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Don't mix the whiners with the scandlemongers. The whiners belong to the new car/old car conversation. Just trying to inject a little humor in this thread.

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Jeff, that kinda hurt. LOL

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Ed, when you kinda hurt, Jeff always recommends an alcohol infused cold beverage to relieve the pain... :)

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Sometimes this website is "The National Enquirer" of drag racing

LMAO

Ron

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x2

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I did not stage in the semi's. Broke the output shaft in my trans. They wouldnt let me push it in. Has to be forward motion under power. Nobody gets the RU money,points or contingencies.

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IMHO

That is a dumb rule -- you were the runner-up - it would have made no difference to any one - wait that might not be true on here...

LMAO again

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That puts the heat right back on Charlie. He tried to get away from it but the truth came out.

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That explanation of no burnout deal makes sense,I believe if I had been in that situation of championship contender,would have informed officials so reason for odd race would have been known,but could be hindsight is 20/20 deal.

From what I have always understood running off ladder,Ken having bye would have to stage and break beams under his cars power as he said,for him to advance to finals,then the other pair of cars would race and winner of that round would advance to final and they would have to stage and break beams under there own power for the win,if they could'nt there would not be a winner or runner up,just semifinalist.

Ken I'm guessing you got quarter final money?

I saw Scott Stillings go out @ Mt. Park pro am years ago when his car would'nt start for bye run,so he could'nt acvance to next round.

Mike Taylor 3601

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Jeff recommends that for many things. LOL

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We all no they can't put anything on the internet that's not true.

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Throwing of rounds has always gone on, I have a picture of Joe Scott Holding a check and an IHRA Ironman for a race he threw in Tulsa OK, the year 1994, yes he got RU, left with a lot of money and the trophy. The good thing was that person didn't win the points.


Herb Jr

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Larry had nothing to do with this post.

Patsy

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Yep, same thing happened to me in the semis at Gainesville with a bye into the final. Twisted the clutch hub in the quarters. The car stopped moving 10 feet from the starting line when it hit the sticky. My car, Jimmy Bridges driving in SS/L

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Charles, Charley, Chuck........... Comments, concerns, questions? I do believe an apology is in order to all for men that you questioned their character and ethics.

Stay Classy Mr. Downing
Tommy Gaynor

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In Vegas, Etter broke before the semis and couldn't stage for the semis, not the final. That's why no runner up money because he technically didn't win the semis and make it to the final.

In Salt Lake, Lambeck ran fine in the semis winning the round and earning his way into the final round where he would collect runner up money whether he showed up or not. These are apples and oranges scenarios.

I only bring this up because there's an awful lot of "I told you so" going on from the Lamb crowd where nothing has really been proven either way other than yet another plausible scenario.

If it was me and I was broken but the car would still move, I'd stage that sucker and hope he went red. Any way you slice it, there was some type of arrangement made before the final round between Lambeck and Lamb. Only a couple of people will probably ever know if it was nefarious or innocent.

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I'm with you on that. I'd have done a light burnout, staged and hoped the other guy went red.

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Exactly what Racin Mason said. I don't claim to know what went on I just know what appeared to have happened, and based my decision about the run with Lambeck on what the DRC author wrote. Yall are just as guilty as me when someone comes up here claiming to know the deal everyone jumps on that band wagon demanding an apology from Downey. How can someone say they know the deal, because they were told so. Yeah right, there's only 2 people that know the real deal.

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Anybody bothered to ask Mr. Lambeck about it, before bad mouthing him?

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Ed , Doug would normally answer the question but just did not hear it. Reason: water in his ears!!!!

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Larry... for inquiring minds...you can give him a call at (818) 772-0200 and ask him!

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Man they are in a tangled up mess!

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True Mickey, but the outcome will be the same!

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Evidently, there are a lot of them, too. And they apparently don't even know how it happened. :cool:

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Some one ask Phil? He can untangle them.

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All this was worth it just to get rid of the 1320 ***.

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I sent a link to this thread to Don Higgins. He found parts of it very amusing.....;-)

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ditto...

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Really?

We now know Doug's car was wounded. What if it was the transmission or converter or valve springs???

Would you chance blowing up a high dollar 427 to look good?

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If my car was wounded I don't think I would have went back to stage, much less drove it down the track.

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Really?

I think you should maybe read a few pages back in the thread explaining why he showed up.

lets just say (as I don't know AND either do you) that he had cooked 3rd in his transmission and was slipping in drive?
Or had a spring that lost a bunch of seat pressure? Ok at 4000rpm but not 7500

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Was he in contention for the championship in Stock? Just because a couple of people, in a lack of judgement, brought up old news not pertaining to this thread, doesn't mean it is relevant to the thread. What happened with Don and Charlie had no bearing on how the World Championship was decided. What happened between them is none of our business. The fact remains, that regardless of the BS stories circulating, somebody laid down and it decided a points battle. The video I watched was less than convincing. A cheese champion is what we have for 2013. They can talk all their stuff about what happened, but in truth, it was a case of laying down to help a guy. Now that this has set a precedent, if a Div 3 racer has been out early and had done well, maybe we should lay down for him as this seems acceptable? Cheese Champions I say.

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Yeah. We tried that once. I think the bill was close to $7K, and it put us way behind on our development curve. For all intents and purposes, destroying that engine pretty much killed almost all of that year. We tried to crank out a replacement real quick, twice, only to have a lot of problems we should not have had.

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Almost 66,000 hits ago,this thread was started about LAS VEGAS.

As Alan Reinhart always says,this is a right place and right time kind of sport.

In the last two years of racing,I have not had three people redlight against me,so I was curious as to how somebody could get so lucky as to have 3 redlights in a row (two of them rolled the beams)into a bye run to seal the World Championship in Stock.

Then,on top of that,a win in Super Stock on a bye run.

With luck this good,I would have left the race track as quickly as possible and headed to the Strip.

Much more money to be won at the tables or slot machines than messing with Drag Racing,that is for sure.

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Steve,

You are absolutely correct about lots of BS stories floating around.

So why are you trying to help propagate one? I don't think you see the irony in your comments.
Do you have irrevocable proof that someone laid down?
Just to be fair; what I have stated is just my opinion based mostly on what I have read on this thread. I don't have all the facts and either do you.
90% of this thread is conjecture.

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Yeah I had read that. I just I don't think I would have drove my car like that. As a matter I know I wouldn't have same thing happened to me last year and I didn't go back for the final. Not worth taking the chance of doing more damage than may have already been done. Like I have already said only a few people know what happened so everything in this thread is speculation.I have my opinion and you have yours, its all good.

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You're right!

The "Silence of the Lamb's" is killing me LOL

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It looks like the Lambs are still racing and you morons are still whinning.
Some of you internet tough guys should go to pomona and talk to Justin and Doug i'm sure there all there.

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perception, and reality.....

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Bill, I know that this stinks like nobodies constitutional. I know better than a stinky port a john at the track, that this was a stinky lay down deal. I have watched Lambeck over the years and what he did was not like anything that I have seen before from him. If his car was hurt so bad that he couldn't make a pass or even do a burnout, then why bother? Disregard any BS that he forgot to flip a switch or whatever. If you go up and don't burn the the tires, then Lamb should know that something is not right. This was a pre arranged deal. If not, then why did Lamb wait on his every move? Reminds me of B movies, lots of bad acting and monsters always show up in the plot line. Drew could have been the Champ had somebody laid down along the way. Nobody did and he finished second. Charlie wasn't a factor at this point. To bring up some stuff that happened months ago, between a Stocker and a SC'er was, at best, bush league. To think, that we have to stoop so low and comment on that situation (you know who you are), that had nothing to do with final points, is disturbing. Lamb is the Champ. Drew is the runner up. It is the way that it is. Like it or not. Having blockers is one thing. Throwing a round as a multi time champion is another thing that just doesn't add up. There are just better ways to do this without drawing attention to yourself and drawing the ire of your competitors.