Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Alan.
On the Ted Spehar Dart, Since he got the #1 car, I would garner to bet that it came right off the line to his Performance Shop/Gas Station on
Woodward Avenue. Probably at factory cost, not M.S.R.P.
Send the engine over to N & S Machine Shop, for the works.

On the Jon Raspach car. (Probably converted to 273/235HP)
Yes, Carter AFB 4-barrel + L/SA (automatic) = 1972
Just for D-Dart followers.
NHRA D-Dart Year Classifications:
1966 = D/S
1967 = C/S
1968 = F/S
1969 = G/S
1970 = G/S
1971 = G/S
1972 = H/S
Paul...

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

More info from 1966.
The D-Dart was shipped with the Hurst-shifter (in the white Hurst box in the trunk, w/white ball shift knob). The shifter was to be installed by the dealer, or car purchaser. Of course, many 20-year old Junior Mechanics
probably were given that job. One wonders, that when they opened the trunk, and saw a nice Hurst-shift unit, if it didn't fit nicely under their arm
and find its way out to there performance car, parked in the employee's
parking area???..And left the Dart with that beautiful Inland unit.
More mystery?
PC

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Not sure if anyone is still following this thread. But I think I've got some final pieces for the D-Dart.
The car was shipped with the "Inland" shifter. Because it had a positive lock-out reverse mechanism. Safety issue. The "Hurst" shifter was supposed to placed in the trunk, and installed by the dealer. I am still searching for the "Hurst" part #. The shifter was boxed in a white "Hurst" box with linkage.
Not sure about the Dick Landy prep on the car. He spent 1966 out campaigning his 66' Funny Car Dart all over the country.
Finally, the original 273/235HP Commando intake manifolds had bore holes of 1 7/16" primary and 1 9/16" secondary, for the Carter #4119
500 CFM carburetor.
The 273/275HP D-Dart manifold had the center shut-out area removed,
to allow for free-breathing (hence; modified intake manifold). A carb-adapter plate was required, because the carb-flange on the Holley
700 CFM carburetor did not line up with the stock intake, and added clearance was required for the butterfly linkage. The modified intake still had the stock cast iron intake part #. The manifolds were modified at the
factory (custom prepped), before installation.
If you went to your local Dodge dealer and ordered a D-Dart conversion kit. You didn't get a modified intake, what you got was a .938 thick
carb-spacer/adapter-flange, with 1 11/16" primary and intake openings for the Holley carb.
Sounds like only (50) 4-barrel cast iron manifolds were custom prepped
by the factory. You could not order one over the parts counter.
Paul
A simple bolt-on unit.

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Paul,
I never heard of the Hurst shifter being in the trunk. Just the headers and I believe a specially built y-pipe. I'll check with the original owner of my first car and another D/Dart owner that I know.

As far as the intake goes. It was the one used on the w/C.A.P engines. The part number is 2536771. It has 4 --- 1 11/16" holes in it that match the holes in the 1/2" thick aluminum spacer/adapter. The center was not machined out. I'll have to look and see if I have a picture of my engine when I was taking it apart.

The heads on the D/Dart, P/N 2658920, were also from the w/C.A.P. engine option. These had 1.87" intake and 1.50" exhaust valves. The stock heads had 1.78 and 1.50 valves.

Where you able to scan the Performance Review (?) article for me? D/Dart vs. Mustang.

Thanks for the info on the D/Darts. I've been following the other LO23 thread that you've been participating in. Very informative --- to say the least.

Alan

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Alan,

What was the " w/C.A.P. engine option."????

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

It stands for "with clean air package". I think it was for California.

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Alan,
Good hunting there. Headers in trunk, just like the 67 R/O Plymouth and
67 W/O Dodge race packages. Always had a question about those
Doug Headers with the smaller collector sizes. NHRA limited collector sizes, they could not exceed the size of the largest diameter of the exhaust system (I think 2 3/4" was the opening in that large "Y" pipe) or a tad smaller. For stock classes, Super Stock could have openings up to
3 1/2".
The cast iron intakes with the 1 11/16" openings for primary and secondary were found on marine applications, as they all pretty much utilized Holley carburetors. Dig up Chrysler Marine info, you'll find a bunch of stuff. They were really leaps and bounds ahead of the small-block drag race guys at Chrysler. In 68', many of the 318 marine engines had the larger-bore cast iron intakes on the engines, and better camshafts, thanks to Camcraft, out of Easton, Maryland.
Paul, (Bigger valve size, that one I have got to look into. As for the
shifter, I think it was a 1966 safety issue. Requiring a positive lock-out on the reverse gear and/or indicator on all cars, Protecting the factory from liability claims.)

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Alan,
The D-Dart mysteries makes your head spin.
Kind of like a 16 year-old virgin on a carousel, at a prison rodeo.
The D-Dart carb spacer part #2863052 (.938 thickness).
The intake (free-flowing/modified intake) may have been an earlier version, similar to, Vanke's intake modifications on the 67' R/O and W/O Hemi Super/Stock manifolds.
One things for sure, all small-block 273 Mopar guys were cutting out the center shut-out areas on the intakes, for increased air-flow at top-end, back then. As well as putting on a 15/16"-thick heat-risers between the carb. and intake, to prevent vapor lock.
Paul (I'm not sure, but the Hurst # may start with a DP-.... ???

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Wonderful research, thanks for the in-depth info, keep it coming!

Thanks,

JimR

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 

Paul,
You come up with some great quote.........................Lov'em

The spacer that came on the D/Darts was a 1/2" aluminum plate. It was an in-house, crudely machined part. Not sure what the over-the-counter part (2863052 - carb flange) dimensions are. But, the price was $18.95.

I popped open the throttle plates on "The Pollitician" a little while ago. It has the 4 holes in the intake. I'm sure if it ment picking up a few ponies, Ted Spehar or Al Adam would have cut out the center.

Sent out a couple of emails looking for info on the Hurst shifter. In the SS&DI article on "The Pollitician", there's a shot of the interior with a thin, round handled Hurst shifter. It might be the one that your talking about. It's also seen on the D/Dart campaigned by Coronet Dodge.
Alan