -
Aerospace disc brakes front and rear and light weight master cylinder -
Improved gauge package -
New Champion wheels all around - (I splurged a bit here:p)

Just about all problem areas have been addressed save one...Arnett is building us a Metric 200 atm and a ATI convertor will be added as well when it's ready. Come spring we will find out how good a motor we have in the car...can't think of anything else that would hold us back. The car is already very close to the class minimum weight for a 286/350 in E/SA.

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cad 11-30-2013 09:06 AM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
Looking good.
Where did you purchase the wheels from?
What size are the rears and backspace?

Clark

HandOverFist 11-30-2013 11:39 AM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
I ordered the wheels from Champion... http://www.cwibeadlock.com/NBL%20Speed%20Series.htm

Rears are 15x10 w/5.0 backspace. Someone in the past had welded the spring perches in the wrong positions shifting everything toward the driver's side...I will have to run a 1/4" wheel spacer behind the passenger side wheel to clear the lower shock mount. We will run it this way this season and probably replace the housing next fall.

Both my partner and I were so impressed with the wheels he plans on putting a set on his '66 Nova. What I really like is how Champion offers it's wheels in 1/4" increments for backspacing.

black88coupe 11-30-2013 03:52 PM

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LOVE this car!!!!

HR9121 11-30-2013 04:28 PM

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Nice work. Love the new wheels they look awesome.

Glenn Hayes 11-30-2013 04:36 PM

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Nice looking car, job well done!

How quick was the car when you bought it?

HandOverFist 11-30-2013 05:07 PM

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Thanks guys - If we can make it run decently this spring I will treat it to a new paint job/interior come fall. The car was only able to muster a 7.39 with F weight when we got it...we will see what it can do with the new parts come spring.

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Marty Knox 11-30-2013 11:37 PM

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Looks Really Good! Love seeing another WHITE race car!

HandOverFist 12-12-2013 02:42 AM

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Standby for a complete interior change. The next pictures posted will show a Black/Gold interior with re-located gauges. We are also going to go ahead and swap the current 12-bolt housing for a Mosier housing to get everything centered as it should be.

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HandOverFist 12-13-2013 11:52 PM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
Got the Gold paint in this afternoon...I'll give it till Sunday to dry and begin putting everything back together. Not shown is a new Gold headliner lying on top of the roof.

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Reflecting on it...ordered some front door armrests last night. Weary of digging my nails in the window channel everytime I need to close the door...looks like there is plenty of room with the side bars.

Alan Nyhus 12-15-2013 07:49 AM

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Looks nice, Rich. The gold interiors in early Camaros and Chevelles look classy. I like the gold Moroso tach bracket....been looking everywhere trying to find one for my Nova stocker. -Al

HandOverFist 12-15-2013 10:27 AM

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You can have that bracket Al for the price of shipping if you want it.

chris ok 12-15-2013 01:01 PM

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great looking car. We have one in a body shop. going to be black. just a streeter 67. I like the pictures to reference when it comes home, thanks. Chris

Alan Nyhus 12-15-2013 05:42 PM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
Rich, check your p.m.'s. Thanks! -Al

HandOverFist 12-16-2013 12:36 AM

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Got it Al..sent you one back.

Got the Mosier housing in the car today...forgot and left the camera at home so no pic's tonight. Everything is now perfectly centered, the 5" backspace wheels worked great with no interference and the back of the car is sitting pretty. If the headliner guy doesnt show this week I suppose we will have one more project to tackle ourselves.

HandOverFist 12-18-2013 11:40 PM

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Headliner went in this evening...looks great!

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New Mosier housing was a sorely needed addition.

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Header tethers installed...thanks Jok @ http://www.collector-cable.com/

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I'll get some shots when I finish the seats/door panels/dash.

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Alan Nyhus 12-19-2013 09:10 AM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
Looks great!

Nice looking shop.....the tongue and groove ceilings are 'way slick. -Al

HandOverFist 12-21-2013 11:11 PM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
Began putting the dash/interior back together today...starting to look like a car again.

Made a minor change to the shock mounting point and replaced the well worn u-bolts.

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How do you like the new gauge placement? No more big honkin tach in the windshield.

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My camera mysteriously deleted a shot of the door panel...anyway, door armrests are installed. Of course I still have some tidying to do with wiring before the seats go back in. Matter of fact I may hold off on the seats until we get the new transmission installed in case I have to do some shifter work.

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brent flynn 12-22-2013 12:12 AM

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Lookin good! Makes me want to go out and work on my Bird! :)

HandOverFist 12-29-2013 12:29 AM

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I'll be damned...everything actually works. I was too tired to mess with the seats this evening...will put them back in New Years day.

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ron mattson 01-01-2014 03:20 AM

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Looks really good, built correctly and will
Reward you with good performance!

HandOverFist 01-03-2014 09:14 PM

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Finally off the rack and out in the sunshine. All we need now is the new transmission/convertor.

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Glenn Hayes 01-04-2014 12:15 AM

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Sweeeeeeeeeeet ! Are you going to make us a video so we can hear it run? Maybe a burnout and wheelie too!

HandOverFist 01-04-2014 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Hayes (Post 415016)
Sweeeeeeeeeeet ! Are you going to make us a video so we can hear it run? Maybe a burnout and wheelie too!

Not much of a launch pad in front of the shop haha! I will have the GoPro inside the car when we take it to Bowling Green this spring tho. :p

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Alan Nyhus 01-04-2014 08:40 AM

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Rich, the car looks great! -Al

FrankChastain 01-04-2014 09:00 AM

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There is just something about white race cars.......Great job, very detailed and it will pay off in the long run....FrankChastain

OLD INJUN 01-07-2014 08:50 PM

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There is just something about white race cars.......Great job, very detailed and it will pay off in the long run....FrankChastain

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sst7250 01-16-2014 03:21 AM

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Looks very nice.

brent flynn 01-17-2014 07:24 PM

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That thing is lookin slick!

HandOverFist 01-19-2014 09:57 PM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
Nothing better to do this evening so I put the '67 Quad together...we will see how race ready it is. :p

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brent flynn 01-19-2014 10:14 PM

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I love workin' on these carbs, and learning what makes them tick. I set mine up to about 3/4:1 on the secondaries...im running a '68 Buick carb, with '70 main body... picked up quite a bit, with those mods...i went with a Chevy throttle shaft, mainly for ease of throttle hookup. Why am i telling you this? hehe:) It aint pretty, but its a mean footbrake carb...

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HandOverFist 01-19-2014 10:30 PM

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Looking good Brent! I'll have to wait around eight weeks to find out how mine acts. Thought it would be unique running a 1967 model on the car.

brent flynn 01-19-2014 10:54 PM

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Thanks! I thought it cool to run a '68(even if it was a Buick) carb , but found out that it couldnt feed my 462, ran out of fuel at the top of each gear. So , i figured it wouldnt feed my 400 either, since i will be turning a few more rpms. I used the 462 as my test dummy, and learned quite a bit from that. Im very anxious to get the 400 running. Gettin closer everyday. Time and $...hehe
WHat carb is on the car, now?

HandOverFist 01-19-2014 11:01 PM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
It's a later model that came with the car...appears to be a quality piece. I know it has 68 primary jets in it...just put 67's in the '67 hehe.

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brent flynn 01-19-2014 11:05 PM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
looks like a good one...is that a '207' carb? I only running '65s in my current carb, how you guys get away with 68's? Im not running metering rods in front...

HandOverFist 01-19-2014 11:09 PM

Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo
 
Carb isnt in front of me Brent and I can't recall the number. I know someone commented before it was jetted like a SuperStocker. No primary needles in these either. I put CE secondary rods in the '67 to begin with. The car was originally running with 40 degrees timing...I have since backed it down to 36 degrees with the new distributor.

brent flynn 01-19-2014 11:13 PM

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I have always had the best luck with DA .044 tip secondaries on K hanger... anytime that ive tried to richen it up a tad, i see loss in 60ft( about .01 or so) and about .02+ in the 1/4 mile... with any engine the carb has been on. I went from 11.04/1.48/120 to 10.81/1.440/122.33 with just those mods i mentioned earlier... in the same basic conditions...and being a Pontiac, big cube, i run timing locked at 33-34* ... the 400 may take a few more degrees, not sure yet....

HandOverFist 01-19-2014 11:31 PM

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Looks like we both will be experimenting a bit this year. :D

brent flynn 01-20-2014 07:14 AM

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Right on!

brent flynn 02-11-2014 08:12 PM

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Im gonna have to step up my build page, a tad!;)


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