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bob george 02-25-2014 04:39 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 421963)
Thankyou for that Bob!

I have been informed through emails, that the Bolland & McCollum Dart has not been located to date, but is not mine due to mods that were done to it by subsequent owners, that are not done to mine.

Another off the ever shrinking list of "Could be, Maybe's"

liteweight


McCollum had a few early mopars both wedge and hemi.He raced a 66 Coronet hemi call the Grim Reaper before he bought the Dart.

Liteweight 02-25-2014 01:33 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 422040)

So, I can make out Grotheers BO in th background. Anyone care to ID the Darts?

liteweight

Liteweight 02-27-2014 01:33 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I might have got a break here. Don Moats forwarded me a link to Bob Snyders race pictures. There are literally thousands of them,alot being Funny Cars, but I found something of particular interest in the background of one of them. The picture was taken @ New York National Speedway in 68 durring the Super Stock Nationals.

http://bobsnyderdragphotos.smugmug.c...V5Bhj&lb=1&s=L

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psbdf939f2.jpg

On the return road there is a silver Hemi Dart with a black hood ( early Hurst Darts went to their owners sans hood. It was shipped to them @ a later date.)You will notice a dent in the right quarter panel. My car is a early car & there was a dent repaired in the exact same area this one is. It's a strange kind of hit, looking like something fell on it.
I had never saw this dart before, forwarded the link to Mark Janaky & he recognized it right away as the Manhatten Speed Shop Hemi Dart. There aren't alot of pictures out there, only a couple in black & white. This is the first one he's seen of it in color. It's the same car due to decal placements. AND, it sure has strong possibilities as being my car.
Check it out:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5e6a00ad.jpg

Here's a picture taken in early 80's with the paint stripped to bare metal. Notice the bondo. Inside the trunk is very evident exactly where the damage was

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...manMay1985.jpg

So, this is just a current update for all you faithfull followers of this very long thread.

****AT THIS TIME I WILL NOT CONFIRM THIS IS THE SAME CAR AS THE MANHATTEN DART*******.

I will be looking into it really good tho. Phone bill is gonna get a **** kickin' shorly.

liteweight

bigsixman 02-27-2014 01:43 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I hope that this sheds some light on your car Daryl and maybe you have found it.

Liteweight 02-27-2014 03:27 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
The Manhatten Dart has been on the missing list, & has been previously been only a remote possibility for me due to the journalists remark of it being a SS/B Hemi Dart, not a SS/BA Dart. I've said this many times here before that my car has NEVER had a stick OR a clutch pedal in it, EVER. With the similarities of that silver car & mine, specially the weird damage, leads me to believe that the journalist F'ed up when that article went to print.
I'll be looking for contact info for Manhatten Speed Shop & owner/s.
Did they own the Dart or sponsor it?
Paul Ceasrine posted awhile back they also owned or sponsored a Vega in 72? I'm thinking maybe Pro Stock?

Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated
thanx

liteweight

duster 02-27-2014 04:18 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
That is some super detective work Lightweight, with real evidence. People around the globe are awaiting this one, I know I am. Fingers crossed it all falls into place for you.

a990hemi 02-27-2014 04:48 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I wonder about your car and this detective thread every day of my life and so hope that something decisive will finally happen for you Daryl.

Liteweight 02-27-2014 05:25 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
thanx guys!!.
This car has been a real PITA to locate it's background for sure. If it weren't for the internet, I'd be hooped for sure. There have been hundreds of hours spent by myself on this deal, not counting everyone else who has contributed to this, & I truely appreciate everyone hanging in there with me.
Alot of people would of given up, but, because of the circumstances surrounding this car I neededto set it's history correct, because I'm of the belief that passing off a car as something it's not does alot more harm to it.
When I was trying to document the Landy stick car back in the 90's, it took me a year & a half before Dick signed it off as his. I thought at that time it was very difficult because there wasn't the internet to find info & pictures. I had to go the route of locating paperback for that one. In todays world that car woulda been a cake walk.

Like I said in a previous post, this isn't a for sure deal yet, but it is the most promising it has been for a very long time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

liteweight

mopar68 02-27-2014 05:45 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 422397)
On the return road there is a silver Hemi Dart with a black hood ( early Hurst Darts went to their owners sans hood. It was shipped to them @ a later date.)You will notice a dent in the right quarter panel. My car is a early car & there was a dent repaired in the exact same area this one is. It's a strange kind of hit, looking like something fell on it.
I had never saw this dart before, forwarded the link to Mark Janaky & he recognized it right away as the Manhatten Speed Shop Hemi Dart. There aren't alot of pictures out there, only a couple in black & white. This is the first one he's seen of it in color. It's the same car due to decal placements. AND, it sure has strong possibilities as being my car.

Here's a cropped and enlarged view:

http://112.imagebam.com/download/Ysi...p-enlarged.jpg

M68

mopar68 02-27-2014 05:53 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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