Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 548047)

"Not asking for the moon!" Oh really!
You only want NHRA (which already has thousands of Stock Eliminator racers with cars built following the NHRA Cassification Guide and Rule Book), to change their long standing class structure, just so you can play in the NHRA "playground", but make up the classes and rules as YOU see fit! I am pretty sure that at least 99% of real NHRA Stockers don`t throw on a set of street tires and cruise to the local Burger Doodle hangout, they are RACE cars, that compete in a RACE class! I didn`t really like having to install a roll bar in my M/S Mustang either, but Stock rules required it, despite the fact that my car was never close to quick enough to need a bar as a bracket car.
You want to race, with no roll bar, without being fast enough to run the index, without spending some money to accomplish those things, sounds like Sportsman Bracket is perfect for you! But then, you also were not going to run NHRA anyhow, you had "other options", so why all the whining anyhow?

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 548067)

Possibly if Butcher or Marshall are not in H lol!

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 548070)

Wow you guys are scare of me!
The level of insults are unprecedented..that is ok.
Not slowing down....and you are going to have to catch me.

Whether you like it or not Pure Stock and Crate Motor are welcomed at all the S/SS associations.
NMCA picked them up last year!
CANAm runs IHRA cars at their NHRA events.
In fact racers are building new Pure Stockers.

NHRA is a great organization.
Even have an NHRA membership and Number
I am not a follower and chose my own direction and quests.

Stuff is brewing guys!
Watch this space!

Btw you want a piece of me.
See you at the TriState S/SS meet in November.

D

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 548038)

Well running 13 ohs most days, high 12's cool days.
K/SA is a 12.65 minimum based on what my car would easily weigh.
Would need a Roll Bar, small gas tank.
Have an 8.5 inch rear...would need to upgrade to a MW or Moser 12 bolt.

Jeff Warren built a good engine but would need better rods.
Then there is the need for new cam, springs, valves.
Because the PCM is limited to 7000rpm that would need replacing.

Using a 4L60E with a Locking YANK converter.
New cam would need more converter.
That would mean a rebuild and a new converter.
Then would need some chassis reinforcement to prevent breaking suspension supports.

Best numbers is a $15,000 investment.
Then would have to buy the expensive gasoline to meet NHRA rules.

What I hate the most is putting in a Roll Bar..
Like the fact I can get in and out of my car with out contortions.
At home can put my street tires on and take it for a drive.
Car has run a 12.68 on a cold day.

All those mods would get the car running low to mid 12s.
Maybe high 11's on a cold day.



I am having fun in Pure Stock..
Can put back on the street with AC and the comforts the car came with.
Owned it from day one..

I agree NHRA does not need more classes.
My argument my car "as is" would best compete as NHRA R/SA.
Only have to add a few pages in the Rule Book.
Not asking for the moon !
Just want to race...!!

D

Originally Posted by Cdncarnut (Post 548086)

I do not understand all this bickering back and forth.
The IHRA is out of class racing. Any other group, which will accept your IHRA legal car is just a bracket racing group.

You do realize that 90% of NHRA class racing is this bracket racing that everyone seems to dislike. Kenny Bugaj must be sitting back and having a good chuckle over this thread.

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 548021)

IHRA F/PS
Performance wise R/SA !
So easy to do!!
Allow my PS to run as a R/SA car.

D

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 548088)

Up there at the top of your post. Yeah, all of that. Everyone racing NHRA Stock Eliminator has already done all of that. But you, you want special exemption so that you can play on their field without making the same effort and expenditure.Yeah, to the people already in the class, you're asking for the moon, and being extremely disrespectful. It really is that damned simple, Dan.

We're currently parked, due to our jobs, and other things, such as my pending divorce. You don't see me on here crying for special exceptions so that we can race, and you won't. I have too much respect for our fellow racers to do that.