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Dwight Southerland 01-10-2013 05:46 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 364663)
They ARE 301 alright...

Yes. I see now.

Dave Casey 01-11-2013 04:11 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
Billy, if the car needs any glass related items let me know. I know you are doing this on your own, but thought I would offer.

Dave

Billy Nees 01-11-2013 06:05 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
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James, Dave and everybody else that has offered help and stuff, thanks. If I get jammed up I'll definitely let you know!
I got my heads done today thanks to my old buddy Al Grabinski who lets me use his shop to do my stuff. Also for letting me dig through his garbage for stuff like valve springs retainers and rocker studs that he won't reuse on his race boat motors.
Extra special bonus points to the first person who can tell me which holes in the 301 head are intake ports (Yac can't play).

Don Himes 01-11-2013 07:19 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
Don't forget Neil and Rick! They can't play either!

Rich Biebel 01-11-2013 07:19 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
2 rectangular holes are intake ports and are siamesed and each feeds 2 cylinders...

I worked on them a lot when they were new but can't recall ever seeing those puny ports....

I did replace one brand new block in a car exactly like yours for a porous casting....It leaked water right thru the casting on the drivers side....

I was given a fitted block.....block with pistons/rings.......

Some if I recall right had full size Q-jets but the secondarys were not there...
Then the Dual jet version came along...

Now keep in mind this is all vague memories form the late '70's

The 301 was pretty snappy in a GP but ran out of snap pretty quickly....LOL
The 260 Olds V8 was a total dog.....
I am guessing they had the Metric 200 transmisions and the steep first gear is where the "snap" came from.......
Pinging was a serious issue with these cars....GM was really producing some terrible cars back then and I worked on them everyday in a Pontiac-Jeep-Subaru dealership....

Rick Unterseh 01-11-2013 07:25 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
I know,,, I know,,,, I know......
My hand is raised.... waving my hand !!!!!

Pick me... Pick me !!!!!

Not fair Don.... he didn't say I couldn't play initially

Mike Carr 01-12-2013 11:35 AM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 364843)
2 The 260 Olds V8 was a total dog.....

Rich, not sure what year(s) you are referring to, but I can vouch for the 260 being a dog. My first street car was a 1979 Olds Cutlass. 260 V8 2bbl (I think it was rated 90 hp or something). It was the first car I raced, won a round in, and won a race in, in 2000. 3,570 pounds, with me, and all the stuff out (spare tire, jack, toolbox, etc). Best ET was 18.59 @ 72 mph (a few thousandths under the HF/SA Index). Started out running mid 19's. Slow, but won a LOT of rounds my rookie year that season. Was always racing against 13-15 second newer cars, so became good practice for my later career in FWD Stockers. Played with it, changing little stuff, taking weight out, air cleaner and base, etc (when you opened the hood, looked like a S/S car, nothing on top). Was kind of fun, doing little stuff and getting it to run a second quicker than when I started....guess it was my first taste of "Class Racing". But, as Mr Nees and Mr Yacavone once said--"The first few tenths are the easiest". LOL.

Jack Matyas 01-12-2013 12:20 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 364823)
James, Dave and everybody else that has offered help and stuff, thanks. If I get jammed up I'll definitely let you know!
I got my heads done today thanks to my old buddy Al Grabinski who lets me use his shop to do my stuff. Also for letting me dig through his garbage for stuff like valve springs retainers and rocker studs that he won't reuse on his race boat motors.
Extra special bonus points to the first person who can tell me which holes in the 301 head are intake ports (Yac can't play).

Billy - those heads aren't finished yet - maybe you'd like to park them out behind my shop so they can ferment awhile .......just like fine wine ! ! !

The last time you had a perfectly stock set of heads it didn't turn out so well - haven't you learned your lesson ?

Billy Nees 01-12-2013 12:55 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 364928)
The last time you had a perfectly stock set of heads it didn't turn out so well - haven't you learned your lesson ?

Trust me Jack, they're "stocker" heads. The only thing that I would improve on would be aftermarket valves but they're not in the budget. The stock 301 intake valves are pretty nice to begin with and the exhaust port is WAAY better than the intake so the exhaust valve won't help much.

John Leichtamer Jr 01-12-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Under the index for under a grand!
 
4-speed that thing.

Hammer


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