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Frank, I was down at westons dropping my new block off for his cnc about a month ago, and the pile of blocks there is like a who's who of NHRA. Didn't really look at all the names as we were searching for his aluminum Hemi caps and spacers. Also had to marvel at his aluminum mega inch billet block, before and after. A BIG chunk of aluminum to start.
I'm sure if he had any Nascar blocks there that they would be covered as Charlie is very secretive about customers combinations. I know Larry Perkins told me that Warren Johnson calls him the "MichaelAngelo of cast Iron", LOL! If he does WJ's blocks, that is saying something right there! And Rich, he had a very small shop in Edison before he moved to Piscataway. Wall to wall machines and no space to even walk, but neat and organized and not a chip on the floor!!, had to be 25 years ago. And the last time I was in Hoffmans shop, Terry who has been at Jesel's fab shop forever, was still working for him. Time Flies... This thread brings back some good memories of people and class racing.... |
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Mr....SS/DAHemi.....
Since there are really not many '70 Hemi Cudas out there racing and you are from NJ....... Do you know Matt S. from Greenbrook...... He was telling me about someone who had a Hemi Cuda and I can't quite recall who it was..... a neigbor or a relative? We both work for the same company.... |
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Yeah Rich, I went to school with Matts wife. My wife and Kim were like sisters in high school and we all hung out back then. Your ears must have been ringing as we talked at Atco divisional, and your name came up. I love your passion for class racing and your posts.
Would love to meet you if you're going to be at E'town divisional or Reading Natl. or the dutch. I love to look back at class racing as it was, but there's no going back, so I'm going to enjoy it while its still here, LOL!! Just look for the red trailer with the Hemi Cuda and hood up. I enjoy working on the car and am constantly picking at it. I have no problem with shoe polish, but thats not why I'm here... |
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AHSO....Said... HopSing.....My hunch was correct.....
I do actually like Stock and Super Stock racing very much, always have and always will, and have done both but race what I can afford.....The old days were a heck of a lot different for sure. Of course I was also a lot younger and more driven to compete no matter what..... Time and money were always hard to find to make the effort needed to do well.... I occasionally race S/C and did plan on doing the E-Town race this coming week but that looks pretty iffy now.....for a couple reasons.... I will very likely run the Dutch.....Love that race if the weather is good... I am no Mpoar guy but I always liked the '70 Hemi Cudas body style.....Very rare to see one these days....street or track. If I am at one of those two races I'll look for you.......I ride a bike and am all over the place at a race.....Keeps me from getting bored and I get some excercise.... |
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Here is a bit of T/K flap some mite not remember. When Tommy left and went to Garfield Bernie Agaman bought in and when that did not pan out Claude bought in. He rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way and T/K went into a slump. If it had not been for Jerry Stinner the place would have been in deep trouble. Ralph seemed to be on over load when ever we spoke. I think this is the time that his illness showed up also. Jerry took on a heavy work load working two jobs and he was the glue that held T/K together.
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Tom,,,,,,
Was this photo at ATCO before Indy 1970......or at the September 1970 ATCO NED1 Points meet. http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...cars69/agn.jpg |
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1971 Photo (SS/EA Record 11.33)
The former Karl Gould/Tim Richards 1970 Hemi Superbird,,,, Purchased by Al and Bobby Carpinet (out of Wyoming, Pennsylvania) This car defeated Ray Allen's 1970 LS-6 Chevelle. http://www.numidiadragway.com/images...SUPER_BIRD.jpg |
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I had one of Bill's tricked up intakes. He, or someone in his shop, even etched a diagram of a Crow on it. You guys did great work there. |
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pthomasely,
Tom, Who built the engine for the Superbird,,,,was it Bash Engine or Chrysler Skunkworks,,,,,, When the Superbird was sold,,,,,,to Totten & Jennings,,,,,,the 'special engine' was not included,,,,,,,as stated by Jack........:confused: pc |
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I wonder what happen to that special engine? |
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I recall Dave Wren getting one of these Hemi convertibles as well. It was referred to as the "Get Ray Allen" car at the time. I think it was red,. with a white top. I may be wrong. Dave is still around. Not sure how it fared racing against Ray though. JimmieC. |
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Does anyone in the NJ area know how to get in touch with Frank Brenniser? He had purchased my '69 Camaro SS/EA, and later my SS/GTA Monte Carlo. He owned and ran a junk yard at the time. Any help would be appreciated.
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Didn't he rename the Monte to the:The Dismantler"?? Was that the same car that became: Smooth Operator (Gricco)? Speaking of S/S Monte Carlos' I spotted Hoffman's old S/S Monte (areo rear window) at a Sunoco station in Avenel. N.J. this past week end. It looked like a fine bred race horse that has been put out to pasture. JimmieC |
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bad banana check your pm.
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Your intake was done by Bill.....that was his work and he always signed it with his little Crow picture. Those intakes were good and untill the Darts came along there was not many intakes that would be better. Bill also did some Holley intakes and they were basically copies of what we saw from Lee Shepard. Runner extensions in the plenum.....Made big low end torque. Shepards work was just about the best you could get and if he did it....well it was worth copying.... Bill spent hours and hours on intakes and really hated doing them because of all the time. He did a lot of welding and grinding and then had to polish them. No way you could make any money doing those things. I have to laugh when I think of the time he overheated his old cheezy welder and it went up in a cloud of smoke......He went and bought a big old clunker but it could tig weld all day and not overheat...... A Victor Jr for a small block was worth probably .15 on my old SS/JA 350/255 over an untouched intake. I think you had a Chevy II for a while with that engine in the same class.... I do also remember Brenniser......He had a big Monte Carlo and came to our shop a few times.......I think he broke too much stuff and quit...... Those early days of welded and ported SS heads was no bargain.....We never did any welding on cast iron heads....Epoxy on the intake side was all that I can recall us ever doing..... I left Crows in 1991 or 1992........Used to go there for some stuff of my own as I had a Stocker in 96-97 and had Bill do a block for me......Haven't seen him since....... |
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Mike Gricco's Smooth Operator was a different car. If anyone knows how to reach Frank, please let me know. |
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Franks' Monte was my old one.- SS/GTA. I sold it when I built the first of two Camaro SS/GTAs That manifold was a GREAT piece and definitely worth something. Ralph got it for me.. I believe I had quit before the Darts got popular. |
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Dave,
Bill is not on Facebook.......I don't know where he is or how to contact him. I have contact with 2 former Crow's co-workers and they have not mentioned where Bill is...... |
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Dave, i know where the camaro is located. I can get you Frank number too. i just asked about the monte today, heard it might be for sale. From your `69 camaro, i stopped down the garage today and took this photo. http://www.dragracers.org/PINKS/badbananalicsm.jpg Bad Banana `69 Camaro. 2009 Pinks all Out E-town http://www.dragracers.org/PINKS/badbanana1.jpg http://www.dragracers.org/PINKS/badbanana2.jpg -Joe G |
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Can you locate the weight re-distribution.
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1312327596 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...h=208675;image |
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Jake,
#1 Modification On the rear back window. It was 'double-thickness' {.500"} glass instead of the standard 1/4" thickness. I believe the weight of the 'special glass' was #52 lbs. instead of #26 lbs. |
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Corrrect , Tommy did the Fink's engines and transmissions. |
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K-Man
In 1970 > SS/EA = 8.00 to 8.49 Wt/HP 1970 Chevelle SS454 'convertible' with T/H Transmission .... #3734 lbs. The 454 was re-factored to 465 HP for Super/Stock .............. 8.03 Wt/HP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1970 Superbird '426 Street Hemi' ............................................ #3837 lbs. The 426 Hemi was re-factored to 465 HP for Super/Stock ..... 8.25 Wt/HP |
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