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Byron Worner 12-06-2016 08:47 PM

Re: National event chaos?
 
How about having the "New" Pro Stock and Pro Mod at points races?

cmracing 12-06-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ken robinson (Post 521577)
I agree with Billy we should have a vote , with the money spend on membership fee's and all the other costs , its like owning stock in a company / nhra with no say . SSGT mustang has a very good point ....Let the bracket cars 8.50 /10./& 11.5 , come be the filler for $330 and 3days off out of the work week....O wait they let them in on sat am for less $$$

Not sure if any of the National Events have had OPEN Index Racing. Several tracks have invited a few cars to participate, for free, for a Wally and $$$. I may jump in my 11.50 car to try that out also........

I do like showing up on Saturday for a $60 entry, payout based-on entries, I got $250 for R/U at Maples Groves Divisional this year. I'm fine with being filler.

No way in he!! am I paying $330 for a National Event. Won't pay $170 for a Divisional either. I can enter big $$$ Footbrake Races for less money and a shot at $10K.

You wanna know what's killing Stock/Super Stock, and Sportsman racing in general. You already know, NHRA greed!

Sam Murray 12-06-2016 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher (Post 521448)
Nero grab your fiddle...

Perfect Dan!

Cotten 12-07-2016 12:50 AM

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I think some of you may be misunderstanding the "no tech".

As Jody Lang stated earlier in this thread. I also received an email before the fall vegas race and the finals stating that I had the option to participate in a trial program where I was able to go directly to the credential trailer with my tech card.

It further stated that spot checks (I assumed for belt expiration etc) would be conducted during qualifying.

I don't believe the program is meant to eliminate tech but to speed the tech in process up. I assume and hope performance oriented tech will continue, at least at the current level.

I am not happy about the prospect of random pairing however, certainly not the no stacking., as that is a big part of my social life.

boostedf22c 12-07-2016 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cotten (Post 521713)
I think some of you may be misunderstanding the "no tech".

As Jody Lang stated earlier in this thread. I also received an email before the fall vegas race and the finals stating that I had the option to participate in a trial program where I was able to go directly to the credential trailer with my tech card.

It further stated that spot checks (I assumed for belt expiration etc) would be conducted during qualifying.

I don't believe the program is meant to eliminate tech but to speed the tech in process up. I assume and hope performance oriented tech will continue, at least at the current level.

I am not happy about the prospect of random pairing however, certainly not the no stacking., as that is a big part of my social life.

Thanks for the clarification of the "no tech" term.

Jim Wahl 12-07-2016 02:26 AM

Re: National event chaos?
 
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Originally Posted by Cotten (Post 521713)
I think some of you may be misunderstanding the "no tech".

As Jody Lang stated earlier in this thread. I also received an email before the fall vegas race and the finals stating that I had the option to participate in a trial program where I was able to go directly to the credential trailer with my tech card.

It further stated that spot checks (I assumed for belt expiration etc) would be conducted during qualifying.

I don't believe the program is meant to eliminate tech but to speed the tech in process up. I assume and hope performance oriented tech will continue, at least at the current level.

I am not happy about the prospect of random pairing however, certainly not the no stacking., as that is a big part of my social life.

I thought I read that S/SS were laddered from the first rd as always. The .90 cars are random run. Am I wrong? Jim

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theworm 12-07-2016 02:38 AM

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so what happens to the e t I system they have now ? its just like not going through tech other than still having to wait in long lines while other cars get teched in. with no stacking do we just drive in and self park?

Alan Roehrich 12-10-2016 11:44 PM

Re: National event chaos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotten (Post 521713)
I think some of you may be misunderstanding the "no tech".

As Jody Lang stated earlier in this thread. I also received an email before the fall vegas race and the finals stating that I had the option to participate in a trial program where I was able to go directly to the credential trailer with my tech card.

It further stated that spot checks (I assumed for belt expiration etc) would be conducted during qualifying.

I don't believe the program is meant to eliminate tech but to speed the tech in process up. I assume and hope performance oriented tech will continue, at least at the current level.

I am not happy about the prospect of random pairing however, certainly not the no stacking., as that is a big part of my social life.



You know, between a couple of days of work, 10 hours of driving, and 3 days at the PRI Show, where I saw a lot of my racing friends, no, not just friends, but my racing family, there's been a lot of time to think about this news, and discuss it with some of the family.

One of the first things that came up is the NHRA officials that take care of us, who are part of our family, too. The people who don't race, but come to the track, and make it possible for us to race, for the love of the sport, and their racing family, because they sure ain't doing it for the money.

So when NHRA starts cutting the budget for tech, and the people who park us, what happens to those NHRA people? Yeah, what about our friends?

And then, as mentioned above, there's the social part of racing, because we sure ain't doing this for the money. Yes, we're doing it to go fast, and to compete. But as a close friend said today, when we're not racing, we're hanging out, cooking together, eating together, working on our cars together, so, yeah, where we park is important. And our NHRA friends know this, the know us, and they do a good job of parking us close to our friends, because it means a lot.

They're going to push all of this on us, and tell us it's no big deal, and we should just take it and go on. But as one guy told me Friday, this is not something to take lightly, and it looks like a bad omen for our sport.

You know, when you think about it, when a car rolls through the gate with a driver and usually at least one other person, that's around $400. So with an 80 car quota, several sportsman classes are bringing in about $32,000 per class. And that's just getting through the gate. Never mind what gets spent inside the gate, or the membership and license fees.

Sportsman drag racing contributes a pretty fair amount to NHRA's bottom line.

And that does not even take into consideration what racers spend on cars, parts, and rigs. And a lot of the companies we buy from contribute a fair amount as well.

And yet, NHRA continues to short sheet sportsman racing and treat the racers like second class citizens.

I think my friend was right, this looks like a really bad omen for our sport.

fredjohnston 12-11-2016 09:54 AM

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So you and others were at PRI for several days. Did you or anyone else casually bring these items up at the for discussion with NHRA?

jmcarter 12-11-2016 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fredjohnston (Post 522047)
So you and others were at PRI for several days. Did you or anyone else casually bring these items up at the for discussion with NHRA?

Was under the impression that there was a SRAC meeting at PRI...would expect something semi-official to be forthcoming.

Having so many great conversations with NHRA tech people over the years it's hard to swallow that NHRA is headed this direction. The very NHRA people we regularly interface with represents the 'true' NHRA, not the corporate carpetbaggers who migrate through headquarters with visions of increasing their compensation packages.


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