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HandOverFist 12-23-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MICROMACHINE72 (Post 413604)
GREAT THREAD! look forward to reading more. Just wondering, what was the record for I/S in those days? High 12's?? My old man has many trophy's from New York National back in the day, (I think is was AHRA) he won the summer-nationals in 1972, 69 Chevelle SS-396/375 stick car high 11's. Not sure what class he ran, he can't remember! He said thought it was formula stock or something?? Anyway, and just wondering as I don't know much about stock class racing, but how can a 69 Chevelle run a 427? I thought the 396 was the largest BBC available in a factory car? Was it a special option over the counter not factory installed?? Good luck on your build and Merry Christmas!

Must have been...it's listed in the Stock Classification guide for 1969 Chevelle.

Alan Nyhus 12-23-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MICROMACHINE72 (Post 413604)
....... I don't know much about stock class racing, but how can a 69 Chevelle run a 427? I thought the 396 was the largest BBC available in a factory car? Was it a special option over the counter not factory installed?? Good luck on your build and Merry Christmas!

The '69 427-425 Chevelle was COPO 9562. Like their COPO '69 Camaro cousins, they were outwardly plain Jane with the exception of the hoods. The COPO Chevelles looked like a regular Malibu, but had the SS hood.

A few years back, I saw the remains of a '69 COPO 9562 in a small town outside Kansas City.

Andy Friar 05-24-2014 08:53 AM

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Dad and I got our Harleys back together and sold as well as Dad's 67 Olds cruiser, together and sold. Now back to the race car with the other projects out of the way and the cash to fund this one. Yanked the front end to be able to clean it all up, easier to install solid body mounts and to install a torque limiting link setup on the motor. I cut out the old driver's side floor pan and I just about have the new piece from AMD fitted to the hole. Gonna start burning it in this week. Look at the Muncie case ear tab reinforcements that Jim made back in the early 70's, pretty cool stuff. Just a quick check, is our vintage overflow can still legal??

Greg Barsamian 05-25-2014 06:47 AM

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Andy, the Muncie ear tabs are "Spot-on"
The patina of "catch can" fits the time-frame, and looks Way-Kool!

Keep the pic's and stories coming.

Andy Friar 06-28-2014 09:26 AM

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The forward progress continues. We lifted the body off the frame to swap out the original, wasted, body mounts. We went with a set of hard anodized aluminum mounts from ABC Performance. With the body up we prepped and painted the 'top' of the cage and fixed a torched in hole on the rear passenger frame rail, right where it kicks inboard to clear the wheels. With the body down on the new mounts I set about burning in the new driver's side floor pan. I finished fully welding it all last night and I am going back it today with a grinder to prep for primer/paint.

Andy Friar 06-28-2014 09:31 AM

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I missed a few pics on my last reply....

Andy Friar 08-21-2014 10:03 PM

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I haven't post a reply on here in a while, but I assure you guys and gals that I have bustin' my tail on this crusty ol hot rod. Got the floor pan fix finished, welds ground, surface rust converter, raw metal primer and multiple coats of chassis satin black.

Underneath of the car cleaned up. Old nasty stick welded in super heavy duty tubes cut off the frame, many boxes of sanding discs and wire wheels later, and a bunch of rust converter on it too. Then multiple coats of satin chassis black.

Engine torque limiting strap build and in place. Dad has been working on a parallel path with the motor. The Turbo 292 heads have a 68cc combustion chamber. Since we are going to run this in a Stock legal configuration, with a bracket motor to get started, we ordered up a set up 13.0:1 Mahle coated pistons and Manley H-Beam rods. We want this to be a wheels-up beast. The stock crank Dad got from Reichert fit good with .010" under bearings. The block and pistons are back at Reichert's getting fitted up.

While I was at it, I cleaned up the trans crossmember. I also metalworked up the steering column closeout panel that someone took a torch too 40 yrs ago. Out of time and energy for tonight. Working on the car tomorrow night and I hope to post 4 or 5 more pics too. :)

Run to Rund 08-22-2014 10:26 AM

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Thanks for sharing. Great history, and an exciting restoration.

Andy Friar 08-23-2014 06:43 AM

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With the car stripped back to the firewall, it was time to sand the front frame section and the firewall and clean off 45 years of rust, grease, lacquer paint and. Cut off a few 70's era added brackets on the frame and weld up a bunch of not used or previously added holes on the firewall. I welded up a few holes and fixed some dents in the heater box too since I was there.

Onto the seats and belts. I went with Kirkey 18" width drag seats with vinyl covers, and Gforce camlock belts. I bought the kirkey universal seat mounts and then made 2 steel brackets the bolt to the floor and the aluminum brackets. I am 7" taller than my Dad, but we were able to find a seat position that will work for us both, so at anytime the other one could jump in the car and make a pass, with out unbolting or moving the seat around. On the outboard side I used the existing bench seat mounts on the floor. I used some flanged base weld nuts on the 1" sq tubing to bolt the aluminum brackets too. I pie cut the boxed tubing to follow the floor, rather than make it a full weld joint. On the inboard side steel mount, I poked a hole through the newly installed floor patch reinforced it on the bottom side with a 4" sq pc of .125" thick 4130 fully welded to the floor. I made the 'C' shaped clearance cut to clear the large washers and nut that Jim had welded into the car 40 years to mount a driveshaft loop. Rear 1"sq tube mount ties into the floor crossmember and I will just run a large diameter, hardened washer and grade 8 nyloc on it.

We have the new steering wheel, fuel cell, shifter, shifter cover, fuel cell mount kit and bunch of other parts in a UPS/ Fed Ex pile in the house garage. Always more to do....

Charlie A 08-23-2014 10:42 PM

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blasttime 10-05-2014 06:51 PM

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Nice keep at it :)

gsa612 10-05-2014 08:33 PM

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I noticed you posted a pic of the heater box and blower motor (painted),you can delete that and make an alum. plate to cover the hole in the firewall, same with the w/w motor in stock.It saves a bit of weight. gsa612

impstocker 11-27-2014 12:04 PM

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Love the pics on the build. I was wondering since you dropped the frame, is your roll cage welded to the frame? , or the floor? My Impala my roll bar is through the floor into the frame. I did this for strength plus the crossmember where the upper control arms are attached to is the weak link in theses Impalas, they tend to pull out . I used a cross brace from the roll bar to strengthen this area. I guess Chevelles don't have this issue. Using the solid body mounts is a good idea. Just wanted to say great job, keep it up.
Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress- Div 1
(rear end went in yesterday)

Andy Friar 11-30-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 448639)
I noticed you posted a pic of the heater box and blower motor (painted),you can delete that and make an alum. plate to cover the hole in the firewall, same with the w/w motor in stock.It saves a bit of weight. gsa612

Good catch and thanks for checking out our build. We are going to plate over the W/W motor hole but decided to keep the blower motor, sans heater core, to be able to get air up the windshield when our racing goes late into the night. Here in humid Michigan, we often bracket race to near midnight and can get a lot of dew and accompanying fog on the windshields.

Andy Friar 11-30-2014 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by impstocker (Post 454039)
Love the pics on the build. I was wondering since you dropped the frame, is your roll cage welded to the frame? , or the floor? My Impala my roll bar is through the floor into the frame. I did this for strength plus the crossmember where the upper control arms are attached to is the weak link in theses Impalas, they tend to pull out . I used a cross brace from the roll bar to strengthen this area. I guess Chevelles don't have this issue. Using the solid body mounts is a good idea. Just wanted to say great job, keep it up.
Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress- Div 1
(rear end went in yesterday)

Thanks Will! Our cage is welded to the frame and to the rear upper suspension crossmember in the back. We only lifted the car 3.5" inches, basically enough the get the mounts swapped and that was the amount were were limited by the cage hitting the floor. The floor was opened up with the tin snips when the cage was put in. I welded those slices closed after we did the body mounts. We are using bolt in stiffeners from Detroit Speed (http://www.detroitspeed.com/1964-197...brace-kit.html) To my knowledge the Chevelles don't have the issue with the crossmember separating from the frame.

Andy Friar 04-03-2015 02:03 PM

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Where all the works go down. Everything we need in here, except a bank vault, to go racing.

Andy Friar 04-03-2015 02:31 PM

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Fuel Cell mounts all done. JAZ 10 gal cell, 2" sq mild steel, 2" mild steel angle and some really poorly made, not bent square Jegs (hence why they were cheap) over the top fuel cell straps. Nothing too crazy, just tried to make it simple and safe. I ran 3/8" bolts through the 2" tubing and through the fore-aft stock fuel tank crossmembers. I added some .125" thick plate 4130 welded on the under the side at all 4 through bolt locations just to be safe. For final assy the cell will be sitting on 1/8" thick rubber to avoid and abrasion/ vibration issues. I am happy with how it came out. Still pressing forward on this project.

Andy Friar 12-19-2015 09:47 PM

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Fuel cell, fuel delivery system & trunk work. Welded up about 15 holes in the trunk. Fully wired the rear of the car and it is now done. Used Eastwood trunk paint to match the turquoise & black splatter it came with. This stuff is water based and needs a clear coat top coat to be durable. Just don't let fluid of any type sit on it, and it will look pretty for a while.

Andy Friar 12-19-2015 10:12 PM

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Inner fender resto. Tin snipped out clutch linkage access hole filled. Unused factory installed holes filled. Dimples & dents hammered out. Torch cut off attachment pads, fixed and replicated to be oem like. De-rusted & cleaned. Self etching primer and some satin chassis black sprayed.

Andy Friar 12-19-2015 10:22 PM

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The rest of the inner fender resto pics.

Alan Nyhus 12-20-2015 08:50 AM

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Looks nice. I like how you did the mounting plate for the filters and pump. Mounting it on rubber vibration isolators is a nice touch :) -Al

impstocker 12-20-2015 10:13 AM

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Nice Build, everything looks great.

Thanks for the idea on clear coating the trunk paint. Your right with that water base stuff comes off to easy.

Looks like your going for a 2016 debut too. I will be racing my 65 Impala this year.
What motor and class are you going to run. ? If you are building a 396 oval post I have some bare 290 castings which are Corvette 427/390 heads., best for that engine.

Will Lamprecht 65 Impala I/SA 2016 debut

Andy Friar 12-21-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus (Post 490857)
Looks nice. I like how you did the mounting plate for the filters and pump. Mounting it on rubber vibration isolators is a nice touch :) -Al



Thanks for the compliment. Sitting on that $8 piece of aluminum is my mortgage payment, figured I would like to make those parts last as long as possible. :)

Andy Friar 12-21-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by impstocker (Post 490863)
Nice Build, everything looks great.

Thanks for the idea on clear coating the trunk paint. Your right with that water base stuff comes off to easy.

Looks like your going for a 2016 debut too. I will be racing my 65 Impala this year.
What motor and class are you going to run. ? If you are building a 396 oval post I have some bare 290 castings which are Corvette 427/390 heads., best for that engine.

Will Lamprecht 65 Impala I/SA 2016 debut


Thanks for the kinds words Will. For the next 2 years or so I will only be running Pro at local tracks here in Michigan. (Milan, Stanton & 131) Got married Sept 14, had to buy a new daily driver this past weekend, and buying a new house in the summer. Ya know, life getting in the way of my racing obsession.

When we do go out on the circuit, I bet we will race the car in H or I, but would be interested in going C too, eventually.


Can't wait to see your car out there hit the strip too.

Andy Friar 12-22-2015 05:44 AM

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Sent parts out to powdercoat. Martin Powdercoating in Perry, MI. I fully recommend them. During my just over 10 yrs with Baker Drivetrain (Harley & Custom bike transmissions, parts, etc) we only used 2 P-coaters that were worth mentioning, Martin and Elite Electro Coaters in Lansing, MI. Martin has onsite media blasting as well. They do a great job at a reasonable price. I have used Elite for multiple personal projects and I would recommend them as well.

Andy Friar 12-22-2015 05:59 AM

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Ended up going with Hoosiers. We have good luck with the set of circle track tires we ran on the rear of this car when we used to hit the cruise nights and woodward. 30 x 9.0 rear D05 compound and 26 x 4.5 front. Mounted them at home, and took the fronts to Belle Tire for balancing as they are too light for our bubble balancer. They did it for free and they have ALWAYS taken care of us. I played amateur hockey for Belle Tire and they spoiled us with the best equipment and gear. Rears we did on our bubble balancer. Drew up a rim screw template in Autocad to attempt to evenly space them out, then poked the holes on the mill.

goinbroke2 12-22-2015 01:44 PM

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Andy, you never tried making a pass with the stockcar tires did you? That was the first "slick" I got when I was a kid with a dual quad 302 in a 83 mustang. Sidestep the clutch at 6500 and roast them through 1-3rd. LOL, what a dumbass I was back then, had a lot of fun and told everybody the motor was so strong it would roast slicks! LOL!

Ahh to be 20 and single again with a good pay check to blow on cars...

Jim Kaekel 12-22-2015 04:11 PM

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I just stumbled upon this. Great build. I love those GM A-bodys. Good luck and hope to see you at the track in the future.

Andy Friar 12-22-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 491079)
Andy, you never tried making a pass with the stockcar tires did you? That was the first "slick" I got when I was a kid with a dual quad 302 in a 83 mustang. Sidestep the clutch at 6500 and roast them through 1-3rd. LOL, what a dumbass I was back then, had a lot of fun and told everybody the motor was so strong it would roast slicks! LOL!

Ahh to be 20 and single again with a good pay check to blow on cars...

Well, I like most of us motorheads have done enough one wheel peel burnouts to kill all the mosquitoes in the county with my first car, a 77 silverado. This Chevelle was fun when it was just mufflers, synchros and M/T pro street tires from being a full race car. Would spin through 2nd on the street, into 3rd and sometimes try tonchanhe lanes going into 4th too. The monster Cam, spool and 40 lb flywheel made it an adventure to say the least.

Andy Friar 12-22-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 491093)
I just stumbled upon this. Great build. I love those GM A-bodys. Good luck and hope to see you at the track in the future.

Thanks Jim. This car and it's story turned me into an A-body junky.

Greg Hill 12-22-2015 11:44 PM

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Andy, I heard you met my son Andrew last week.

Andy Friar 12-23-2015 04:02 PM

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Andy, I heard you met my son Andrew last week.



Yes I did. You should be proud. I look forward to hanging out with him and seeing if he can teach me some stuff at and away from the track about racing.

Greg Hill 12-23-2015 05:14 PM

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Yes I did. You should be proud. I look forward to hanging out with him and seeing if he can teach me some stuff at and away from the track about racing.

I am proud of him. You should come to a points race in 2016. Norwalk is really close.

Andy Friar 12-23-2015 09:23 PM

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I am proud of him. You should come to a points race in 2016. Norwalk is really close.

I think that I just might. Norwalk is in May, that could work.

Alan Roehrich 12-24-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus (Post 413614)
The '69 427-425 Chevelle was COPO 9562. Like their COPO '69 Camaro cousins, they were outwardly plain Jane with the exception of the hoods. The COPO Chevelles looked like a regular Malibu, but had the SS hood.

A few years back, I saw the remains of a '69 COPO 9562 in a small town outside Kansas City.


It should be noted that, according to the GM archives, the COPO 69 Chevelle 427/425 was built only on the two door coupe, and not on the 2 door sedan/300 Deluxe. There was a point in time where you could not run a 300 Deluxe with a 427/425. You could run the 396. NHRA may now allow the 427/425 in the 69 Chevelle 300 Deluxe, but for a long time, they did not.

The 69 Chevelle COPO 9562 was built to allow Chevrolet to have cars in SS/D and SS/DA to complement the COPO 9561/9562 Camaros in the SS/B and SS/C classes.

According to the archives, there were 12 COPO 9562 based codes in all, with different options, all are shown to be sport coupes, no sedans.

9562AA (COPO 9694 disc brake required)
9562BA (COPO 9694 disc brake required)
9562CD
9562CE
9562DD
9562DE
9562EA
9562FA
9694CA
9694CB
9566AA
9566BA

They built approximately 350 cars (compared to some 1200-1250 L-72 equipped COPO 9562 Camaros), with 99 (55 four speed MQ code and 44 TH400 automatic MP code) going to Don Yenko Chevrolet. The KQ code 4.10:1 12 bolt was included, and all were Posi-traction equipped. They also came with the SS hood, standard Malibu interior, Super Sport blackout grille with the Bow Tie, and black rear cove panel.The SS side stripes and NC8 chambered exhaust were options. The various individual codes were option packages that denoted either 14" or 15" tires, standard wheels, SS wheels, or Rally wheels, power disc brakes, special suspensions, and bucket or bench seats.

Andy Friar 12-24-2015 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 491298)
It should be noted that, according to the GM archives, the COPO 69 Chevelle 427/425 was built only on the two door coupe, and not on the 2 door sedan/300 Deluxe. There was a point in time where you could not run a 300 Deluxe with a 427/425. You could run the 396. NHRA may now allow the 427/425 in the 69 Chevelle 300 Deluxe, but for a long time, they did not.

The 69 Chevelle COPO 9562 was built to allow Chevrolet to have cars in SS/D and SS/DA to complement the COPO 9561/9562 Camaros in the SS/B and SS/C classes.

According to the archives, there were 12 COPO 9562 based codes in all, with different options, all are shown to be sport coupes, no sedans.

9562AA (COPO 9694 disc brake required)
9562BA (COPO 9694 disc brake required)
9562CD
9562CE
9562DD
9562DE
9562EA
9562FA
9694CA
9694CB
9566AA
9566BA

They built approximately 350 cars (compared to some 1200-1250 L-72 equipped COPO 9562 Camaros), with 99 (55 four speed MQ code and 44 TH400 automatic MP code) going to Don Yenko Chevrolet. The KQ code 4.10:1 12 bolt was included, and all were Posi-traction equipped. They also came with the SS hood, standard Malibu interior, Super Sport blackout grille with the Bow Tie, and black rear cove panel.The SS side stripes and NC8 chambered exhaust were options. The various individual codes were option packages that denoted either 14" or 15" tires, standard wheels, SS wheels, or Rally wheels, power disc brakes, special suspensions, and bucket or bench seats.

Thanks for wealth of info Alan!

Andy Friar 12-24-2015 11:50 AM

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For the entirety that my Dad raced S/C his number was 3483. From when I was 12 to about 22 yrs old that was his and became our family number for a race car. I was going to apply for 3483A for the Chevelle as a result.

I came into the garage on weirdly cold and humid day in late July and saw this. The partial outline of Jim's old number from the 70's. It was a sign to me, the spirit of Jim shining down. I went home that night, downloaded the NHRA form and requested 3050, Jim's number. I got it, that is now MY number. I hope that I can do it justice.

Andy Friar 12-24-2015 11:53 AM

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Got the car out of the garage in early in August for the time in 2 years. It sits high as have a 2x4 wedged between the sway and diff to act as a jacking point. Gave it the car a good bath and the garage a deep cleaning too. Time to start switching over the shop to assembly mode. Our car has not been painted since 1975; looks pretty good from 20 ft. :)

Alan Roehrich 12-24-2015 12:13 PM

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The car looks good!

Despite the fact that the 69 Camaro Kevin Cradduck and I have campaigned for the last few years with good success is a really good car, my favorite stocker of all time is Harry Vineyard's white 69 Chevelle 427/425 that he campaigned for years in B/SA when he drove, and in A/S with Tucker Parrish driving. I wish I had bought the car when Harry offered it to me when he was buying the 69 Camaro SS/EA that Alan Oakley bought from Eddie Miranian. Not buying that car was a huge mistake.

Andy Friar 12-24-2015 12:20 PM

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We were at the Milan 'Run What Ya Brung' race on Friday Aug 7th. Our friend Dave was pushing us hard to have a debut date and get the car on the track this year, so we could shake out the new car bugs over winter. Looking at the Milan schedule for Test & Tune, he said the last date that might have good weather was Sunday Oct 4th. He then said: "I like we bowling, let's start a bowling night." "Huh?" I said back. Dave: "Well when you are on a bowling league with your friends you don't want to let them down, so every week, whether you want to or not, you go to league night. We should have a 'bowling' night where everyone has to be there to work on the race car."

What a great and generous idea Dave had and our 'Bowling Night' was born on Tuesdays. We provided dinner and drinks, and then we wrenched. One night a week turned in to 4 or 5 nights a week. With friends driving 30 mins or more to come wrench on OUR car. Over the next couple of months we got help from:

Dave Gerald (Family Friend, Bill's Nephew)
Bill Gerald (my Dad's best friend since 1971 or 72
Pete Rosol (Co-worker of me and Dad)
Debbie Moore (Dad's Fiance)
Derrick Hilliker (Co-worker of me and Dad)
Chris Carson (Co-worker of me and Dad)
Jessica Jeffery-Friar (My wife)

Thanks to all of them, it really started picking up speed towards a track day.


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