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I will see you in Farmington as I am bringing one of the Sox and Martin 68 Barracudas. If anyone is interested it is for sale for $250K. It was originally one of the Billy Stepp cars and owned a couple of times by S&M.

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I was at Mecum and that car is the Eddie Smith car that was bought at Mr, Norms then sold to Max Hurley. I believe Max raced it with a 3-speed. I know that Reed Koeppe in Nebraska found it then sold it after I bought the Max Hurley 71 Super Stock Demon that I sold to buy my Hemi Dart. Also at Mecum the first Billy Stepp car bid to 100K and did not meet reserve.

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hey Craig
I'm leaving for that show Thursday May 28, & will be driving by Grand Forks around noon. What say you we meet for lunch at a good burger joint. Is there a Hardee's in Forks anymore? we don't have any of those joints up here in Manitoba & I try to get at least one double cheese & curly fries in per US visit.
Hey, I might even be convinced to unload my car & take a certain good ol boy Bowtie guy for a hoot & holler ride if the weather & roads are good. You never know, I might be able to convince you to come over to the dark side. It'll be a ride you won't soon forget, me's thinkin.

liteweight

ps Don's riding shotgun with me for the weekend.

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Daryl: Is it Tuesday May 28th or Thursday May 30th that you are coming through GFKS? On Tuesday the 28th I have a county board meeting, but on Thursday May 30th I have clear day with no meetings. The Hardees on Columbia Road is still open and I would enjoy a lunch with you and Don. I think we can find a place to unload that dart too! Next year I hope my 67 camaro project car will be done and I will bring it up to the Garden City Mall show in Wpg and I will return the favor, I will furnish the Depends!!! Lets stay in touch on your travel times.

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Craig
my bad, too many late nights. Yup, your right it's Thursday May 30. Should be leaving 8:00-9:00 am & depending on the border patrol. We'll be in Forks by noon. Bring some pictures of that car.

liteweight

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Bob
So you want to install a Hemi in a A body using factory mounts?????. Your a brave man Hope you have alot of patience, specially if your using box headers (Hooker/TTI etc.). If you want to use an external oil pickup system, stay with a single line, because a dual line is ALMOST not doable without doing alot of cutting OR fabricating of mounts, & creating a new pickup port in the pump body because the "as delivered" ports will now allow for that second line.
As your probably aware Hurst/Chrysler utized the welded steel mounts on the K member from Hemi B Bodies to build the original Hemi A cars.The rubber insulators were also used.
The tubes they used were Hooker 2" & were delivered with a street hemi pan. This combination worked as is but did not allow for the oiling required for a high winding Hemi. So, the cutting started on both the drivers side mount & steering box mount.
Now getting back on track to your install, the easiest will no doubt be an engine plate with a torque restrictor to limit fore & aft. movement.This will allow for dual external oiling & lots of header clearance
If your interested in this next option, pm me & I'll give you the name/number of a buddy who fabricates 2 different Hemi A body K members as complete bolt in kits utilizing original style mounts, original K members & suspension . The first one he designed a few years back that locates the engine a little lower than stock, which allows for much needed trans tunnel/ header clearance. This K member will accomodate box headers. You'll have to ask him about 2 1/8" tho. I believe it'll only work with a single feed external oil system.
The other K member he has available is a direct replacement of the originals, location wise. I know that because he borrowed my original to build his jig.
My Hemi install is a little unique as I'm using an unmodified original style K member with custom built headers, custom fabbed engine mount made from DOM 1 3/4" tubing & a modified Milodon dual oiling system. MANY, MANY hours were spent making this work & all clearances for everything in that area are minimal. 1/16" is the difference of something fitting or interfering.
This is the passenger side mount
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...HPIM0988-1.jpg

This is the drivers side mount
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...HPIM0982-1.jpg

If you closely you can see the new oil location at the bottom of the pump. The original 2 rear pickup locations remain plugged
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...HPIM0984-1.jpg
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...HPIM0986-1.jpg

This is the almost ready to install assembly. Tubes are custom made . 2 1/8" primaries, 4" collectors. Passenger side is 2 piece, Drivers side is 5 piece. I need to remove both torsion bars, both tie rod assemblies, center link, have no starter or even the drain plg in the block to get them in. I can't even have the header gasket glued to the head for install, because the thickness of that gasket won't allow #1 tube to go in, even with the engine lifted. The gasket needs to be slipped in after the headers installed.
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psb60967d7.jpg

have I scared you yet? They're not all this tight. I sold Dave McDade an original unmodified Hemi A Body K member & he installed it with the motor attached from the bottom. He dropped the body over the assembly. Valve covers were off tho. I don't believe he has an external oil system & I think his tubes are 2". Feel free to ask whatever you need to get that elfunt installed, & I'll do what I can to help you out.

liteweight

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Thanks Daryl:
That sure looks like a nice setup you have there.
My motor is a pump gas motor with only 580 lift cam and 10:1 compression, built to be a daily driver if I so choose, 550 hp 516 tq. Internal oiling and stock valve train, with stock type chrome valve covers. I am doing the shock tower mod to give me a little more room if I decide to change heads and valve train. I'm pretty sure I will be putting it in from the bottom as I have spoken to quite a few who have done it that way and say its a lot easier. The pics you posted help a lot, thanks. I will be taking my car to my chassis guy in a couple weeks once I make a decision on what bell housing to use, my car is a stick car.

I guess one question, what torsion bars are running.

Is your k member guys name Denny?

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Those kind of numbers will more than knock your socks off in that car & be street friendly too.. You'll enjoy it, specially rowin' gears doing it..
You won't regret doing the shock tower mod.
You'll probably want to put a scattershield on it for your toes sake, a 2 piece with access from the bottom is preferable. Depending on engine location, will dictate whether you"ll have to modify the firewall to floorpan flange & you may want to drill holes in the firewall for the top 2 bellhousing retaining bolts, then install those snap in plugs.

I'm currently running the small block bars in my car. I tried the 6 cyl. ones, but didn't like them because of excessive front end rise, & they were wound too tight for my comfort, street driving it.

My K member connection is Al in WI.

liteweight

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After many,many hours of cheet & abuse that it has provided for me, it's finally alive.
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps66e75240.jpg

When it barked to life, the hair on my arms stood at attention. To describe what it sounds like is best done through a quotation my buddy yelled @ me last night while it was warming up. "That ain't no 10 sec. motor."
I just smiled
I tend to agree with him.
I love it when a plan comes together

Giddyup............................

liteweight

ps. the build tour will continue.


http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/HPIM0060.jpg

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Ok "Hannibal",requesting audio/video asap.

Share the experience with the rest of us.

I have a mop and bucket to clean up the expected drool.