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X2 Mike!! I'd sell my stuff and that would be the end of me at any NHRA events, or being a member. I'm a young guy that had nothing, no budget, no skill. But my dream was to race stock. My first race was the Federal Mogal race at Leabanon in 97. I made it to the semi final and lost. If I made it to the final I would have had Joe Demarzo heads up. I would have lost by 8 tenths. I accepted that, it was the rules. 8 years later after alot of hard work and some careful money spent, I became competitive . It was a great and rewarding ride. That is the game for the entire existance of this class, that's what I fell in love with. Not bitching because the rules didn't suit me, or people had more money than me.

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I'm with you brother - if I didn't want rules or heads-ups I could go to my local track every weekend and run bracket 2 or super pro or whatever they call it ...........I'll hang up my helmet first - its not what I've learned to do and enjoy - its OK for others but not me ! ! !

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I think some of us are saying "stock" is not entry level

If it were we would not do it - we have learned to much and like to much about

The proof is - NHRA can not do anything to make us quit

I have said it before

"drag racing is a desease - it is an addiction for which there is no cure except dying of old age"

I am doing what I want and I hope my son is - and I hope he can continue do it for a long time after I am gone in some form or another - it is not going to disappear

Ron

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I'm also with you guys on the heads up runs and rules to follow. Me being 37, I bracket raced S/P and PRO since I was 16. I always love the stock and superstock cars. Watching stock over the years and seeing a 9 inch tired car carry the wheels 100 feet, what is cooler than that! The last bracket race I was at had a about 150 dragsters and 2 door cars and about a 1000 cry babies lol no thanks just not for me. So I turned my camaro into a stocker and for the past 3 years I 've been running stock, and like said above I try and go to the events that have class just to run heads up. Knowing I'll get my *** kicked lol,but I try like hell, it just makes me work harder. Stock is cool and I hope it hangs around for awhile!
Like I always say when they call stock and superstock to the lanes its the best car show I 've ever been too!

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x4
No heads up ? This aint golf .Stock is entry level just go into Cars For Sale section.
Thats where I found my car. Did good first 4 races .Then at Atco I run into Tex Miller heads up..I think he past me in the wheelie.*** KICKED..Took my beating and been sceawing up heads up ever since.,,As always this post is driven by people who dont have a dog in the fight...

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And who would that be?
Ken Bugaj ? That's who first mentioned no heads up as a solution.
He doesn't race? His son doesn't race?
Who/what are you talking about?

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you dont too spend a fourtune to race stock you can get a slower stocker and still kick ***

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Enforce the written rules or rewrite the rules. I'd bet there'd be enough people that would come back or bring their kids into it if you got rid of the BS. Please don't tell me to work harder......sorry, I should stay off of the internet.

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Jim,
Is the Dog in the fight BS directed at me ?
I would hope not.

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It's more than just the price of the cars. There have been plenty of good cars out there for sale under 20 thous. My Brother tried to sell his last year for 15 and there were no takers. He put 3500 into it over the winter and the car is an easy second under in good air. It's a g car. The real cost is getting to and from the tracks and the price of an entrance. Entrance fees are up 4 times what they were when I started and payouts are not even double. Contingentcies have gone backwards. Indy class win last year. 50 dollars from vp that was it. Really !!! Our local Stock/Super Stock organization does a better job promoting sponcers. Just tires and racing gas can keep your walet empty. Lets face it to go to most National Event unless it's in your back yard it cost you an easy g note. Even with that cost we still get blocked from entering some of them without the right grade points. I would have loved to race E-Town. Not many on this board have been to as many NHRA races as I have in the last 25 years. But because I was only able to get a grade of 3 last year I'm blocked. I guess I'm just not a good customer. Ed is also right. Times have changed as far as the kids are concered. My son would rather screw around with his electronics than work on a car. And I don't really want him to get this disease. It takes way to much time and way to much money. But even with all the BS I still really love it. . Barry